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post 31 Mar 2008, 18:51
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QUOTE(giullia24 @ 31 Mar 2008, 17:50)
sa ti-o spui asa Deceneus: or sa regrete foarte mult cei care-s vor lua Sandero la aparitia Cross-ului!....nu se stie inca ce motor o sa-i puna astia pe versiunea Dacia dar cred ca sunteti constienti ca masina va fi lansata pentru prima data sub numele de Renault in Brazilia....
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Binie, no... Amu vorba cantecului: "Cine are noroc are..." radmasa.gif

Pfoooai mai da' ce ma interesaza pa minie cumu-i cu aia care isi iau Sandero... Sa hie sanatosi domniile lor.

Mi-s curios de aspecte legate de spatiu interior si portbagaj, calitatea vopselei (inca oftez cand ma gandesc la berlina mea... singurele ei intalniri cu serivce-ul au fost din cauza de motiv de tinichigerieee...)...

Motorizarea e importanta desigur, dar banuiesc ca va avea totusi cateva versiuni alternative.

"Deci"... smile.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif
Cine stie mai bagati pe foc ... Mere si pa privata, ca sa ne ferim de ochii vigilenti ai unora interesati de galagii de fond...


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post 2 Apr 2008, 07:41
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Pentru comparatie ...

2 Apr 2008, 09:19:
QUOTE(bobo_slz @ 1 Apr 2008, 17:03)
La o privire mai ne-amanuntita si grosiera asa, nu pare a fi sistemul 4x4 de la kangoo si mai degraba ceva gen nissan

Qashqai sigur nu este ...
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2 Apr 2008, 09:27:
Eu as bate mai mult catre kangoo ...

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post 2 Apr 2008, 13:27
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Intr-adevar, suspensiile de la Dacie nu corespund cu suspensiile de pe Qashqai, dupa cum se vede clar in spate.
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Pe de alta parte, insa, nici fata nu prea seamana cu Kangoo. Mai degraba Kangoo si Qashqai au puncte comune.
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In ceea ce priveste platforma de sub Dacie, la nivelul ampatamentului nu pare sa corespunda nici cu Qashqai, nici cu Kangoo. Mai degraba as zice ca e ampatamentul de MCV.
Astea le zic si eu ca nespecialist, dar daca are cineva mai multe date e binevenit sa ma contrazica.


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post 2 Apr 2008, 13:41
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Ai suprapus doua poze mai demult ... si acum nu ai bagat nici macar putin contrast? nedumerire.gif

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Si nici a scenic 1 nu miroase ...

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PS. Ce ai pus in ultima poza este o suspensie mai scumpa care nu o sa fie niciodata pe Logan.

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post 2 Apr 2008, 14:06
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Cu suprapusul m-am descurcat mai bine, in calitate de amator, iar acum n-am avut timp sa imi mai incerc mana pe fotografiile noi. Iaka explicatia!
PS. Stiu. N-am pus-o pentru ca ar ajunge vreodata la Logan sleep.gif

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post 2 Apr 2008, 14:13
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din postul 133 cred ca mai degraba ar fi scenic 2 4x4 judecand dupa haion...


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post 2 Apr 2008, 15:46
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QUOTE(Bulldog @ 1 Apr 2008, 17:59)
Nu este aceeasi masina din pozele lui 2dor. Parca prin cea din poza lui Bion era pentru a studia cum se comporta o caroserie mai scurta, iar cea din pozele lui 2dor e mai inalta, suspensii modificate eventual sistem 4x4.
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post 2 Apr 2008, 22:33
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parerea mea aphophis, este ca o sa vedem muletul de la SUV foarte curand prin Mioveni, avand-se in vedere faptul ca peste un an va fi lansat. Va dati seama ca o sa fie un Logan MCV cu suspensii, punti, anvelope si genti modificate si nu o berlina; asa ca idee o sa arate apox. ca Loganul alb de mai sus.
Oricum, aici va fi postata pentru prima data poza cu acel mulet si acest topic "va exploda", asa cum s-a intamplat si cu topicul despre Sandero la aparitia acelor poze.

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post 2 Apr 2008, 23:03
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nu inteleg de ce ii zici mulet? nu e mule? de la englezescul mule=catar, pentru ca e o combinatie intre o platforma noua si o caroserie a unui model existent. de unde t-ul de la sfarsit?

LE: gata nu-mi mai raspunde, m-am edificat singur (si mi-am dat seama ca sunt prost mad.gif ). mulet=catar in franceza.

LLE: mama lor de neologisme.

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post 3 Apr 2008, 11:23
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Un pic si de x-trail ...

PS. Ca sa completez poza pusa de Alfred ....

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post 3 Apr 2008, 13:29
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Ironick, suspensia asta spate cum ti se pare in comparatie cu ”catarul”?
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Destul de apropiata ...

La suspensia fata pare ca bara de torsiune nu mai este prinsa de bascula ... adica pseudo, nu cum este acum

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post 3 Apr 2008, 14:23
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QUOTE(bion @ 2 Apr 2008, 16:46)
Photo shopu` sireacul. Uita-te la locatia in care sunt facute pozele, imaginile sunt identice chiar si pozitia masinilor. Au lucrat doar pe poza masinii biggrin.gif
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Eu din poze vad ca nu sunt identice, basca ca sunt mai multe poze din diferite unghiuri cu Loganul crossover si se vede clar ca sunt reale pozele.

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post 3 Apr 2008, 14:59
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Daca pot reformula: nu-i asa ca seamana?
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post 3 Apr 2008, 15:34
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Doar ca nu e platforma C. E ce ai zis tu, dar prima generatie (platforma FF-S).


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post 3 Apr 2008, 15:38
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Alfred, dar poza ta de la ce masina e? ca nu am prins faza asta. mellow.gif

LE: ai raspuns deja, multumesc

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Nissan X-Trail. Prima generatie. Actuala are aceeasi platforma cu Qashqai, noul Megane si altele.


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post 3 Apr 2008, 18:45
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acum 2 minunte au dat si la ProTV pozele cu mullet-ul acela de SUV (Logan-ul alb de mai sus) biggrin.gif si directorul de comunicare de la Dacia a confirmat ca se lucreaza intens la acest proiect......pacat ca au dat acele poze cu Qashqai'ul modificate in photo-shop...... sleep.gif

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Interesant, garda la sol mi-se pare disproportionata cu masina, dar de ce au trecut la 5 prezoane? smile.gif


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post 3 Apr 2008, 19:11
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pai n-ai auzit ca alea cu 4 prezoane gata, se dau la casat... tongue.gif


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Mda o sa fie o porcarie precum Loganul. Parerea mea biggrin.gif
@dbcooper: Pe langa faptul ca alea cu 4 prezoane se dau la casat, daca masina nu iti foloseste euro 8, respectiv 90% energie eoliana nu mai ai voie sa circuli cu ea.


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Poate e stupida intrebarea, dar risc:
- Actuala punte nu poate fi echipata cu 4x4?
Stiu ca e o punte semiindependenta dar stiu ca a existat VW Golf 3 echipat asa.


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@dizzy: eu cred ca asta este solutia corecta avand in vedere ca se vrea construirea unui SUV in adevaratul sens al cuvantului (chiar daca low-cost): sa iei o platforma care deja si-a amortizat costurile, o platforma foarte buna cum era cea a fostului X-trail, si sa o folosesti pe un model ce vrea sa pastreze costurile de proiectare cat mai jos. (hmm, unde am mai vazut eu strategia asta... ? intrebare.gif )

btw: ce, golf 3 avea un SUV full-size facut pe platforma lui?


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Cat de buna (capabila) este platforma asta de X-trail 1?


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Xtrail a fost mai bun decat multe SUV-uri cu fite in cap. M-as bucura sa fie pe aceasta platforma.
Golf3 nu a avutr un SUV pe platforma dar a avut tractiune integrala syncro cu cuplaj Haldex din cate imi amintesc

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