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lucian_v
post 22 Mar 2008, 23:18
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Nu sunt un fan dacia / renault si nu am fost niciodata, dar sa iti cumperi in anul 2008 o masina care are mai putin de 4 stele la ncap mi se pare cel putin prostie si/sau inconstienta...

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post 23 Mar 2008, 00:04
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@mmi&g, penibil sa te lauzi fara macar a avea bani pentru a achizitiona masina pe care o lauzi ...


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post 23 Mar 2008, 07:50
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Eu unul mi-as cumpara Aveo daca as avea banii necesari. Bine, in momentul cumpararii l-as compara cu mai multe masini in aceiasi bani si ma voi decide asupra uneia. Criteriul de siguranta conteaza mai putin pentru mine. Si, cum vad destule Aveo pe strazi atat la noi cat si prin Bulgaria, vad ca nu e lumea chiar atat de speriata. Probabilitatea unui accident mortal tine mai mult de noroc decat de stelele pe care le are masina. Din partea mea sa aiba zero stele la euro ncap, dar sa stea perfect pe asfalt.


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post 23 Mar 2008, 10:11
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QUOTE(mmi&g @ 22 Mar 2008, 23:12)
Extraordinar ce revoltati sunt unii de existenta unei masini care iti ofera f multe la 9ooo e ,la o calitate superioara loganului.
      Pana la urma nu am sesizat nici un defect derajant la aveo  (spre deosebire de logan)asa ca ar ramane prioritatea mea daca as avea banii de achizitie.
      Ce tare,unii se leaga de stelele obtinute la impact-penibil pe forumul dacia
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de ce ar fi penibil? poate pentru chevrolet pentru ca a trecut atata timp si nu au facut nimic ca sa indrepte situatia? Uita-te la nissan, firma care se respecta si isi respecta clientii, au dat chix la euroncap insa in 2-3 saptamani au rezolvat situatia, reusind sa obtina un scor bunishor. In timp ce "mareata" firma chevrolet a facut ceva pe vietile clientilor lor, durandu-i in cot daca mor sau nu in timpul unui accident wink.gif


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post 23 Mar 2008, 17:11
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Pai chiar nu e vina lor....eu citesc si nu imi vine sa cred radmasa.gif


QUOTE(Laurentziu83 @ 23 Mar 2008, 07:50)
Criteriul de siguranta conteaza mai putin pentru mine.
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Asta e targetul lor....


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post 23 Mar 2008, 17:27
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corect, orice masina are un target. chevrolet a zis ca oricum nu pierd prea multe daca nu baga bani in imbunatatirea structurii de rezistenta a masinii, intr-un volan care se comporta k in caz de impact etc. Imi aduce aminte de o alta firma americana (imi scapa insa numele si modelul) care tot la fel a facut: a preferat sa faca o economie de cativa dolari cu toate ca pasagerii mureau arsi de vii in caz de accident.

respect pentru client ce sa spun wacko.gif

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post 23 Mar 2008, 17:28
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Bre aphopise, da esti obsedar rau de siguranta, dai in paranoia de-acu. tongue.gif
Sunt curios cum reactionezi cand vezi un tir ce vine de pe contrasens ca depaseste alt tir si nu mai termina odata depasirea.... atunci senzatii tari, chiar nu mai conteaza alea 5 stele...verzi... radmasa.gif

Si eu injur reno-ul ca a facut o economie de cativa euro si din cauza asta imi merge ambreiajul in trepte, si nu m-a chemat nimeni la service sa indreptam situatia, asa ca...tot aia e.

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post 23 Mar 2008, 17:28
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este vorba de un model de ford....am vazut si eu pe discovery


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post 23 Mar 2008, 17:31
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QUOTE(Laurentziu83 @ 23 Mar 2008, 17:28)
Bre aphopise, da esti obsedar rau de siguranta, dai in paranoia de-acu. tongue.gif
Sunt curios cum reactionezi cand vezi un tir ca depaseste alt tir si nu mai termina odata depasirea.... atunci senzatii tari, chiar nu mai conteaza alea 5 stele...verzi...  radmasa.gif

Si eu injur reno-ul ca a facut o economie de cativa euro si din cauza asta imi merge ambreiajul in trepte, si nu m-a chemat nimeni la service sa indreptam situatia, asa ca...tot aia e.
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da dom'le mori din cauza ambreiajului da atunci cand vine motorul si volanul peste tine nu mori icon_mrgreen.gif ca sa nu mai zic de tema favorita a celor cu kaveo: e o conspiratie dom'le a euroncapului impotriva chevroletului. acu poate imi raspunzi tu la o intrebare ca eu nu stiu raspunsul: de ce la nissan s-a putut sa se rezolve problema cu siguranta precara, in cateva saptamani si la chevrolet nu? smile.gif


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post 23 Mar 2008, 17:34
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I don't give a f*** about it. tongue.gif

MSRP mai pe romaneste.

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post 23 Mar 2008, 17:35
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bravo smile.gif da esti de acord ca arata nesimtirea fabricantului fata de clienti? smile.gif mai ales cand tine de chestii de viata si de moarte..

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post 23 Mar 2008, 17:45
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Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price?... blink.gif


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post 23 Mar 2008, 18:34
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post 23 Mar 2008, 18:38
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Whoa... Enciclopedie mica si ambulanta ce esti tu wink.gif Nu, Sid e dintr-un banc al colegului L!nux, care se termina astfel : "- I want to succeed! - Hi, I am Sid!" radmasa.gif

On topic: Mie Aveo nu-mi inspira nu stiu ce incredere...

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On topic : mi-e nu-mi place cum arata smile.gif asa ca am exclus varianta achizitionarii inainte sa ajung la partea cu siguranta happy.gif


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post 23 Mar 2008, 19:05
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Si daca eu m-am dat cu Spark-ul si e mai bun ca Opel Astra ? La consum !


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post 23 Mar 2008, 19:10
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Daca tu compari matizul (ca sparkul e un matiz mai stilizat) cu opel astra...nu cred ca mai are sens discutia...dar fiecare cu ale lui


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post 23 Mar 2008, 19:20
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QUOTE(axabrt @ 23 Mar 2008, 19:05)
Si daca eu m-am dat cu Spark-ul si e mai bun ca Opel Astra ? La consum !
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Si Loganul meu consuma mai putin decat Bugatti Veyron, dar asta nu inseamna ca e mai bun tongue.gif


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Structural deformation and spot-weld release indicated that the bodyshell had been overloaded and had become unstable. Rearward movement of the A-pillar was penalised. Movement of the steering-wheel presented a hazard to the driver's head. The driver's chest made contact with the steering-wheel, distorting the rim. Compression of the driver's chest indicated an unacceptably high risk of life-threatening injury. As a result, the final star of the adult occupant rating is struck through. Structures in the dashboard represented a potential hazard to the knees and femurs of the driver and passenger. No points were awarded for the protection offered to the feet and ankles.

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The passenger airbag can be disabled to allow a rearward-facing child restraint to be placed in the front passenger's seat. However, the deactivation switch is not clearly marked and information regarding the status of the airbag is not sufficiently clear. The presence of the ISOFIX anchorages in the rear outboard seats was not clearly indicated.

Cu toate ca masina are centuri de siguranta pretensionate si cu limitare a efortului, 6 airbag-uri, totusi nu reuseste decat o stea jumatate. Suduri care cedeaza la impact, stalpul A cedeaza si el ... si asta la doar 64km/h. Masina asta parca e din carton. blink.gif


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Eu chiar nu inteleg de ce va agitati. Aveo e evident varza in ceea ce priveste siguranta. Dar poate sunt oameni carora le place riscul... adrenalina... radmasa.gif


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Geely... sau copia aia de Rolls Royce, care mie imi aminteste de masinutele de pompieri chinezesti cu care ma jucam cand eram mic...


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Nu stiu cum sa zic ... mai bine imi cumpar doua logane, decat sa imi iau un aveo.


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post 23 Mar 2008, 21:10
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post 24 Mar 2008, 08:34
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pai evident fiecare masina are plusurile si minusurile ei.
Pot sa fiu de acord ca Dacia e mai buna decat Aveo, fiindca este fabricata aici.
Sincer nu imi place aveo, nu imi place nici kia, nici fiatul albea si altele de acelasi pret.

Imi place Hyundai ala I 30 aduce a Toyota model vechi dupa care eram inebunit.
Imi mai plac opelurile si mi-as mai lua oricand vreo 2-3 daca as avea bani. Si vechi sa fie.

Bunicu a avut KAdett si va spun cu mana pe inima ca masina aia ingropa cate logane vreti. La 670.000 km inca dadea clasa la confort si tinuta de drum multor masini romanesti si era fabricatie '92. Doar ca l-am adus din Germania, atunci cand inca in germania gaseai MASINI. Asa ca discutiile pot fi continuate la nesfarsit. Imi aduc aminte ca treceam prin '94 pe langa alte masini pe bucuresti ploiesti cu 160 ca racheta si inca traiesc sa povestesc asta. Aia aveau Berline si se tarau cu 100 la ora tare mandri de ei...eh. A fost odata. Vremuri misto. Dupa aia si-a luat Volvo pe motorina si s-a dus dracu distractia. Masina de pensionar, vapor, ala se taraia cu 90 pe ora deabia. A facut si cu ala vreo 100.000 km da eu nu m-am impacat cu masina. Asa ca am trecut din nou la 1300, care era mai buna ca Volvo. De ce ? Nu era mai sigura, da erau senzatii ...

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