Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+ Renault Ondelios Concept crossover, @Paris

Ce e interesant la acest model e hibridul diesel/electric, care are din cate am inteles 205 cp. Partea laterala e interesanta (s-ar putea scoate ceva f fain in serie) insa la partea din fata si din spate mai au de lucrat: Most concepts these days are designed with one eye on production, but every once in a while we get a humdinger like the Renault Ondelios Concept that's scheduled to debut next month at the Paris Motor Show. The Ondelios is Renault's far out vision for a high-end crossover of the future. The exterior has a slippery shape with a drag coefficient of 0.29 and a look that's certainly... umm... futuristic. The transition from the dark-colored carbon fiber body to the glazed greenhouse is supposed to blend and make the whole car appear as one piece of material. The two gull-wing doors swing up and the side sills lower to become steps, thus easing ingress into the six-seat CUV of tomorrow. Occupants will find slim line seats inside that recline like a business class seat with footrests, as well as personal entertainment devices on the back of each cantilevered headrest. The dash is completely smooth with controls that light up from beneath the surface, while views from various outboard cameras are projected at the base of the steeply raked windshield. Renault's vision of the future must include a continued concern over fuel economy, as the Ondelios is a diesel hybrid with a 2.0L dCi engine supported by two electric motors placed at each end. Renault claims the hybrid concept, which comes packing a 7-speed double-clutch transmission, could hit 62 mph in 7.8 seconds. Of course, the Ondelios Concept appears to be nothing more than designers and engineers at Renault stretching their legs a bit while the developing the next Megane, Clio and Twingo. 228c834fd8399ccd8208826f09701276.jpg abdfad10678079216d16c7d36b62d55c.jpg 6ceeec7a4015dd6907294791d726c08f.jpg e5b0330b7df410299ad393d99a5fe844.jpg e5a5b51d71b7a4a88e94fb4701dbca4c.jpg 212ad647b1b529176aaa9014b86f393e.jpg 87890941d7bd187cf1af52aa020a4d69.jpg 40fa3704a6f3e714bd664ca73d110a5d.jpg

Ce e interesant la acest model e hibridul diesel/electric, care are din cate am inteles 205 cp. Partea laterala e interesanta (s-ar putea scoate ceva f fain in serie) insa la partea din fata si din spate mai au de lucrat:

Most concepts these days are designed with one eye on production, but every once in a while we get a humdinger like the Renault Ondelios Concept that's scheduled to debut next month at the Paris Motor Show. The Ondelios is Renault's far out vision for a high-end crossover of the future. The exterior has a slippery shape with a drag coefficient of 0.29 and a look that's certainly... umm... futuristic. The transition from the dark-colored carbon fiber body to the glazed greenhouse is supposed to blend and make the whole car appear as one piece of material. The two gull-wing doors swing up and the side sills lower to become steps, thus easing ingress into the six-seat CUV of tomorrow.

Occupants will find slim line seats inside that recline like a business class seat with footrests, as well as personal entertainment devices on the back of each cantilevered headrest. The dash is completely smooth
with controls that light up from beneath the surface, while views from various outboard cameras are projected at the base of the steeply raked windshield. Renault's vision of the future must include a continued concern over fuel economy, as the Ondelios is a diesel hybrid with a 2.0L dCi engine supported by two electric motors placed at each end. Renault claims the hybrid concept, which comes packing a 7-speed double-clutch transmission, could hit 62 mph in 7.8 seconds. Of course, the Ondelios Concept appears to be nothing more than designers and engineers at Renault stretching their legs a bit while the developing the next Megane, Clio and Twingo.

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Ce dracu'......?


Asta e ca un vis...Amesteca lucruri vagi cu lucruri ciudate cu detalii obscure..cu forme neclare ..si-ti provoaca sentimente confuze pe care nu le poti transpune in cuvinte.

Sunt absolut convins ca designerii renault sunt conectati la aparate cand dorm si subconstientul lor produce formele astea..100%!

Daca bmw face x6 (mie imi place) renault face asta.Gasiti voi legatura..

This post has been edited by Arhimede: 10 Sep 2008, 22:16

Arata foarte interesant. Abia astept sa vad ce model de serie se va baza pe acest prototip. Astept un nou model in clasa mare care sa inlocuiasca superbul VelSatis, si mi-e tare dor si de Avantime

pe mine linia laterala ma duce cu gandul la un suv bazat pe pathfinder. Daca te uiti atent se vede un lateral de pathfinder "evoluat". Si cred ca asta e singurul lucru ce il vor prelua de la acest concept. Sau cel putin asa sper..

Din fata arata ca un aparat de aer conditionat iar din spate ca un frigider.

Bine, e doar un alt concept futurist care nu va avea nicio legatura cu eventualul model scos.

Din fata seamana cu asta
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This long-distance voyager boasts sleek, smooth, amazingly fluid lines that make it appear as though it glides over the ground.

The glazed roof further emphasises the vehicle’s airy look and feel, bathing the interior in natural light. Additional glazed areas, like the steeply raked windscreen that extends well down the bonnet, further accentuate this ethereal feel.

To complement the extensive work that has gone into Ondelios’s aerodynamics, some of the car’s structural parts are made from natural flax fibre for greater recyclability.

Similarly, the body, chassis design and hybrid powertrain contribute decisively to protecting the environment.





This post has been edited by Coro: 11 Sep 2008, 23:17

Fugly.

Prea futurista!... Chiar si pentru Reno, care ne-a cam obisnuit cu masinute inaintea vremii lor...

Se poate sesiza, din profil, o oarecare forma ''pana" (sau picatura de apa in cadere, unul dintre cele mai aerodinamice profiluri..) dar, ma intreb, ca un novice aerodinamician, remurile create in spate, in linia finala care e aproximativ concava, oare nu vor frana masina mai mult decat un Clio sau Megane BiCorp?...
La care se adauga garda la sol destul de maricica (stiu, imi voi atrage oprobriul: e doar un concept, omule, ce vrei!?), deci fileurile de aer acumulate probabil vor contribui la crearea unei forte portante destul de mari, chiar si pentru un vehicul care pare ca are dimensiuni de SUV...

Si totusi, caroseria pare ca pluteste deasupra asfaltului. Gliseaza pur si simplu, sfidand gravitatia... Bine facut filmuletul...

In linii mari, e intersant conceptul. Dr, cum spunea un coleg mai devreme, sunt tare curios sa vad modelul de serie bazat pe conceptul asta...

This post has been edited by Adila16: 13 Sep 2008, 19:47

Prea futurista!... Chiar si pentru Reno, care ne-a cam obisnuit cu masinute inaintea vremii lor...

Se poate sesiza, din profil, o oarecare forma ''pana" (sau picatura de apa in cadere, unul dintre cele mai aerodinamice profiluri..) dar, ma intreb, ca un novice aerodinamician, remurile create in spate, in linia finala care e aproximativ concava, oare nu vor frana masina mai mult decat un Clio sau Megane BiCorp?...
La care se adauga garda la sol destul de maricica (stiu, imi voi atrage oprobriul: e doar un concept, omule, ce vrei!?), deci fileurile de aer acumulate probabil vor contribui la crearea unei forte portante destul de mari, chiar si pentru un vehicul care pare ca are dimensiuni de SUV...

Si totusi, caroseria pare ca pluteste deasupra asfaltului. Gliseaza pur si simplu, sfidand gravitatia... Bine facut filmuletul...

In linii mari, e intersant conceptul. Dr, cum spunea un coleg mai devreme, sunt tare curios sa vad modelul de serie bazat pe conceptul asta...

My friend..daca iti arat un rahat batut de vant fac pariu ca poti sa vb la fel si despre ala.No offens!

Asta e un concept care nu are nici o finalitate in vreo masina de strada.Si daca avea....care era problema?Crezi ca avea vreo unu nevoie de apasare aerodinamica?Mergea nea soferu in curba cu 180 si ii trebuiau 2.5 G?Iti dai seama ce nevoie intensa pentru apsare aerodinamica era pe un drum de munte?

Daca botu ala retezat ca un castravete ti se pare varful unei picaturi de apa in cadere....ti-ai ratat cariera.Chiar nu e o chestiune de finete sa simti ca botu ala arata ca o paine fara un colt.

Fac pariu ca la alea 3 tone ale masinii si la 300km/h tot mai are 2 tone pe sosea.

Vrajeli my friend..vrajeli

drag coefficient of 0.29 iti spune ceva ?

...si conceptul asta n-are 3 tone

Length (mm) - 4,805
Width (mm) - 1,998
Height (mm) - 1,605
Height with doors open (mm) - 2,230
Wheel base (mm) - 2,895
Front track (mm) - 1,690
Rear track (mm) - 1,720
Unladen weight (kg) - 1,452
Boot (dm3) 530

Technical data

Internal combustion engine - 2.0 dCi
Power in hp (kW) - 205 (150)
Maximum torque (Nm) - 450, from 1,700 to 3,800rpm
Electric motors - Two 20kW electric motors: one at the front and one at the rear
Power supply - 4kWh lithium-ion battery. Size: 40dm3. Weight: 50kg
Acceleration from 0 to 100kph (s) - 7.8
CO2 emissions, combined cycle fuel consumption - 120g/km, 4.5 litres/100 km
Transmission - Double-clutch seven-speed automatic transmission Internal combustion engine drive and electric motor drive
Tyres - 255/40 ZR23
Wheels - Diameter: 23". Width: 9"

Partners

G Studio - Bodywork
Michelin - Tyres
Samsung - Telephone for communication with vehicle
Mgs par Matérialise - Sintered parts


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inca odata. Chestiile laterale indica un pathfinder by renault?

drag coefficient of 0.29

Si cei cu asta?

un cx mic inseamna o rezistenta a aerului mai mica (adca are o aerodinamica foarte buna)

http://bgsoflex.com/airdragchart.html

Chiar si pentru "geniile" de la dep. de design Renault e prea de tot! Pacat de "continut", "ambalajul" e urat cu spume!

drag coefficient of 0.29

Si cei cu asta?

Adica ce " abera " nenea ala cu picatura in cadere, nu abera defapt asa de tare

Mai voi imi explicati ce stiu.Si in plus nici nu sunteti prea asi cum nici eu nu sunt.

Portanta este forta orientata in sus care ridica masina la viteze mari.Astfel ca la 200km/h o masina de 1.5 tone nu mai cantareste atat ci mult mai putin.La masinile de f1 spre exemplu apasarea aerodinamica e foarte mare.La viteze mari apsarea aerodinamica face ca greutatea sa fie mai mare in mers decat greutatea masinii stand pe loc.

De asta o masina ia curba mai bine decat alta pentru ca apasarea aerodinamica e mai mare.

Drag-ul este altceva.Inseamna rezistenta la inaintare.O forta e opusa directiei de mers si alta e perpendiculara.

E o confuzie cand multi spun..masina asta e mai aerodinamica decat aia.Unele masini cauta prin design o rezistenta cat mai mica altele o apasare cat mai mare.

Ideal ar fi rezistenta 0( probabil in vid) si apasare aerodinamica mare.
Sa spui ca o masina gliseaza e corect poate cand te referi la drift.

This post has been edited by Arhimede: 14 Sep 2008, 13:43

Toate masinile normale cauta o rezistenta la inaintare cat mai mica, alea cu apasare aerodinamica sunt doar alea sport, aproapela nici o masina normala nu cauta nimeni sa-i faca apasare, cu atat mai mult unui 4X4

"Daca botu ala retezat ca un castravete ti se pare varful unei picaturi de apa in cadere....ti-ai ratat cariera.Chiar nu e o chestiune de finete sa simti ca botu ala arata ca o paine fara un colt. "

Uite ce ai spus, iar omul ti-a argumentat ca in ciuda parerii tale masina aia are o forma aerodinamica si pt un suv are un cx senzational, evident ca e concept , evident ca nu o sa arata asa nimic de pe strada , dar...

First drive cu ondelios http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/fi...t_ondelios.html

Cred ca unii ar trebui sa fie mai cumpatati in a critica orice spune celalalt, doar e o discutie libera, nu un loc de dat in cap sau de a etala asa zisa ''desteptaciune''......oameni buni, toti incapem pe acest forum, si apoi parerea mea, apreciez ca e total diferit de ce sa mai produs, ma astept intotdeauna la Renault sa faca ''ciudatenii'', dar cam din toate ciudateniile lor s-a preluat cate ceva si la masinile de serie, de multe ori de firme concurente, asa ca asta se pare a fi progresul. Singura problema, si care ma scoate din tatani e ca astia fac masini cu utilizare peste 10, 20 ani, si pana atunci se uita de ele, se fac altele, tot asa. Mai bine ar cobora cu picioarele pe pamant in privinta design-ului. De mai fac asa masini, azi maine o sa scrie in cartea masinii si pe unde se intra, cum trebuie sa te asezi , care e fata....