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QUOTE(bion @ 6 Jan 2017, 22:49)
Penalu e destept si cred ca o sa taca.

Asta nu contesta nimeni, desi as zice ca-i mai degraba jmeker (se vede pe mustata lui); neamtu' nu prea le stie p-astea.


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post 13 Jan 2017, 01:16
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Iohanis e la fel de penibil ca si cuplul ciolos-dragu - absolut nimeni n-a spus ca ciolos sau dragu au plecat acasa cu 14 miliarde insa daca acei bani se incasau asa cum si-au asumat puteau fi marite toate salariile si pensiile din Romania cu 12% sau puteau fi cumparate 300 de cumintenii ale pamantului si deficitul nu s-ar fi modificat.

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post 13 Jan 2017, 09:27
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Cumva au promis Ciolos Dragu Soros Sordan iohanis marirea pensiilor cu 120% ? Era obligatia lor sa stranga banii aia?


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post 13 Jan 2017, 09:31
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bey nene, iara incepe sa mi se scorojeasca creerii capului.

or fi banii cea mai fungibila resursa, da' bujetilii functioneaza cu linii bujetare. adeca sunt multe tevi, nu o singura piscina mare.

daca cineva are impresia ca aia 10 miliarde neabsorbiti de la ue puteau fi dati direct pe benzii daca ar fi fost incasati, ori e dezinformat, ori e tampit.


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post 13 Jan 2017, 09:59
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Varianta a doua. Clar. icon_mrgreen.gif

Ca banii aia (ipotetici) ar fi fost trecuti si la incasari, dar si la cheltuieli. blush.gif


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post 13 Jan 2017, 10:05
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QUOTE(Han Solo @ 13 Jan 2017, 10:31)
daca cineva are impresia ca aia 10 miliarde neabsorbiti de la ue puteau fi dati direct pe benzii daca ar fi fost incasati, ori e dezinformat, ori e tampit.
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post 13 Jan 2017, 13:37
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QUOTE(Han Solo @ 13 Jan 2017, 09:31)
bey nene, iara incepe sa mi se scorojeasca creerii capului.

or fi banii cea mai fungibila resursa, da' bujetilii functioneaza cu linii bujetare. adeca sunt multe tevi, nu o singura piscina mare.

daca cineva are impresia ca aia 10 miliarde neabsorbiti de la ue puteau fi dati direct pe benzii daca ar fi fost incasati, ori e dezinformat, ori e tampit.
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N-am spus ca acei bani se puteau aloca la salarii si pensii ci doar cat reprezinta acei bani - aprox. 12% din toate salariile si pensiile din romania dintr-un an.


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post 13 Jan 2017, 13:40
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Adica nu spui nimic...compari mere cu pere si arunci petarde fasaite. Nu mai bine ne vorbesti de prostanacii de hamericani cum l-au ales ei pe omu rusilor in fruncea tarii ?


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post 13 Jan 2017, 13:40
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QUOTE(Wimacl10 @ 13 Jan 2017, 02:16)
.. insa daca acei bani se incasau asa cum si-au asumat puteau fi marite toate salariile si pensiile din Romania cu 12% sau puteau fi cumparate 300 de cumintenii ale pamantului si deficitul nu s-ar fi modificat.
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QUOTE(Wimacl10 @ 13 Jan 2017, 14:37)
N-am spus ca acei bani se puteau aloca la salarii si pensii ci doar cat reprezinta acei bani - aprox. 12% din toate salariile si pensiile din romania dintr-un an.
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Ia de mai citeste odata cu voce tare ce-ai zis. Te contrazici, cum respiri. radmasa.gif

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post 13 Jan 2017, 13:40
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QUOTE(luck33ro @ 13 Jan 2017, 13:40)
Adica nu spui nimic...compari mere cu pere si arunci petarde fasaite. Nu mai bine ne vorbesti de prostanacii de hamericani cum l-au ales ei pe omu rusilor in fruncea tarii ?
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Decat omu' lu' Soros ... radmasa.gif radmasa.gif

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post 13 Jan 2017, 14:02
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QUOTE(RZV @ 13 Jan 2017, 13:40)
Ia de mai citeste odata cu voce tare ce-ai zis. Te contrazici, cum respiri. radmasa.gif
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Intr-adevar prima afirmatie nu e fericita insa tot raman 14 miliarde incasari mai mici decat cele asumate pe care iohanis le considera neimportante.


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post 13 Jan 2017, 14:03
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QUOTE(ady77 @ 13 Jan 2017, 14:40)
Decat omu' lu' Soros ...  radmasa.gif  radmasa.gif
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post 13 Jan 2017, 14:06
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Important e ca omu lu Putinelu ajunse la Casa Alba. O sa iasa o perestroika hamericana de toata frumusetea tongue.gif


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post 13 Jan 2017, 15:26
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QUOTE(neumann @ 13 Jan 2017, 14:03)
Seoroj a facut campanie clintocilor fara numar, daia perdu bani
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Pai asta zic si eu, a iesit omul lui Putin, nu omul lui Soros.

Oare si la noi o fi la fel blink.gif ?


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post 13 Jan 2017, 15:37
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e totusi exagerat sa zici ca omu republicanilor e omu lu putin, parerea mea. Aia's traditional cu petrolu din texas, grupul buj, alea alea.


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post 13 Jan 2017, 15:45
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Trump e un individ extrem de complex si controversat - el pe viitor considera doar china o posibila amenintare pt. America,iar pe rusia n-o considera un adversar la nivelul americii si e posibil ca america sa intre intr-o perioada de izolationism asa cum a fost inainte si intre cele 2 razboaie mondiale. Totusi nu trebuie scosi din joc republicanii care intotdeuna au fost mai razboinici si gata sa-si impuna punctul de vedere chiar cu forta.In plus trump va declansa un razboi comercial china,in care china nu prea are cu ce arme sa lupte - daca trump reuseste sa aduca productia in usa,china fara exporturi se intoarce evul mediu in care erau pana acum 20-30 de ani.

Oricum trump deja are stabilite intalniri oficiale cu toate statele est-europene mai putin Romania,bine noi il si avem pe iohanis preocupat doar cu ce 'vazuram' aseara la tv.

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post 13 Jan 2017, 16:27
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QUOTE(Wimacl10 @ 13 Jan 2017, 15:45)
daca trump reuseste sa aduca productia in usa,
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Iar iphone-ul nu va mai fi 1.000 USD ci 2.000 USD.
Iar daca Europa nu se retrage din China, americanii vor fi foarte competitivi la preturi. icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 13 Jan 2017, 16:28
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QUOTE(ady77 @ 13 Jan 2017, 17:27)
Iar iphone-ul nu va mai fi 1.000 USD ci 2.000 USD.
Iar daca Europa nu se retrage din China, americanii vor fi foarte competitivi la preturi.  icon_mrgreen.gif
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o sa se dubleze costul cu productia. O sa ajunga de la 20 de dolari la 40 de dolari.


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post 13 Jan 2017, 16:34
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Trump a promis reduceri de taxe pt. Cei care produc in america si taxe vamale semnificative pt. Ce vine din import - deci probabil preturile cat de cat se vor egaliza - e drept in sus insa oricum preturile acum sunt mult mai mici in usa decat in ue....si nici macar cresterea usd n-a estompat aceasta diferenta - cam totul se produce in usd.

Oricum e posibil ca si-n europa sa se aplice aceiasi politica -am inteles ca marine le pen a crescut mult in sondaje si a devenit favorita la prezidenriale dupa ce a spus ca vrea sa aduca inapoi producatorii francezi sa produca in franta.

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QUOTE(Wimacl10 @ 13 Jan 2017, 16:45)
Trump e un individ extrem de complex si controversat - el pe viitor considera doar china o posibila amenintare pt. America,iar pe rusia n-o considera un adversar la nivelul americii

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post 13 Jan 2017, 19:27
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Pipi de rusoaica profesionista... biggrin.gif


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post 14 Jan 2017, 10:30
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Trump a renuntat la salariu de presedinte,asteptam acelasi lucru de la iohanis care n-a facut absolut nimic concret in mai bine de 2 ani de mandat..Trump nici macar n-a preluat inca mandatul si deja i-a fortat pe Ford,Fiat,GM si foarte probabil Toyota sa-si reloce fabricile din mexic in america....ok n-are iohanis 'armele' presedintelui american dar macar ceva lobby la washington si-n alte parti pt. A atrage investitori in romania putea sa faca,in plus presiuni constante la ue pt. Intrarea in schengen....de ex. La semnarea tratatului de liber schimb ue-canada presiunea trebuia pusa si pe ue nu doar pe canada pt. Vizele canadiene...un rahat de regiune din belgia a pus atunci ditamai presiunea pe ue pt. A abtine diverse facilitati,noi n-am avut nimic de cerut.

Lucruri de genul asta conteaza pentru americani,ma indoiesc ca vreun american nu stia ca trump e cel putin excentric si cu totul iesit din tiparele unui politician clasic.

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post 14 Jan 2017, 10:44
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Trump e un doar un idiot, restul e can-can.


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QUOTE(Wimacl10 @ 14 Jan 2017, 11:30)
Trump a renuntat la salariu de presedinte
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Ii era frica sa nu il taxeze Dragnea tongue.gif


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I-l baga Putin cu dobanda cu tot, direct pe card.


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QUOTE(ady77 @ 14 Jan 2017, 09:44)
Trump e un doar un idiot, restul e can-can.
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Adevarul e ca au si avut ce alege radmasa.gif

Cam ca la noi, acu' nu stiu am ajuns noi la nivelul lor sau ei la nivelul nostru? icon_mrgreen.gif


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Globalizarea inseamna ca societatile avansate se aliniaza la nivelul statelor rupte-n coor. E mai usor asa decat invers ...


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Deci ne-am aliniat americanilor icon_mrgreen.gif


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