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IRONICK
post 7 Mar 2010, 21:41
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aaa nu, da mai este si distractia. mai testezi una, mai testezi alta ... iti mai faci de lucru

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post 8 Mar 2010, 08:22
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12 % e.... cam multicel. Dar depinde si de conditiile in care l-ai obtinut. Eu intotdeauna fac corelatia consum mediu - viteza medie. La sub 18km/h am undeva la 11%, intre 18-20 km/h am 10, 10 si ceva, iar la peste 20km/h scade sub 10.
La 63 km/h (drum afara) am tras 5,3...


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post 8 Mar 2010, 08:50
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facem ce facem si-o dam in consum....


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post 9 Mar 2010, 07:57
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si pina la urma care e cea mai buna bujie pentru logan? pentru benzinar ma intereseaza,dar nu o lista ,ceva la sigur.

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post 9 Mar 2010, 09:05
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salut,

dupa parerea mea, cele mai bune bujii sint acelea care tin cit mai mult, indiferent daca sint de origine sau aftermarket.

circula diverse opinii apropo de cele care ar tine 100, 90 sau 60 de mii de km. probabil ca as o fi. deocamdata eyquem-urile mele se comporta o.k.

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post 9 Mar 2010, 09:10
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si eu am schimbat bujiile la logan 16cc si am cumparat acelasi model care au venit din fabrica adica marca eyquem si merg bine


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post 10 Mar 2010, 12:12
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smile.gif Cele mai bune bujii pentru logan sant _Beru UXT11 _ ....... au electrod de titaniu si au garantie de 150 mii km costa 45 lei dar aceleasi le gasiti s la 60 lei depinde de magazin .Aceste bujii sant mandria planetei pamint la ora actuala si nu exista ceva mai bun chiar daca aveti milioane de euro in cont tot nu gasiti ceva mai bun rolleyes.gif http://www.kauflux.de/beru-ultra-uxt-11-ti...et_11160861.htm


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post 10 Mar 2010, 12:54
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Pe naiba, exista NGK iridium care tin 120 000 fata de astea care zic ca tin 60 000. Set 4 din astea e vreo 90 de lei la augsburg, cu electrod central de platina.


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post 10 Mar 2010, 13:08
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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 10 Mar 2010, 12:54)
Pe naiba, exista NGK iridium [...] cu electrod central de platina
Deci astea cu iridium au electrod central din platina? blink.gif Nici ale aberu nu il au din platina, ci din titan.

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post 10 Mar 2010, 13:14
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post 10 Mar 2010, 14:16
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 10 Mar 2010, 14:08)
Deci astea cu iridium au electrod central din platina?  blink.gif Nici ale aberu nu il au din platina, ci din titan.
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Deci mai citeste. Beru Ultra X Titanium au electrod central de platina si electrod de masa din aliaj titaniu nickel. Pretul de mai sus era pentru beru, nu pentru NGK Iridium ca a lu doctpru', ca alea sunt 50 de lei bucata.

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post 10 Mar 2010, 14:29
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stati calmi. nu va certati.
exista si cu platina si cu iridium. pentru toata lumea. radmasa.gif

LASER PLATINUM®

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* Laser welded Iridium center electrode tip
* Platinum disc welded to backside of ground electrode provides long life
* Trivalent Metal Plating for superior anti-corrosion and anti-seizing
* Faster starts and quicker acceleration
* Better fuel economy and lower emissions
* Best OEM Iridium spark plug available
* Original Equipment Manufacturer approved design

http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/products/spar...um.asp?mode=nml

http://beru.com/english/produkte/zuendkerzen/ultraxtitan.php

Technical Features of Ultra X Titan

* Extremly reliable ignition: With a high erosion-resistant nickeltitanium alloy: filigree ground electrode in specially developed Poly-V shape for extremely reliable ignition.
* Cold-start reliability: Center electrode with platinum ignition tip for excellent cold-start performance.
* Reliable: Corona ring for systematic predischarge and stable ignition.

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Technical Features of Ultra X and Ultra X Platinum

* Reliable ignition: Combined air/surface gap technique. Ignition reliability by several spark paths.
* Powerful: Optimal combustion due to protruding spark position
* Cold start reliability: Self-cleaning function by surface gap spark technology.
* Reliable: Quickly reaches the ideal operating temperature by a special insulator mount and intricate earth electrodes.
* Environmentally friendly: Pollutant emissions minimised and catalytic converter protected due to effective combustion

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Technical Features of BERU Ultra

* Optimal, environmentally friendly combustion: saves fuel and protects the catalytic converter
* Reliable ignition under all operating conditions
* Long life, high dependability
* Proven materials: Two-component earth and centre electrode with nickel-jacketed copper core adapted exactly to the application purpose
* Versions same as OEM

http://beru.com/english/produkte/zuendkerzen/ultra.php

Beru Spark Plugs with Platinum/Silver Electrodes

Technical Features

* Centre and, if required, ground electrodes made of special materials, for example silver for high thermal conductivity or platinum for extremely high resistance to erosion.
* Optimal, environmentally friendly combustion: saves fuel and protects the catalytic converter
* Long life, high dependability
* Good cold starting properties
* Excellent mixture access
* First equipment quality

http://beru.com/english/produkte/zuendkerzen/platin.php


10 Mar 2010, 17:44:
eyquem. un pic mai vechi...
http://www.autopilot.dp.ua/catalog/eyquem.pdf

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post 10 Mar 2010, 20:11
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biggrin.gif Daca vreti niste bujii deosebite luati va dinalea cu electrod ingropat in ceramica Bosch Platinum seria FR 7 DPX ... au electrod din platina 99,9 % si costa 10 lei bucata sofer1.gif .... au o constructie deosebita ,nu am mai vazut la alta firma un produs asemanator rolleyes.gif


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post 10 Mar 2010, 20:27
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Bujiile sunt de 2 tipuri: reci si calde. Daca cumparam alte bujii decat trebuie nu prea e bine. Sa luati in calcul si aceste lucruri.
Urmatorul link da cateva detalii : http://www.atao.ro/2008/02/05/motorul-stri...ri-de-calamina/



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post 10 Mar 2010, 21:22
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QUOTE(mykissfm @ 9 Mar 2010, 08:57)
si pina la urma care e cea mai buna bujie pentru logan?
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Bujia Logan este cea mai buna pentru Logan tongue.gif


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post 10 Mar 2010, 21:30
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Io astept sa vina ale de dastar, ca-s de suv si sunt mai puternice. Astea cu 4 electrozi se potrivesc perfect, mai ales cand ai 4x4 pe masina, ca ajuta la suctiunea de pe puntea spate. Dalea vreau sa pun la urmatorul schimb.

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post 10 Mar 2010, 21:38
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Numai sa nu-ti iei din alea de la DCI 110. Nu cred ca face fata viblochenu' la puterea degajata, maxim de 16V... laugh.gif


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post 11 Mar 2010, 09:06
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QUOTE(surube @ 10 Mar 2010, 20:11)
biggrin.gif Daca vreti niste bujii deosebite luati va dinalea cu electrod ingropat in ceramica Bosch Platinum seria FR 7 DPX ... au electrod din platina 99,9 % si costa 10 lei bucata  sofer1.gif .... au o constructie deosebita ,nu am mai vazut la alta firma un produs asemanator  rolleyes.gif
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de unde se cumpara ? de pe ebay ? ca in romania nu prea pare sa vinda cineva
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cataloage bosch
http://www.bosch.com.au/content/language1/...stralia_Web.pdf

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2677582/BOSCH-Sp...al-Bujias-Bosch

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post 11 Mar 2010, 10:27
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Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, a invatat sa puna si poze acum!!!!!!!!!!!!


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post 11 Mar 2010, 10:54
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eu v-am zis la cafenea sa nu-i ziceti...voi nu, batman..


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post 11 Mar 2010, 11:03
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Eu nu mai testez nimic in afara de durata de viata preconizata de 90.000 km; deocamdata au implinit 50 k
Pe argoneatza tre' sa-l trec cumva pe iridium laugh.gif


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post 11 Mar 2010, 11:14
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eu am schimbat bujiile clasice NGK ' v-line nr.14' la 75.000 km si inca mai mergeau pana la 90.000, eu nu pun botul la vrajala cu iridium si alte sf-uri.

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post 11 Mar 2010, 11:20
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Alea nu mai mergeau deloc.....
Stii ce-i gulerul ala maro de pe izolatorul ceramic?


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post 11 Mar 2010, 11:22
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QUOTE(argon @ 11 Mar 2010, 11:14)
la 75.000 km si inca mai mergeau pana la 90.000
Mai mergeau pe naiba.


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post 11 Mar 2010, 11:24
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QUOTE(YRX @ 11 Mar 2010, 11:20)
Stii ce-i gulerul ala maro de pe izolatorul ceramic?
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dupa ce am citit ca e normal, nu m-am mai agitatr sa aflu exact ce e. unsure.gif le-am schimbat sa fiu sigur, nu ca ar fi dat motorul sau consumul vreun semn, deci inca 15.000 in plus sau in minus tot aia era.


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Eu nu stiu cum tineti voi bujiile astea asa mult.La mine NGK-urile,dupa ~12000km aveau distanta~1.0 in loc de 0.9 cand le-am montat.Ca sa nu mai spun ca una sau doua aveau o uzura cel putin ciudata la electrodul central. blink.gif


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E normal la bujii vechi si uzate. Sunt gaze scapate din cilindru printre izolatorul ceramic si partea metalica, cu cat mai mare pata cu atat mai ne-etansa bujia.


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post 11 Mar 2010, 11:31
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Pata nu poate fi mai mare de atat, pana acolo vine mansonul de la fisa. Nu sunt convins ca aia e, dar e posibil, e ca un email sticlos, toate 4 la fel, din pacate nu mai gasesc acum unde am citit ce e aia exact.

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Da, se face pana unde izoleaza fisa, se depune un strat asemanator calaminei
De aia nu sunt adeptul bujiilor prea scumpe care tin mult, mai bine normale schimbate mai des.


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corect pana aici, dar unii au impresia ca alea scumpe cu kriptonita, sau cu 15 electrozi le dau shpe cai putere in plus . bla bla bla.gif


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