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sik
post 24 Jan 2007, 22:17
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PAPUCUL 1.9 DIESL TRACTIUNE FATA CE GRUP SI RAPOARTE ARE????
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post 24 Jan 2007, 22:24
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la 100km/h @3000rpm 5 gear:) ce rap are;)?


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post 25 Jan 2007, 07:33
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post 25 Jan 2007, 17:37
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post 27 Jan 2007, 00:42
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LIVIU STI CE RAPORT ARE CUTIA DE PAPUC DIESEL 1.9 ?
MAR INTERESA RAP TREPTEI V


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post 27 Jan 2007, 07:44
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Din câte știu eu papucul diesel are cutie de reno, sau mă-nșel huh.gif .


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post 27 Jan 2007, 08:11
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Te inseli. Cred ca are 0.86 in a cincea.


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post 27 Jan 2007, 08:58
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Nu știu, mă gândeam că motorul nu se potrivește cu cutia la îmbinări, și nici nu m-am uitat prea atent sub capota unui papuc dizel.


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post 27 Jan 2007, 10:17
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Ba se potriveste ajutat putin, tocmai de aia au papucurile diesel plasticul ala pe capota, pentru ca e pus motorul longitudinal sa mearga cu cutia. Daca il puneau transversal, incapea fara inaltarea aia, dar nu se potrivea la cutie.


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post 27 Jan 2007, 10:28
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... Cum sa se monteze transversal??? Sunt niste lonjeroane p-acolo care ar cam "incurca". Cutia de diesel e cea de dacie cu alta carcasa la ambreiaj.


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post 27 Jan 2007, 12:11
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Parerea mea este ca e o pacaleala cu plasticul acela.La reclama nu v-ati gandit???lumea se intreaba de ce e plasticul acela si de curiosi se uita ce este sub capota .Cand colo ce sa vada pe capacu filtrului scrie renault.Deci!!!! Scuze pentru abatere de la subiect !


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post 27 Jan 2007, 13:57
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S-ar inchide capota fara plasticul respectiv? nu cred...


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post 27 Jan 2007, 14:09
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Eu am pus aceasta intrebare pt ca eu am o cutie de papuc diesel montata pe dacie berlina din 91; dar in tr V nu prea trage deloc la 3000rpm am cam 95km/h ceeaa ce mi si pare f putin; ma gandeam sa incep a schimb ceva prin ea
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post 27 Jan 2007, 15:34
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"argon" Daca vroiau neaparat bagau motorul.asa cum noi facem atatea modificari masinilor fara sa se vada ,asa puteau si ei.E vorba de politica si de imagine!!! eu am o dacie cu motor de wv 1.6 d si nu a trebuit sa modific capota sa-l fac sa incapa.


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post 27 Jan 2007, 18:50
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Da, puteau să modifice filtrul de aer, dar asta a fost preferința lor, nu cred că era mare inginerie să proiecteze altă carcasă pentru filtru.


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post 28 Jan 2007, 00:41
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hei aici e vorba de tipuri de cutii nu de capote...


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post 28 Jan 2007, 13:18
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QUOTE(sik @ 27 Jan 2007, 14:09)
Eu am pus aceasta intrebare pt ca eu am o cutie de papuc diesel montata pe dacie berlina din 91; dar in tr V nu prea trage deloc la 3000rpm am cam 95km/h ceeaa ce mi si pare f putin; ma gandeam sa incep a schimb ceva prin ea
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E f simplu. Papucul are roti f mari. Pneuri de 175 profil inalt si jante de 14 inch. Pt a compensa rotile mari, in cutie grupul conic e mai scurt. Probabil 8x33 in loc de obisnuitul 9x34 de la berline / breakuri.

Edit: totusi, ceva e ciudat... Cutia are si cuplajul vitezometrului adecvat rotilor mari. In vreme ce tu pe berlina ai rotile mai mici. Ca urmare, viteza ta reala e chiar mai mica decat cea indicata de vitezometru... sad.gif

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post 28 Jan 2007, 13:57
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nu e m mica; atata e; am verificat cu cronometrul intre borne de pe autostrada si am calculat 96, ceva; da ce ai zis tu teoretic e adevarat da vad ca in practica se intampla ceva ciudat unsure.gif
sami pun roti m mari? blush.gif
asta ar fi ideea?


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post 28 Jan 2007, 14:01
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Nu, ca omori planetarele. Fara sa tinem cont de implicatiile legale. Ideea ar fi sa inlocuiesti grupul conic si daca e cazul si angrenajul de la cablu...


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post 30 Jan 2007, 23:58
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pai dc schimb grupul e ca si cum as schimba cutia; asai?
cam cat mar duce toata afacerea?


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post 31 Jan 2007, 07:47
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Pinionul de atac e solidar cu arborele secundar si nou costa de te rupe. Coroana diferentialului e scumpa rau si ea. Manopera daca n-o faci tu e scumpa la randul ei (demontare si desfacere cutie, inlocuire piese, reglaje). O afacere ar fi sa ai garajul tau, sa te pricepi si sa ai piesele necesare SH. Altfel, vezi-ti de treaba. wink.gif


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post 1 Feb 2007, 00:06
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mutley multumnesc pt incurajari; doar pinionu de tr V cu un raport m bun nu e posibil? c ap mine acolo ma doare la a V-a


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post 1 Feb 2007, 08:33
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Pinioanele de la tr a 5-a sint ambele demontabile, deci da, acolo e unicul punct in care poti schimba raportul cu cheltuieli minime. Se achizitioneaza ambele pinioane, si cel de pe "primar" si cel de pe "secundar".


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post 1 Feb 2007, 08:49
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Modificare facuta si de mine de altfel. Pret: 1 mil ambele. Manopera - destul de scumpa tre' sa fie dac-o faci in service. E destul de mare chinuiala.

Dar mai intai tre' sa te convingi ca momentan ai raportul scurt.


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post 2 Feb 2007, 23:12
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daca scot capacu din spatele cutiei pot sami dau seama ce raport are? are ceva dupa care pot recunoaste un raport de ex un nr de dinti ceva?


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post 3 Feb 2007, 20:56
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post 5 Feb 2007, 08:57
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Vezi ce cod ai pe cutie ...si cauti in manual ... la nova scrie 510-03 si apar in catre toare specificatiile necesare ...E03.jpg ( Size: 142.59k ) Number of downloads: 971
si din ce scrie in carte inteleg ca nova are cel mai mic raport la cutia de viteze in a 5 a adica 0.76 cam ce inseamna asta


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post 18 Mar 2007, 22:33
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QUOTE(mad toz @ 18 Mar 2007, 23:33)
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Acelasi tip am si eu. Banuiesc cuplu conic este 9x34, (la 3000rpm in tr.5 am 115km/ora -raport 0.86:1)

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