Kilometer (and speedometer if affected), Kilometer stops to count driven kilometers
Kilometer (and speedometer if affected), Kilometer stops to count driven kilometers
logica |
5 Sep 2007, 07:06
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Membru incepator Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 4 September 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia |
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alecsz99 |
5 Sep 2007, 07:30
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 18 February 07 From: Bucuresti, Romania |
My guess is that the connecting cable to the gear box is damaged and not functional at all times. You can have a visual inspection of the area by removing the plastic cover of the engine or you can just leave it up to the mechanical guys.
Anyway would be nice to keep us posted of the problem and how you managed to solve it. |
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marksman |
5 Sep 2007, 08:14
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Post mortem nihil est Group: Members Posts: 7.538 Joined: 1 November 04 From: sat |
There is no cable from the gearbox to the speedometer. The instrument panel is electronic.
I suspect there is a problem with the panel itself. AFAIK some users in the Romanian section also reported that for a brief moment the rpm and speed indicators have dropped to zero. The solution was to change the instrument panel. |
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logica |
5 Sep 2007, 08:46
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Membru incepator Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 4 September 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia |
Ah, so it won't be cheap :'( Complete new speedometer is around 380e, only the part wo. price of machanics to change it. But I think spedometer is just affected by that kilometer isn't counting driven kilometers and one multipling with 0 (zero) in equation resulting that speed is 0 (zero) km/h. I just hope that isn't complete board computer broken :S. Is there some info on internet that that part has built-in error?
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Logan
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deconectat |
5 Sep 2007, 10:31
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Membru cu avatar de sezon Group: Members Posts: 1.116 Joined: 11 January 05 From: Brasov |
I may be saying something stupid, but I think I read something about this on the forum. The speed info goes through the radio's connector (a green wire, actually 2 wires on the same pin). Maybe you should check if those wires are firmly attached.
LE: I found the topic (in romanian) here. It says the speed info goes from the gearbox to the dashboard through a green wire. The wire is also used for the speed info for the radio (the volume rises as you go faster). You should check pin 1 of the iso connector from the radio. You should see 2 green wires there. Just check if they are firmly attached. It seems this is a common problem. If you changed the radio, just disconnect the 2 wires from the connector (but leave them connected together); it seems some cd players use that wire for something else and this may be a cause for your problem. This post has been edited by valentin.dumitran: 5 Sep 2007, 11:20 |
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free_fiber |
5 Sep 2007, 13:21
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 1.555 Joined: 25 October 04 From: Bucuresti |
You should also check all the wires from the speed translator in the gearbox.
I had this problem once and i figured out that the black cable from the translator (ground) was ripped. |
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Logan Laureate 1.5dci 85CP
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alecsz99 |
5 Sep 2007, 14:09
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 18 February 07 From: Bucuresti, Romania |
QUOTE(Illusi0n @ 5 Sep 2007, 09:14) There is no cable from the gearbox to the speedometer. The instrument panel is electronic. I suspect there is a problem with the panel itself. AFAIK some users in the Romanian section also reported that for a brief moment the rpm and speed indicators have dropped to zero. The solution was to change the instrument panel. Unfortunately you are wrong. There is a cable connecting the gearbox (cable meaning not literally a cable but an electric contact cable) connecting the gearbox to the car’s computer. This cable can be seen by removing the plastic cover of the engine. It can also be removed on purpose, thus the kilometers you make with the car will remain a little secret. While this cable is unplugged the speed and the kilometers you are doing will not be shown, however the rpm will be active. All the best! |
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g100sic |
5 Sep 2007, 14:53
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 4 January 07 From: Serbia |
What happens with the reading of the km indicator after the break, does it pick up counting where it stopped, od does it make up for the "lost" distance?
In the first case the problem is probably the loose connection from the sensor in the gearbox or the sensor itself may be broken. In the second case the problem is probably in the dashboard. |
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logica |
5 Sep 2007, 15:07
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Membru incepator Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 4 September 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia |
Driven kilometers are lost for ever :S (~250-300 for now) I tried with breaking, driving over bumps on road, acceleration, killing the ignition and starting the car again...nothing helped. It just goes "on" and "off" at random time. It's only happend one time with cold engine in the morning, and usually it's happend after some time of driving...
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Logan
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g100sic |
5 Sep 2007, 17:00
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 4 January 07 From: Serbia |
As I said, this behaviour almost certanly indicates a malfunction BEFORE the signal is fed from the gearbox to the computer. There is nothing wrong in my opinion with your dashboard. My advice is that you don't fall for that if in the service they tell you that it must be replaced.
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deconectat |
5 Sep 2007, 17:12
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Membru cu avatar de sezon Group: Members Posts: 1.116 Joined: 11 January 05 From: Brasov |
Did you check the wire I told you about? I'm almost sure that's your problem.
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xcss |
5 Sep 2007, 18:11
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Born to Be Epic Group: Members Posts: 1.669 Joined: 24 August 07 |
I had the same problem with my old R25. First you have to check the speed sensor plugged into the gearbox, and after that the integrity of the cable alecsz99 wrote about. Only after these steps start to think about a faulty dashboard. In my case, the problem was the horrendously bad connections in the dashboard.
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nh1980ro |
5 Sep 2007, 21:10
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Membru Group: Members Posts: 3.612 Joined: 7 February 07 From: Togo-Togo. |
Also you can check the connector itself from the speed sensor. If the conector is dirty, then the speedometer will funtion from time to time. Try to spray some electrical contact cleaner on that connector and then see if the problem is still there.
Maybe some of the Logan owners can help you with a picture of that connector. This post has been edited by nh1980ro: 5 Sep 2007, 21:11 |
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logica |
6 Sep 2007, 09:33
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Membru incepator Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 4 September 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia |
Thx guys for lots of advices and help, I am working in the office every day I will report results as soon as I check these wires or get back from service on monday. I will post report/feedback for sure, so others can know what to do in the same situation.
This post has been edited by logica: 6 Sep 2007, 09:34 |
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novauto |
9 Sep 2007, 22:06
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Membru incepator Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 13 July 05 From: Serbia |
QUOTE(nh1980ro @ 5 Sep 2007, 21:10) Also you can check the connector itself from the speed sensor. If the conector is dirty, then the speedometer will funtion from time to time. Try to spray some electrical contact cleaner on that connector and then see if the problem is still there. Maybe some of the Logan owners can help you with a picture of that connector. Vehicle speed sensor is component nr. 250. I hope this is helpful. Attached File(s) S19.PDF ( 1mb ) Number of downloads: 766 |
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logica |
10 Sep 2007, 15:05
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Membru incepator Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 4 September 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia |
Today in service thay fixed the problem, defect part was SENSOR KM 770 part number 77 00 418 919 (like small plastic trumpet 8cm long) and it was relatively cheap 80e. I didn't write but on friday orange indicator right of accumulator indicator on dashboard lighted on so I stoped the car by the road. After consultation with service by mobile I continued my trip, and today went to service. They said that both problem kilometer and orange indicator ware connected and affected because of that defected sensor. Now I will closely monitor to see if problem occure again. Thx a lot for help guys!
This post has been edited by logica: 10 Sep 2007, 15:24 |
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xcss |
10 Sep 2007, 16:40
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Born to Be Epic Group: Members Posts: 1.669 Joined: 24 August 07 |
Glad to hear you solved your problem!
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Bladerunnercro |
30 Dec 2018, 12:08
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Hi
Great help. Do you maybe have picture where is speed sensor for Sandero three cilindra engine. Or which plastic to take down on engine to disconnect speed sensor. Use company car over the weekend. Thanks for help. Have a happy new 2019. |
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Sandero
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