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post 12 Jul 2015, 17:43
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post 12 Jul 2015, 17:45
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post 12 Jul 2015, 17:48
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post 12 Jul 2015, 19:09
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post 12 Jul 2015, 19:43
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eh, baietii discuta despre turbine
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post 12 Jul 2015, 20:19
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Turbina lui e mai mare, desigur. Dar la ce folos?


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post 12 Jul 2015, 20:21
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Nu e vorba de turbina..

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post 12 Jul 2015, 20:30
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Stiu, e acel "altceva". Dar eu sunt un banal. Si imi iese al dracului de bine, fara SUV, fara GPL.


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post 12 Jul 2015, 23:29
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QUOTE(mars @ 12 Jul 2015, 17:53)
E numai vreo 4-500 de lei un xenon.
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osram = 250ron. Problema in general la masinile cu xenon e oglinda care se arde si nu se gaseste decat farul cu totul, deci nu becul care e ieftin.

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post 13 Jul 2015, 00:03
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se gaseste atat lupa stock, cat si lupe aftermarket mai capabile.
deci nu e nici o problema. exista mastercard.


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post 13 Jul 2015, 05:45
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post 13 Jul 2015, 06:00
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QUOTE(UXE @ 11 Jul 2015, 22:03)
Azi am constatat ca daca aprind doar pozitiile si dau faza lunga se aprinde  xenonul de pe faza scurta simultan cu halogenu.
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post 13 Jul 2015, 06:50
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Lupa e aia in spatele careia sta becul cu xenon. Cica s-ar afuma cu timpul. Dar asta poate insemna 10 ani sau mai mult.


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post 13 Jul 2015, 08:39
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QUOTE(UXE @ 13 Jul 2015, 05:45)
Ce lupa ma?
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aia la care o sa faci tu habgreid cand ti s-or matuii oglinzile farului.
cel mai brobabil moromoto.


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post 13 Jul 2015, 13:49
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QUOTE(UXE @ 13 Jul 2015, 06:45)
Ce lupa ma?
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nu era vb de a ta, tu ai far normal cu reflector, bec probabil d2r.

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Lupa e aia in spatele careia sta becul cu xenon. Cica s-ar afuma cu timpul. Dar asta poate insemna 10 ani sau mai mult.
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pe lupa se pune doar praf, oglinda/reflectorul din spate se prajeste, de la temperatura ridicata. Nu chiar 10 ani, la megane-ul meu era deja prajita dupa 6 ani.

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post 13 Jul 2015, 13:51
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tu ai far normal cu reflector


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post 13 Jul 2015, 13:52
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QUOTE(pishky @ 13 Jul 2015, 01:03)
se gaseste atat lupa stock, cat si lupe aftermarket mai capabile.
deci nu e nici o problema. exista mastercard.
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depinde de model, lupe stock Valeo d1s pt megane nu prea se gasesc , iar cele aftermarket bi-xenon sunt greu de adaptat, plus ca nu au soclu standard (d1s/d2s).

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Asa face si scenicu'. No worries wink.gif
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ciudat, testez si eu diseara pe megane de curiozitate.

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post 13 Jul 2015, 14:07
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Megane-ul nu e scenic, scenic-ul e megane.


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post 13 Jul 2015, 14:11
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post 14 Jul 2015, 11:48
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testat, pe megane nu face , faza scurta se aprinde doar separat.


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post 14 Jul 2015, 12:41
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Obturator pe faza scurta exista? Sau face faza lunga exclusiv cu H7le?


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post 14 Jul 2015, 12:53
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La Passat la flash se aprinde doar faza lunga, in schimb daca faza scurta este aprinsa si comut pe lunga urca si xenonul de pe scurta la maxim ... depinde de solutia aleasa de constructor.


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post 14 Jul 2015, 13:13
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Daca este bixenon, altfel se aprinde doar faza lunga.Daca ai proiectoarele aprinse si dai faza lunga se sting si acestea.


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post 14 Jul 2015, 22:59
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QUOTE(R19/16v @ 14 Jul 2015, 13:41)
Obturator pe faza scurta exista? Sau face faza lunga exclusiv cu H7le?
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la m2 xenon e doar pe faza scurta (nu e bi) , deci faza lunga (si blitz) va fi doar pe becul separat.

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post 15 Jul 2015, 06:27
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Si la scenic e la fel, D2S si H1, dar D2Sul are obturator care se retrage cand fac faza lunga.


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post 15 Jul 2015, 08:19
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de fabrica sau e retrofit / upgrade?
ca la mine are obturator - fix.


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post 15 Jul 2015, 11:02
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QUOTE(R19/16v @ 15 Jul 2015, 07:27)
Si la scenic e la fel, D2S si H1, dar D2Sul are obturator care se retrage cand fac faza lunga.
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da, pai tu ai scenic 2.1 , nu stiam ca s-a pus bi-xenon pe ele (sau nu le ai din fabrica?)... dar totusi ciudat ca pe blitz da si cu cu xenon-ul de pe pozitie... de obicei la cele care au BI cand e faza scurta stinsa , da blitz doar cu becul separat de faza lunga.

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post 15 Jul 2015, 11:30
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Farurile originale, de fabrica, au lupa si oglinda, lupa pentru D2S cu obturator actinat cu o bobinuta si oglinda pentru H1.
Daca am luminile oprite, banuiesc ca se aprinde doar H1. Nu stiu pentru ca nu merg cu luminile aprinse, o sa incerc.
Daca sunt pe faza scurta, la flash se lasa obturatorul si se aprinde H1.

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nu trebuia sa detaliezi, acel sistem se numeste bi-xenon, ciudat ca s-a pus pe scenic si pe megane nu , deoarece sunt pe aceeasi platforma.

legat de aprindere, ai sustinut mai sus ca daca ai doar pozitia aprinsa cand dai blitz aprinde xenon(+bobina) +h1 , esti sigur ca aprinde si xenon-ul? normal ar tb sa-l aprinda la blitz/faza lunga doar daca ai faza scurta aprinsa (deci nu pe pozitii).

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Nu esti singur pe forum, daca tu stiai dinainte, acu' mai stiu si altii.
Cat despre modul de functionare cu luminile oprite sau doar pe pozitii am spus ca NU STIU pentru ca nu le folosesc niciodata asa.
Testez si revin cu info.

Nu stiu daca conteaza sau nu, toate blocurile optice de pe scenic sunt hella, pe megane pare-mi-se ca-s valeo.

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