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post 11 Feb 2016, 17:09
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Suuuper , acum aveti grja cum va miscati pe langa ea,


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Multumesc pt aprecieri, ma ce sa zic, acu' va dati seama masina mai are defecte pe ici pe colo, da' in principiu mie'mi convine cum a iesit happy.gif
O mai las 1 sapt sa fiu sigur ca s'a intarit lacu bine ca e dat in strat grosier, si apoi ma apuc de montaje, pana atunci avem destule de facut, de pregatit..

O sa pun si poze cu usile pe care am dat mai multe maini de lac.. ca nu se mai termina si era pacat sa'l arunc oricum am aruncat mai mult de juma de litru, deci mai mergea o tura da deja mai avea putin si o lua la vale lacul de pe ele. icon_mrgreen.gif apoi coapte 40 min la 60-70 grade si asta a fost.

Poze cu usile:

l.e: cam atatea, peste cateva zile o sa pun poze cu piesele noi care se vor monta pe masina sau au fost montate (majoritatea de mecanica)

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post 15 Feb 2016, 07:35
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Printre cele mai frumoase restaurari, felicitarile mele si mult noroc cu daciana biggrin.gif


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post 26 Feb 2016, 00:03
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Salutare

fullhouse multumesc frumos, ce sa zic, era loc de mai bine, da' stii cum e costa si deja am bagat mai mult decat ma asteptam, dar de' noi sa fim sanatosi, acu' dac'am intrat in hora jucam pan' la cap icon_mrgreen.gif cool.gif


Poze cu cateva piese curatate:

Inainte si dupa=>>





1. am revizuit electromotorul, nu era nevoie nici sa schimb bendixul si nici carbunii
2. am revizuit + curatat toate elementele din chiulasa
3. am revizuit + curatat cutia de viteze, caseta directie, bielele + capacele

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post 26 Feb 2016, 11:15
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Cutia de viteze ai luat-o "la mana" pt. curatire, sau ai pus spuma activa si furtunul pe ea?
Cand am facut-o pe a mea am incercat cateva ore la mana, cu o solutie oarecare, carpa si periuta, dar e munca de ocnas, mi-a rupt spatele si-am renuntat dupa ce-am luat grosul mizeriei. Pacat ca in functionare nu raman prea mult timp asa cum arata in pozele tale, ca noi.


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post 26 Feb 2016, 11:56
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ar putea ramane asa macar 50% daca s-ar folosi simeringuri ok la planetare,vad ca el are din alea cu pasla(is foarte ok) .....cutia are un joc radial la axele planetare si in timp si-l face si mai mare,asta in 4 trepte are etansarea intre planetara si ea,daca mai joaca putin si planetara pe axul planetar e si mai si,poti sa-i pui si mama simeringului ca tot scuipa ulei...ala cu pasla,cum are si el,are si buza de cauciuc si pasla aia care mai retine din pierderi si oprese si mizeria......mai pierd ele si pe la culegator......


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post 26 Feb 2016, 12:20
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Mhai, s-o stapanesti sanatos si sanatete. Numai ca grija pe unde o tii parcata, am vopsit si eu anul trecut si dupa nici o luna, iese o ,,vacuta,, din parcarea laterala , si mi-0 face 70% pe o laterala. Sa mori de apoplexie ! 183.gif

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post 27 Feb 2016, 19:44
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Salutare, prima oara am incercat si cu spuma activa si nu face absolut nimic.. ca e intarita mazga aia - pamant si ulei - si nici macar nu se clinteste cand dai cu presiune pe ea.. intr'un final am vrut s'o sablez dar toti care sableaza prin zona mi'au zis ca domne cu nisip nu merge ca e riscu sa se deterioreze, sa se sparga sa nustiu ce si am lasat'o balta.
Dupa care m'am ambitionat si am inceput s'o curat cu spaclu si cu surubelnita (stratu gros), iar apoi am pus 3 litri de nitrodiluant in tava si da'i cu peria de sarma si cu pensula pe ea pana a iesit cum a iesit..

Acu nu stiu cat o sa tina asa, da' ma mai bag io din cand in cand si mai sterg uleiu de pe acolo, ca macar s'o intretin pot cool.gif


n3mo multam fain icon_mrgreen.gif pai acu' de, ce sa facem, io merg pe ideea ca daca e sa se intample ceva, se intampla oricum..


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Am si eu o cutie de rezerva, cumparata, si arata tot asa plina de ulei cu pamant, etc. Mi-ai dat idee si cum vine caldura luna viitoare trec si eu s-o fac,, ,boboc,,. Vad ca cu diluant a mers, dar sa incerc cu decarburol(cel de curatat carburatoare) stiu ca mananca tot ce e grasime, etc. o fi ok? bine-neteles dupa ce o curat mecanic inainte.
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post 27 Feb 2016, 20:52
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si benzina face minuni....


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post 28 Feb 2016, 02:01
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Motorina si ceva benzina la sfarsit, intai luat mecanic grosul. Daca folosesti trei litri de diluant (este mai scump si se si evapora, astfel ca desi are putere de dizolvare, curata mai prost) si mai este si cald, ai sanse sa mori langa cutie. Jegul se ia bine cu tarana/nisip si perie (dopuri in locul planetarelor), spaclu, surubelnite...carpe.

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post 1 Mar 2016, 09:11
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Iata Mihai ce-ti pregatesc baietii de la IXO, o magheta DACIA 1300 rosie 1/8,
Eu cred ca voi cumpara vreo 3 Kit-uri,una o las rosie , a doua o vopsesc bleo 61si ultima o fac rosu 28.




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Dar de cati ani tot pregatesc si nimic. Eu mi-am cam pierdut sperantele...


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dstdan multam de urari! cool.gif despre decarburol nu stiu ce sa zic, n'am folosit inca, da incearca poate e mai in regula habar n'am..

sobolan benzina e cam moarta... cel putin asa mi s'a intamplat mie cand am curatat alte piese.. nu se mai face benzina cum era odata, cand te stergeai pe maini cu benzina iti ramaneau albe, acu nema..

BLUE R 19 motorina si benzina merge, dar problema e ca apoi ramane uleioasa rau cutia sau orice alta piese si se pune prafu imediat si jegu, io zic ca tot cu diluant sau nitrodiluant chiar, io d'asta am folosit, cel mai ieftin e 7-8 lei litru si iti ajung 3 litrii si s'o speli si s'o clatesti plus ca avantaju e ca se curatata mult mai repede si mai usor, adica nu mai stai sa freci de'ti sar mainile pana se inmoaie tot namolu' wink.gif

Catalin THW interesant, inca nu aflasem de prototip, noroc ca m'ati anuntat sa fiu pe faza cand o aparea surata happy.gif io o sa ma rezum totusi la 2, una pt tinut in casa si una in masina, in loc de caine d'ala care'si misca mecla icon_mrgreen.gif

Maniak22 stii cum e, acu' asteptarea moarte n'are si speranta moare ultima, da' banuiesc ca daca prototipu' e facut, tre' s'apara si la noi mai devreme sau mai tarziu cool.gif




Revenind la subiect, am spus ultima oara ca o sa pun poze cu unele piese noi, care au fost si o sa fie montate pe masina, nu am poze chiar la toate, dar na sper ca am facut la ce e mai important.
Am cautat sa cumpar numai piese comuniste, pt ca cele din ziua de azi, facute de toate srl-urile si asam-urile au o calitate/durabilitate net inferioara.

In materie de mecanica avem asa:

1.Puntea fata:
- arcuri noi
- amortizoare noi
- bielete directie noi
- bucsi noi
- rulmenti noi
- pivoti noi
- discuri frana noi
- furtune frana si alte maruntisuri gen caluti de etrier sau cum se numesc tot noi

2.Puntea spate:
- arucri noi
- amortizoare noi
- pistonase frana noi
- ferodouri noi
- rulmenti noi
- si alte maruntisuri

3.Chiulasa noua - fabricata in 85 parca
- supape noi
- arcuri supape noi
- culbutori noi
- rampa culbutori noua
- garnitura chiulasa victor reinz

4. Motor - practic din vechiul motor am oprit doar bielele:
- set motor Borgo nou
- vibrochen(arbore cotit) nou - Codlea cota standard
- axa came noua
- semicuzineti + cuzineti noi - cota standard
- pompa de ulei noua
- lant distributie nou
- intinzator am si mecanic si dala vechi
- garnituri motor
- alternator nou
- radiator nou
- calorifer incalzire habitaclu nou
- delcou
- carburator
- bobina noua
- bujii ngk
- fise bujii janmor
- pompa apa
- pompa benzina
etc.

5.Cutie viteze:
- coroana volanta noua
- placa noua
- disc ambreiaj nou
- rulment presiune nou
- cablu ambreiaj

6. Alte piese noi care le mai vedeti prin poze, mai sus am mentionat doar ce era mai important si ce mi'am amintit:
- aeroterma modelu' nou
- ansamblu stergatoare cu tot cu motoras nou
- contact nemiman si contact seima - dar nu st noi si alte maruntisuri

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QUOTE(Mihai @ ro,1 Mar 2016, 23:59)
4. Motor - practic din vechiul motor am oprit doar bielele:
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si blocul banuiesc biggrin.gif

...treaba facuta ca la carte.... up.gif

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sobolan da si blocul laugh.gif

continuare poze:



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am avut un set de ala si eu,prin 2009 l-am dat.....ce sa fac cu el ? desi l-am dat la bani buni acum imi pare rau sad.gif


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continuare poze piese noi:



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mai ai piese de-o dacie biggrin.gif cauta ceasuri de d1300 cu jurnalier wink.gif sau pune-i o pereche de 12TL cu turometru(la astea mai trebuie trase ceva fire si un pic de rabdare)....daca-mi permiti : la filtre mergi pe mann,vechiturile alea noi is doar de efect biggrin.gif .....sper ca nu te superi,e pacat ca la un motor refacut sa pui un filtru de ulei de acum 100 de ani cum am vazut ca se mai face pe aici,da el bine acolo dar sanatatea motorului e mai importanta decat aspectul lui....

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sobolan nu ma supar stai linistit, filtru ala de ulei o sa fie pus pe masina pana fac vreo 500 km - rodaju' apoi putem sa discutam si de uleiuri si alte cele cool.gif

Ai grija cand cumperi filtre mann, sau orice mann, ca iti spun din experienta, sunt cele mai ieftine chinezarii bagate in cutii mann, caz patit cand am facut revizia la o masina, ma duc i'au filtre mann, platesc toate bune si frumoase, ajung la servis hai sa schimb alea cand colo made in china si se vedea de la o posta ca nu erau ce trebuie..adica a fost schimbat continutu' wink.gif

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QUOTE(Catalin THW @ 1 Mar 2016, 09:11)
Iata Mihai ce-ti pregatesc baietii de la IXO, o magheta DACIA 1300 rosie 1/8,
Eu cred ca voi cumpara vreo 3 Kit-uri,una o las rosie , a doua o vopsesc bleo 61si ultima o fac rosu 28.
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Trebuia sa apara la deagostini, dar s-au retras de pe piata romaneasca. Se vehicula ca vor fi ~80 de numere * 20-30 RON bucata = nu stiu daca-ti luai chiar 3 bucati smile.gif

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QUOTE(Ov @ 2 Mar 2016, 11:26)
~80 de numere * 20-30 RON bucata
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La banii astia inca se mai gasesc de-alea scara 1:1. Nu neaparat in cea mai grozava stare, dar oricum...


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Nu ma descuraja ,lasa-ma sa-mi traiesc visul , sti cum este, speranta moare ultima.


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macheta chiar ar merita banii aia la nivelul de detalii la care a fost facuta, doar ca mi se pare cam mult sa cumperi "doua, trei"


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Nu zic nu, dar mi se pare al naibii de amuzant pretul vazut din perspectiva opusa.


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Felicitari!Imi place cum ai lucrat!
Comunica-mi si mie,te rog frumos,ce model este cutia de viteze:352-12,352-34 etc.?
Nu se vede in imagine,placuta cu seria este indoita.
De asemenea,daca poti masura cu un subler diametrul axul levierului(cautatorului) de pe capacul din spate al CV.Ce dimensiune are?13 sau 15 mm?
Multumesc si spor la restaurat in continuare! smile.gif

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deceneu32 Salutare, multam fain de aprecieri! cool.gif

Cutia de viteze are seria 352 - 12 (Austria) si diametrul cautatorului parca e de 13 mm, dar mai verific odata.

Din curiozitate intreb, cam care ar fi diferentele intre o cutie de viteze 352-12 si una 352-34?
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Nu primesc notificari despre topicurile in care am postat.Numai la rubrica Oldtimers. mad.gif
Nu stiu de ce....

Exista mai multe variante de cutii de viteze romanesti.E mult de scris si nu prea am timp.Spre sfarsitul saptamanii o sa detaliez. smile.gif


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deceneu32 ok atunci, astept cu interes! ph34r.gif

Ce sa mai lucrat intre timp:

asamblare chiulasa:

- chiulasa noua
- supape noi
- arcuri supape noi
- rampa culbutori noi
- culbutori noi

procedeu - inainte de asamblarea chiulasei, fiecare supapa s'a verificat si rectificat cu o pasta pe partea care calca pe chiulasa pentru etansarea perfecta.
nu am facut multe poze ca am mai pus si io mana pe ici colo s'ajut mecanicu'


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Suuper!Ai planat chiulasa?
Numarul 130078 poansonat pe partea superioara a chiulasei este seria motorului,nu-i asa? smile.gif


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