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post 9 Apr 2013, 22:05
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QUOTE(Ov @ 9 Apr 2013, 22:00)
vopseaua mata e mai putin sensibila la temperatura smile.gif
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La care temperatura?

Scazuta sau ridicata? wacko.gif


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post 9 Apr 2013, 22:06
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Vorbeam de motor. Evident ca ridicata. Am impresia ca o vopsea lucioasa daca este expusa la temperatura ridicata se matuieste. Prin urmare mai bine folosesti de la inceput vopsea mata smile.gif


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http://www.casameasaratoga.ro/cumpara/vops...d-400ml-1865807

Deci? Ramane principiul prin care cu o vopsea lucioasa nu respira motorul? Sau cum era..


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post 9 Apr 2013, 23:25
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Asta cu respiratul este o aberatie.

Nu ma credeti, veniti sa va arat motoare industriale de puteri inzecite, care functioneaza la regimuri termice extrem de dure (static, in desert sau in sala masinilor la vapoare sau platforme marine), vopsite cu vopsea lucioasa, vopsea care nu se matuieste din cauza caldurii.


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Se pare ca au raspuns colegii mei si le multumesc. biggrin.gif
Eu mai vin cu mici adaugari :
- daca ai posibilitatea sableaza blocul motor si ai mult de castigat,iti pun eu poze cu motorul care il reconditionez acuma si vezi cum arata un bloc motor sablat.
Referitor la tablita cu seria poti sa faci in felul urmator : iei un burghiu de 2 sau de 3 si dai gaura exact in mijlocul nitulul (aluminiu) lasand din inertie ca masina de gaurit sa merga ca sa iti dai seama cand ajungi la blocul motor( sa nu-l gauresti)apoi cu un burgiu mai mare frezezi si capatul nitului,operatiune care dureaza max.5 min.

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post 10 Apr 2013, 08:53
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eu nu am zis ca nu "respira" smile.gif
Am zis ca-i mai rezistenta vopseaua mata decat aia lucioasa si ca aia lucioasa la temperatura inalta se poate matui.


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post 10 Apr 2013, 10:20
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QUOTE(BTL gordini @ 10 Apr 2013, 06:55)
Referitor la tablita cu seria poti sa faci in felul urmator : iei un burghiu de 2 sau de 3 si dai gaura exact in mijlocul nitulul (aluminiu) lasand din inertie ca masina de gaurit sa merga ca sa iti dai seama cand ajungi la blocul motor( sa nu-l gauresti)apoi cu un burgiu mai mare frezezi si capatul nitului,operatiune care dureaza max.5 min.


Si ca sa pui placuta inapoi de unde iei alte nituri la fel? Ce fel de capuitor folosesti ca sa nu deteriorezi capul nitului?
De desfacut ii lesne, dar cu facutul la loc ii problema... biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Ov @ 10 Apr 2013, 08:53)
eu nu am zis ca nu "respira" smile.gif
Am zis ca-i mai rezistenta vopseaua mata decat aia lucioasa si ca aia lucioasa la temperatura inalta se poate matui.


Ov, un alt coleg a zis-o...
Pe de alta parte nici afirmatia cu matuirea vopselei la temperaturi inalte nu este general valabila.
Gandeste-te ca temperatura blocului motor nu poate atinge decat accidental, temperatura de 100 grd C. Cate motoare fierbinti in conditii normale pe al caror bloc motor sa sfaraie apa, ai vazut pana acum? O vopsea de calorifer de calitate, poate face fata cu brio la temperaturi pana in 100 grd.C... matuirea si patarea vopselei este cauzata de vaporii de ulei, benzina si/sau motorina care afecteaza in timp aspectul vopselei.

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post 10 Apr 2013, 22:45
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QUOTE(BTL gordini @ 10 Apr 2013, 07:55)
Se pare ca au raspuns colegii mei si le multumesc. biggrin.gif
Eu mai vin cu mici adaugari :
- daca ai posibilitatea sableaza blocul motor si ai mult de castigat,iti pun eu poze cu motorul care il reconditionez acuma si vezi cum arata un bloc motor sablat.
Referitor la tablita cu seria poti sa faci in felul urmator : iei un burghiu de 2 sau de 3 si dai gaura exact in mijlocul nitulul (aluminiu) lasand din inertie ca masina de gaurit sa merga ca sa iti dai seama cand ajungi la blocul motor( sa nu-l gauresti)apoi cu un burgiu mai mare frezezi si capatul nitului,operatiune care dureaza max.5 min.

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s,d

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multumesc tuturor ca m-ati ajutat , posibilitate de sablat nu am din pacate numai peria de sarma si panza abraziva , astazi am spalat blocul cu benzina si am curatat semicuzinetii lagarului palier ( dupa ce mi-am strambat T de la tubulara sa desfac suruburile) , de vopsit il vopsesc mai incolo acum important este sa scot o data masina din service smile.gifsmile.gif
mai am o intrebare , suruburile de la biele , volanta , si de la lagarele paliere trebuie stranse cu cheie dinamometrica sau merge si fara ?????
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post 10 Apr 2013, 22:55
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Musai cu cheia dinamometrica!


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post 19 Apr 2013, 05:49
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Reconditionare delcou Ducellier..



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post 23 Apr 2013, 11:25
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Reconditionari stema UAP...

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Tu ori te plictisesti in casa ori n-ai serviciu. Au iesit incredibil!

Ce vopsea ai turnat pe fundal?

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Tu ori te plictisesti in casa ori n-ai serviciu. Au iesit incredibil!

Ce vopsea ai turnat pe fundal?

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Nu sunt pers. care sa stea in casa, acesta e felul meu iar varianta cu serviciul depinde de situatii ,dar si cu sau fara servici nu schimba cu nimic datele problemei.
Vopsea pe baza de diluant, uscare rapida.


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post 25 Apr 2013, 20:47
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Ce super au iesit si astea aplauze.gif


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Inca un motor reconditionat .....

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post 21 May 2013, 07:35
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omule, esti tare, ai depus ceva munca presupun, dar a iesit super aplauze.gif


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post 21 May 2013, 13:52
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BTL gordini-felicitari pentru lucrari,vroiam sa te intreb de unde fac si eu rost de un capac de culbutori ca in ultimul tau post?


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post 23 May 2013, 06:25
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Multumesc.

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QUOTE(BTL gordini @ 19 Apr 2013, 06:49)
Reconditionare delcou Ducellier..
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acest delcou este de renault 12/dacia 1300? ca am si unul asemanator si vreau sa il schimb pe ala de 1100 care este pus pe 1300...


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Delcoul este de R12 respectiv dacia 1300, spune-mi exact ce scrie pe el cap-coada si atunci iti spun de care este exact.


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post 26 May 2013, 20:06
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Vad ca ai depus ceva munca la moatoarele astea. Am si eu o intrebare , ce faci cu motoarele aste , le vinzi sa le pui la pstrat?


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post 26 May 2013, 20:14
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Cam cat costa o reconditionare d-asta?


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Doar ultimul motor postat este a unui prieten , iar celelalte sunt la mine(in garaj,pe 2 masini puse,etc.)Referitor la manopera incepe de la 500 lei restaurare complecta si in functie de piese anexe putem discuta.


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Hmmm... ma gandeam la mai mult de 500 de lei (sincer, m-as fi gandit la +1000 de lei) biggrin.gif . Oricum, ce faci tu, nu cred ca face multa lume! Spor in continuare!

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500 lei manopera + materiale (gen vopsea, suruburi, piulite, papuci electrici...)?


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post 27 May 2013, 17:59
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Multumesc de aprecieri, referitor la materiale (gen vopsea, suruburi, piulite, papuci electrici...) valoarea este mica in jur de cativa zeci de lei referitor la toate materialele pe care le folosesc ca motorul sa fie echipat complect, vopsit,cosmetizat,etc.La toate aceste lucruri reconditioneaza inclusiv toate filetele din blocul motor ,chiuloasa,etc. , nu pun suruburi noi doar de aspect.
Va mai prezint cateva piese de Dacia 1100 pe care le-am reconditionat acuma.



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post 27 May 2013, 18:11
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Colegu',

Te rog sa nu "indoctrinezi lumea cu nepriceperea ta" radmasa.gif

Acolo mai ai piese de R8 prima varianta si de R10. Si-un concubinaj intre Stop Transpar si UAMT...

Nu toate sunt de sutica, dar se potrivesc la ea!

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imi poti spune si mie daca te rog cuplurile de strangere la motor de 1.3 la urmatoarele : la palier( lagarele paliere) , la volanta ,la chiulasa ,si la biele ( la capacele de la biele ) smile.gif???
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Cuplu de strangere cheie dinamometrica:

- chiuloasa - la rece 55-65 Nm
-la cald 65 Nm

-capace palier - 55-65 Nm
- capace biela - 40-45 Nm
-volanta -50 Nm

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Am si eu o mica intrebare:din fericire,si totodata din pacate mi-a trecut prin mana un motor reconditionat de mult,avea rombul pe bloc,si alte "inscriptii' sub pompa de alimentare,dar pe dreapta am gasit VL ce inseamna ?dar nu am gasit anul care de obicei era scris pe dreapta...Oricum nu ati dori sa stiti ce face motorul... mad.gif sad.gif saracu mere fara ulei si are parte de un sofer mai vitezoman si tantalau sad.gif dry.gif mad.gif

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