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Modelul BMW Seria 5 nu a reuşit să treacă testul elanului efectuat de către revista suedeză Teknikens Vard. http://www.evenimentul.ro/local/article/11...aseArticle.html

Modelul BMW Seria 5 nu a reuşit să treacă testul elanului efectuat de către revista suedeză Teknikens Vard.

http://www.evenimentul.ro/local/article/11...aseArticle.html

Pai si care-i treaba?
S-a rasturnat si A classe, l-au remediat si merge....
Mie imi place supratitlul "si mai vorbeau de Logan".
Care-i legatura ? Daca te apuci de testul asta il treci sau nu. Fie ca te cheama Mercedes. BMW, Saab, Logan sau mai stiu eu cum.

Ziaristii lu' peste !

Parerea mea ca is tot chestii aranjate.

Costi . Astia cred ca viseaza numai elani pusi sa dea bacalaureatu' de cind cu repetentu' clasei...

P.S.: Mi-a placut si mie supratitlul... daca nici Bmw 5 nu mai e masina, atunci care-o fi? Ca sa nu dau nume.

Ce bine ca am luat Logan: eu ma rastorn cu numai 7000Eur, nu cu 40,000

Totusi exista si o diferenta - reactia lor este "The vehicles have been taken to Germany for further testing, to see what the problem may be.", si nu "aia minte ca sa denigreze masina noastra mioritica"

Vine sfarsitul lumii . E clar . Daca si seria 5 cade la acest test e grav de tot .

Stiti care e bucuria piticului ? Sa intalneasca unu mai mic decat el

Asa si cu masinile astea...Bucuria loganistilor cand se mai strica si altele

Vine sfarsitul lumii . E clar . Daca si seria 5 cade la acest test e grav de tot .

Eu deja sap un buncar si adun provizii

This post has been edited by andu911: 9 Nov 2005, 21:39

Ai grija cum il faci sa nu pice si buncarul testul elanului.

Ia sa vedem care e chiar opinia revistei...

The problem is evident across the board in the 5-series, but worst in the versions with the smallest variants: The electronic stability control doesn't kick in fast enough, and doesn't do enough to allow the driver to keep control of the car, which means that the ESP system may not be doing its job. The result is that the car is liable to spin, which could cause accidents.

Teknikens Vard speculates that the problem may be with the stiffer side-walls found in the BMW's run-flat tyres. The vehicles have been taken to Germany for further testing, to see what the problem may be.

It is worth pointing out that the problem - if there is a problem - poses no danger during normal driving: The issue cannot cause accidents, but may fail to prevent accidents.

Oricum observ o saracie de informatii pe net asupra subiectului (conditii de realizare, etc)

Acum serios vorbind, o sa ma uit si eu pe aici sa vad daca o sa apara ceva si in revistele nemtilor. Cum o sa vad ceva dau un signal pe aici. Oricum e prea devreme ca sa ne dam cu parerea, si nu cred ca isi permitea bmw-ul sa aduca 5-ul pe piata cu probleme de genul asta.
Ce mi se pare mie ciudat e faptul ca abia dupa atita timp dupa ce noul 5 e pe piata se apuca suedezii sa faca teste cu el... E cam de vreo 2 ani pe piata 5-ul... nu? O sa ma documentez mai bine.

The result is that the car is liable to spin

De aici deducem ca derapeaza, nu se rastoarna. Clar? Nicaieri nu zice ca s-a rasturnat ci doar ca nu a trecut testul, probabil lovind jaloanele.

testul elanului se face la ADAC, nu la reviste din suedia...,iar acest test i-a fost facut de cand a iesit pe piata...ca a gasit si o revista din suedia o slabiciune, e altceva....chiar scrie mare pe siteul lor "NU REPREZINTA UN PERICOL CAND ESTE CONDUS NORMAL" evident..."patriotii" de la EZ n-au mai tradus si asta.

This post has been edited by andu911: 10 Nov 2005, 11:01

De unde ai scos-o si pe asta cu ADAC-ul ?
Oricine poate face testul: uzina, registru auto, revista de specialitate, dealer, etc.
De altfel testul a fost inventat si facut ani la rind doar in Suedia. Iar cei care au rasturnat A classe erau ziaristi.

Ca a fost implicat ADAC-ul in faza cu LGN-ul e alta treaba.

In rest constatat din nou, daca mai era cazul, cit de profesionisti sint ziaristii romani, asta dupa ce ieri alt specimen scria ca mergea cu 125 km/h prin sat.

Pai nu mai stiu cine scria ca vezi domne nu au descoperit nemtii buba ca bmw e nemtesc...etc...Lasand la o parte ideea ca acolo nu-i ca aici, ce si-ar mai dori Mercedes si Audi sa se strice toate bmw'urile

Pai berlina mea trecea testul fara probleme. Mai ales cand cuplam controlul tractiunii si stabilitatii ma gaseati prin decor pe undeva hahahaha

This post has been edited by ionutctn: 10 Nov 2005, 11:23

Asta cu "luatul" si "neluatul" testului este iar o inventie jurnalistica. testul standard este trecut de diverse tipuri de masini la diferite viteze maxime, dupa care apare derapajul. O viteza de 70-80 Km/h este considerata buna.

Cititi aici: http://www.bmw.se/523i/pages/BMW_523i_manage_moose_test.pdf
sa vedeti alta aiureala, gen LGN. De fapt ziaristii deconectasera sistemul de control al stabilitatii.

This post has been edited by costi: 10 Nov 2005, 11:54

M-am gandit sa postez aici ce scrie in documentul ala, ca sa fie mai accesibila treaba:

Media Information 2005-11-01
Successful moose test at BMW test track witnessed by Teknikens Värld.
Teknikens Värld have released pictures of a moose test of the BMW 523i, which have been shown and commented upon in the media. They also gave away the footage to public television news where the viewers can see driving sequences that end with a substantial skid. What the viewers don’t know is that in the particular scene shown, the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system has been deliberately deactivated by Teknikens Värld. This gives a completely misleading picture of the driving dynamics of the car. Teknikens Värld also claims that the test shows that the car is dangerous.
Because of this, BMW immediately invited Teknikens Värld to their test course in Munich to perform a joint moose test with the same 523i and further 5-series models such as the 530i, 530d, and 550i.
The test team from Teknikens Värld investigated the car and course thoroughly. Afterwards they participated as passengers in all of the tests performed with maximum load.
The same BMW 523i formerly tested by Teknikens Värld passed the moose test at 72,73 km/h, which is a top performance in it’s class. In the prior test made by Teknikens Värld in Sweden, the car passed at 68,5 km/h.
Teknikens Värld’s test driver was offered the opportunity to carry out the moose test but refused.
Teknikens Värld’s test team and BMW agree that the Teknikens Värld’s moose test can be performed with different driving techniques. This means that the way of handling the car and choice of track will have a big influence on the result. Therefore the original moose test was developed into the VDA test, which is acknowledged by the car industry and ISO-certificated. The BMW 5-series has successfully completed this test performed hundreds of times by the
media all over the world. After a test demonstration Teknikens Värld confirmed that the VDA-test is more reproducible than the moose test.
In the BMW 523i test made by Teknikens Värld in Sweden, they consider that the car’s stability control system allows a too large rear end side movement in the exemplary avoiding manoeuvre.
-The setting of the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system is chosen for an optimal combination of safety and driving pleasure. The Dynamic Stability Control system catch up a rear end side movement and the joint tests in Munich clearly shows that this is the case. The system is calibrated for different road conditions; snowy, wet or dry roads are all handled. Also different tyres, e.g. Runflat tyres, do not influence the behaviour of the car, says Nils Simonsson, Corporate Communications manager of BMW Group Sweden.
BMW 5-series is thoroughly tested and manufactured in nearly half a million samples and has been driven by its owners for over two and a half years. It has also been tested hundreds of times in the media, including previous tests by Teknikens Värld and has shown exemplary results for it’s over all driving dynamics, and in the lane change test.

domnilor, singurul organism recunoscut in toata lumea, repet RECUNOSCUT, care poate face astfel de teste este EuroNCAP. In rest, pot sa fac si eu testul in spatele blocului, who care?

pai ziaristii sunt si ei vinovati
off topic : s-a intamplat in romania cand niste ziaristi au facut accident, cu o masina pe care o testau