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post 4 Aug 2014, 08:06
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QUOTE(cdadan @ 3 Aug 2014, 22:43)
Faceti misto aiurea. Motorasul ala are turbina, lucru care va debusoleaza, probabil.
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Poate sa aiba si 3 turbine, degeaba, ce conteaza sunt 135 NM si 90 de cai, ceea ce e putin. Ca are cuplu jos, e una, dar pana la "160 km/h cu masina plina si mai e loc", e cale lunga.

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post 4 Aug 2014, 09:04
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Ziceai ca troaca ta, desi are doar 8 cai in plus, alearga cu 200.


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post 4 Aug 2014, 09:11
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QUOTE(Black5gram @ 3 Aug 2014, 16:48)
Problema a fost nu s-o fac sa traga, ci s-o tin in frau.
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normal, la ce lipsa de frana de motor are. radmasa.gif


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post 4 Aug 2014, 09:20
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pe vremuri se mergea cu frana de mana trasa la 2-3 dinti in situatii d-astea


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post 4 Aug 2014, 09:27
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QUOTE(cdadan @ 4 Aug 2014, 10:04)
Ziceai ca troaca ta, desi are doar 8 cai in plus, alearga cu 200.
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Si tu ziceai ca ai simtul umorului.


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post 4 Aug 2014, 09:59
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Argoane, eu abia astept sa pui mana pe-un 1.2 tCe radmasa.gif


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post 4 Aug 2014, 10:03
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Am pus, e unul la bloc, si ma tot ating de el cand intru in scara. De condus nu am avut 'onoarea', dar la mai tare decat 1.8T de la VAG n'are cum sa fie, doar mai lesinat.

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post 4 Aug 2014, 11:02
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Fostul meu Logan de 1,6MPI prindea 160km/h pe bord fara probleme chiar daca era incarcata. Porcbagaj pe plafon nu am pus niciodata.
De ce nu ar putea si Captura prinde 160?


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post 4 Aug 2014, 11:07
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prinde si capcur, argon e doar gelos...


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post 4 Aug 2014, 12:07
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Una e sa prinda, alta e sa zboare pe drumuri de 'alpine' cu 160 incarcat la maxim cu clima pornita. La Logan 1.6 8v cu aceul pornit si plin, trebuia sa-i dai a treia chiar si pe autostrada daca prindeai o panta, cum sunt urcusurile pe A3 langa Cluj.

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post 4 Aug 2014, 12:17
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QUOTE(argon @ 4 Aug 2014, 09:06)
Poate sa aiba si 3 turbine, degeaba, ce conteaza sunt 135 NM si 90 de cai, ceea ce e putin.
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Zice unul cu 127 nm si 98 cai smile.gif ... mah ... ma lasi .. nu stiu de ce inclin sa cred ca nu prea stai langa Captur 0.9 tce cu masina ta cu embleme 2.0 16v pe usi biggrin.gif


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post 4 Aug 2014, 12:19
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Nu stau langa, stau prin fata asa...185 km/h e mai mult decat 171 la viteza maxima, iar 0-100 e cu 0.6 sec mai rapida a mea. Daca tot ai dat-o in versurusi.


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post 4 Aug 2014, 12:21
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Unde mai pui c-are si sofer antrenat&scolit pe giratoriile metropolei Deva! rolleyes.gif


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post 4 Aug 2014, 12:25
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Argoane taci din gura ca iar esti de bula ..

Captur este mai lent decat emeblata ta de 2 litrii cu 0.2 sec. 0-100 km/h ..

Cum martoaga ta are deja o anumita uzura ... esti mancat smile.gif

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post 4 Aug 2014, 12:39
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Pai de-aia am amestecator de mamaliga intre scaune, sa-l folosesc ca sa obtin ce vreau de la masina.
Sa fii tu sanatos de cate ori am bagat pana la limitare in dansa.
Din cate am observat eu, masinile cu motoare turbo urca mult mai bine decat suratele lor aspirate de aceeasi putere. Acu si senzatia de zbor o fi fost personala.
La mine taraboanta fumacioasa TDI de 105CP, incarcata cu 5 persoane si bagaje, se taraste pe Valea Prahovei.

Renou argonesc nu se uzeaza, devine mai performant in timp.

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post 4 Aug 2014, 13:11
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Dac-ai ajuns in limitare, nu te-ai folosit eficient de amestecator! wink.gif


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post 4 Aug 2014, 13:40
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Argoane, macane rau ! Acel 1.6 8v nu era in toate mintile. 16v -ul meu acceleaza in reluare in a 5-a pe autobanda catte Cluuuuuj, iar xel de 90 cp, daca-l prinzi la minim 140 tine viteza cu 4 persoane fara sa pui pedala in podea 100%.

Sa fim cinstiti, cu șcătula aia pe plafon, nu mai.prindea 171 Capuru' decat la vale.


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post 4 Aug 2014, 13:44
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De 160 era vorba aici. 160 pe bord o fi cam 150 in realitate. Mare smecherie!
200 prinde doar argon, cu bolidul lui.

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post 4 Aug 2014, 17:06
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Eu reusesc doar 192 pe GPS sleep.gif


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Cotetz! Nu se compara cu a lui argon...


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QUOTE(cdadan @ 4 Aug 2014, 09:32)
Si cum ai ajuns la aceasta minunata concluzie? Explica, sa priceapa si je.
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Pai simplu: 171 viteza maxima, masina incarcata, portbagaj deasupra (sa nu ne zici ca asta imbunatateste Cx-ul). Unde sufletu' mai avea viata in el motorasul ala sa traga in forta peste 160?

Sau asa se determina viteza maxima constructiva, cu sapte papornite, porc si un Thule plin de praz?


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post 4 Aug 2014, 21:28
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Pai incarcarea nu prea are treaba cu mersul la viteza constanta, daca nu pune masina in pozitie de decolare, sa-i altereze semnificativ aerodinamica. Incarcarea te incurca la demaraj si la urcare. Ramane in discutie cutia aia, insa totusi are o forma, nu cred sa ia mai mult de 10 din vmax, care oricum e relativ modesta.


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Intr-o brosura spune asa http://www.captur.renault.co.uk/J87/V2/en_...mag/pdf/mag.pdf

CDa aerodynamics Captur 0,9TCe = 0,82
CDa aerodynamics Captur 1,2TCe EDC = 0,79
CDa aerodynamics Captur 1,5DCI = 0,79

De remarcat diferenta intre motoare (probabil ca 1,2TCe e mai greu si e botul mai lasat)

Deci noi, cei cu Captur, avem coeficientul aerodinamic al unui frigider pe roti. Asta am realizat-o prin cresterea exponentiala a consumului la peste 90Km/h cand aerodinamicitatea isi spune cuvantul.


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peste 2200 m, sute de curbe (ace de par)... Ce pot sa va spun? Din nou, Captur a fost la superlativ. In foarte putine curbe a trebuit sa schim din a 2-a in prima
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mai taie din ele, da-le dracu'

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QUOTE(partner @ 4 Aug 2014, 21:34)
Deci noi, cei cu Captur, avem coeficientul aerodinamic al unui frigider pe roti. Asta am realizat-o prin cresterea exponentiala a consumului la peste 90Km/h cand aerodinamicitatea isi spune cuvantul.
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deosebit rau capturul asta, de parca la 70 sau mai jos merge prin vid


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post 4 Aug 2014, 23:01
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Daca a inteles cineva ce-a vrut sa zica tovarasul asta, dau o bere pentru traducere.


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Sa nu facem confuzie: valoarea data de mine mai sus este CdA = coeficientul aerodinamic(Cx) X suprafata frontala

Suprafata frontala = Inaltimea X Latimea x 0,84

Dupa calculele mele Cx la Captur este de cam 0,33

http://ecomodder.com/wiki/index.php/Vehicl...nt_of_Drag_List
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QUOTE(cdadan @ 4 Aug 2014, 09:04)
Ziceai ca troaca ta, desi are doar 8 cai in plus, alearga cu 200.
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Si tu ziceai ca ai simtul umorului.
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are, dar tu esti in cu totul alta galaxie fata de el.


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Problema-i ca nu sunt Captururi sehas deocamdata. Stai numa' stai ! Aha ! Sa-si cumpere argon sehaș un Captur, de preferat d-ăsta umblat pe autostrăzi europene radmasa.gif că vedeți voi radmasa.gif

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Atunci o sa prinda si capturu' 190 ...


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QUOTE(partner @ 5 Aug 2014, 01:21)
Sa nu facem confuzie: valoarea data de mine mai sus este CdA = coeficientul aerodinamic(Cx) X suprafata frontala

Suprafata frontala = Inaltimea X Latimea x 0,84

Dupa calculele mele Cx  la Captur este de cam 0,33

http://ecomodder.com/wiki/index.php/Vehicl...nt_of_Drag_List
http://www.aeropuertosarg.com.ar/losforos/...c=139.1250;wap2
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vezi ca sunt suv-uri cu 0,3
suv-uri cu suprafata frontala, garda la sol si inaltime mai mare (nu mai zic de elemente lipsa care sa scada rezistenta la inaintare, gen deflectoare sau carenaje)
captur asta chiar este aerodinamic ca o caramida


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