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post 9 Apr 2012, 20:47
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Multumesc Catalin.

Nu vrea nimeni franele de R19?


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post 14 Apr 2012, 15:48
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Franele de spate cu disc inca sunt la vanzare. Se mai po testa saptamana asta pe masina mea


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post 15 Apr 2012, 19:02
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Improvizatie : frana pe spate cu discuri, partea a2a, aproape de montajul final.

Saptamana asta am facut urmatoarele :
- proba statica a intregului ansamblu fuzete/etrieri/discuri
- izolat bine cu banda de hartie etrierii, portetrierii si fuzetele
- tratat cu zinc
- vopsit etrierii cu vopsea albastra, speciala pentru aceasta aplicatie
- montat garniturile noi, asamblat etrierii
- gresat bine culisele cu vaselina ceramica (+1400 grC)
- achizitionat si montat placute de frana TRW
- achizitionat si montat aerisitoare noi

Dupa atata bibileala, oare mai poate spune cineva ca se face improvizatie aici?

Mai pun 2-3 poze cu noua mea ocupatie, catifelare in camp electrostatic.

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post 17 Apr 2012, 19:58
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ce vopsea ai folosit la etrieri?


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post 18 Apr 2012, 10:27
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Vopsea de etrieri, la spray. Duplicolor.


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post 18 Apr 2012, 10:35
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QUOTE(Dsign @ 15 Apr 2012, 20:02)
- gresat bine culisele cu vaselina ceramica (+1400 grC)
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Eu am un tub de Valvoline. Da m-am uitat la el ce frumos este cand am schimbat tot ce tine de franare. radmasa.gif


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post 18 Apr 2012, 21:14
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@IRONICK,la glise sa nu bagi vaselina normala,o sa se faca cauciuc si iti ramane etrierul blocat pe ele,patita de mandea!

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post 18 Apr 2012, 22:17
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Confirm, este o nebunie completa sa cureti dupa ce s-a intarit vaselina aia ordinara prin etrieri...

Aseara am montat franele de spate cu disc, partea a2a biggrin.gif

Totul a decurs perfect.

Am demontat cu grija vechiul sistem, am curatat bine puntea in zona fuzetei, eram chiar pregatit cu niste spray cu zinc si spray cu vopsea neagra, in eventualitatea in care nu arata prea bine prin zona.

A fost totul neasteptat de curat, asa ca am purces la treaba. Am montat mai intai fuzetele goale. S-au prins perfect in cele 4 suruburi, exact ca o fuzeta normala de Logan, ba chiar fuzeta de Clio are un element de centrare mai solid.

Am continuat cu montajul discului pe fuzeta, operatiune destul de simpla pentru cine are scule potrivite. Peste disc am asezat etrierul gata echipat. Am strans toate suruburile la cuplu, am legat conductele si cablurile de frana de mana si gata! S-au dus 4 ore de munca.

Momentan, din lipsa de timp si poate si de fonduri, merg cu cablurile de frana lungi, acelea de MCV modificate sa mearga cu vechiul sistem. Cam asta ar fi singura improvizatie la franele acestea, in acest moment.

In rest, totul s-a potrivit la perfectie. Mai ramane de facut o aerisire ca la carte (am facut ieri cateva pedale, dar eram prea obosit sa insist), insa abia dupa ce masor niste presiuni inainte si dupa repartitor. Am convingerea ca nu-si mai face treaba, iar daca asa e, il voi scoate de tot si voi pune un repartitor reglabil in habitaclu in locul lui. Asta se va intampla abia dupa prima etapa de Campionat.

Acum incerc sa ma obisnuiesc cu noua configuratie, deja simt imbunatatiri in functionarea franei de mana.
Poze voi pune maine.


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post 20 Apr 2012, 23:13
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QUOTE(matheo66c @ 18 Apr 2012, 22:14)
@IRONICK,la glise sa nu bagi vaselina normala,o sa se faca cauciuc si iti ramane etrierul blocat pe ele,patita de mandea!
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Nu este ce te gandesti tu. Uite o poza cu el:

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post 21 Apr 2012, 00:20
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 20 Apr 2012, 23:13)
Nu este ce te gandesti tu. Uite o poza cu el:

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Atunci scuzele mele,daca este ceramica,este perfecta smile.gif


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post 21 Apr 2012, 00:29
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da' pozilii?



unde-s pozilii?!


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post 21 Apr 2012, 09:12
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Ma scuzati, am incercat sa postez de la serviciu si se pare ca n-a mers treaba sad.gif asa ca, scuze de watermark

Dupa calculele si masuratorile mele, ecartamentul s-a marit cu 2 cm, momentan ma lupt cu lichidul acela mult prea vascos si greu de aerisit. Frana de mana functioneaza brutal, asa cum mi-am dorit, nu liniar ca la vechiul sistem.

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post 22 Apr 2012, 20:00
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Gata in totalitate cu "improvizatia". Acum am aerisit complet, am pus lichid cat trebuie, cum trebuie. Franele sunt acum suuuuper controlabile, insa la nevoie, brutale. Spatele lucreaza excelent, iar frana de mana ma va ajuta ca corectez devierile subviratoare de la cursele de slalom.

Improvizatie?!

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post 22 Apr 2012, 20:52
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pe fata ce discuri ai?


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post 23 Apr 2012, 17:02
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Pe fata am discuri 260 x 22 mm, de VAN sau de Clio 3 (acelasi drac)

Pe spate sunt discuri de 240 x 8 mm, de Clio 3 sau Megane 2


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post 24 Apr 2012, 07:28
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De ce folosesti prezoanele alea cu piulite la roti, e vreo limitare tehnica sau e treaba de preferinte?


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post 24 Apr 2012, 16:50
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Se monteaza roata mult mai usor si mult mai rapid pe przoanele alea. In plus, pentru jantele de 17" (care au o flansa de prindere foarte groasa) e nevoie de prezoane sau suruburi lungi.

Am optat pentru solutia asta atunci cand mi-am achizitionat jantele de 17".

La curse se foloseste acelasi sistem, tocmai datorita usurintei la montaj (nu mai stai sa potrivesti gaura rotii cu gaura butucului, nu mai pui surubul stramb, samd)


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post 24 Apr 2012, 17:08
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Si mie mi se pare mai practic sistemul cu piulite, oare de ce se prefera suruburile?


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post 24 Apr 2012, 19:01
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Este mai scump de fabricat. In plus, Renault are un sistem dobitoc pentru franele pe spate : tamburul/discul tine loc de butuc de roata, respectiv roata se prinde si se centreaza direct de el. Asadar, e mai usor sa faci 4/5 gauri filetate, decat sa faci 4/5 gauti canelurate in care sa infigi prezoane, apoi sa fabrici si niste piulite pentru ele...


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post 25 Apr 2012, 06:35
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Aha, m-am lamurit acum. smile.gif


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post 25 Apr 2012, 17:44
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QUOTE(Dsign @ 24 Apr 2012, 16:50)
Se monteaza roata mult mai usor si mult mai rapid pe przoanele alea. In plus, pentru jantele de 17" (care au o flansa de prindere foarte groasa) e nevoie de prezoane sau suruburi lungi.


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post 25 Apr 2012, 18:12
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Ideal ar fi sa ai prinderea jantelor pe butuc cu o singura piulita, centrala tongue.gif F1 style wub.gif


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post 25 Apr 2012, 21:51
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Testai franele in zona Orhideea? biggrin.gif cu farurile alea ca nocturnele de pe stadion, nu intelegeam cine e asa de grabit de nu poate sa stea linistit la rosu laugh.gif

Ma surprins faptu ca nu ti-am auzit toba....


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post 26 Apr 2012, 09:51
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Toba e pe silent mode zilele astea biggrin.gif Facem si noi niste pasaje ca lumea la aripile alea ?


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post 26 Apr 2012, 12:03
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QUOTE(Dsign @ 26 Apr 2012, 09:51)
Toba e pe silent mode zilele astea biggrin.gif  Facem si noi niste pasaje ca lumea la aripile alea ?
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Incercam in vara asta, pasajele le am acasa in garaj dar nu am bani sa le pun biggrin.gif accept oricand donatii laugh.gif

Vezi ca ti-am dat si un PM pe 4T, sa-mi raspunzi si mie te rog frumos

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post 26 Apr 2012, 18:42
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Cateva cadre de la ultima etapa din CNIA 2011.

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post 27 Apr 2012, 11:58
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Cand mai sunt astfel de evenimente? Ultimu stiu ca a fost la centru comercial Militari:-P si din pacate nu am venit:(


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post 27 Apr 2012, 18:42
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Urmatorul eveniment, si anume prima etapa din CNIA se va desfasura intre 11 si 13 Mai la Baneasa Shopping City (Mall Baneasa-IKEA) dupa cum urmeaza:

- vineri, 11 mai, antrenamente neoficiale
- sambata 12 mai, antrenamente cronometrate si 2 manse de concurs
- duminica 13 mai, premierea + demonstratii ale participantilor + demonstratii cu vedete + taxi ride + alte surprize

Sunteti asteptati in galeria LoganClub biggrin.gif


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Daca afli si un orar ar fi super, eu as vrea sa vin dar vreau sa stiu intre ce ore :-P


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ce dimensiuni/compozitie/forma au cauciucele de competitie?


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