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post 29 Aug 2008, 21:46
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Am un prieten bun, are cam 2500 de euro in buzunar si vrea sa ia ceva masina cu care sa taraie pana la servici, cumparaturi, weekenduri( inca nu au copii n, numai el si nevasta sa ).....face cam 6-8mii de km pe an. Eu am gasit cateva potential, dar vreau si niste pareri daca se poate.
( nu vrea dacia berlina pt nimic in luma, am gasit in arad cu 2100 de euro dacie in stare f buna din 2001, in 37mii de km )
Masinile ari fi:


1- Opel astra an 1995, 1,6i, servo, geamuri electrice.........175000 km( 1800 euro + 300 taxa )
2 vw golf III an 1994, .......- II -, 1,4 i...........195mii km( 2000 euro + 166 taxa )
3 opel corsa, an 1994, 1,2i.........133mii de km ( 1600 euro + 192 taxa )
4 renault chamade, 1995, 1,7i......210mii de km ( 1900 euro + 560 taxa )
5 daewoo matiz, 2003, 0.8i......56mii km ( 2400 euro + taxa o bere pt mine )
6 dacia supernova, 2002 1,4i ( cred ca asta are si AC ).....67mii de km ( 2600 euro )

Toate masiniile au cam acelasi dotari ( in afara de DSN care cred ca are si AC ), sunt EURO 2.
Eu am dat votul la DSN sau la Matiz, fiind sunt cele mai noi, sunt inmatriculate ( deci fara bataie de cap, spaga la RAR si alte nesimtiri )

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post 29 Aug 2008, 21:47
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Io as merge pe varianta 6. Da' as fi pregatit sa mai umblu pe la tabla.


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post 29 Aug 2008, 22:34
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nush ce sa zic decat matiz parca mai bine supernova, numai uita-te bine la tabla, pe dedesupt sa nu fie ruginita, la uzura pedalelor si la volan, daca lucesc sau volanu nu mai are striiatile comparativ cu centrul volanului eu zic ca are mult mai multi kilometri, eu am luat o data tzeapa hardcore cu o supernova, vopsea lux, interior (curat cel putin), motoru arata bine suna bine, numai am trecut cu vederea uzura foarte tare la volan era plan perfect volanu (bineinteles eram si tanar pe atunci, foarte tanar si nu prea stiam multe la masini) si la primu service avea ceva treaba la kilometraj si numa vedea un cablu prins cu banda izoloatoare, cu toate ca din cate imi aduc aminte ca se misca prima cifra de la kilometraj.
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post 29 Aug 2008, 22:41
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luni vrea amicul meu sa faca pasul, eu am sugerat DSN sau matiz, totusi sunt masini facute dupa 2000, vw, opelul si renaultul sunt OK, dar au peste 12 ani


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post 29 Aug 2008, 22:45
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dar diferenta de calitate e enorma
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post 29 Aug 2008, 22:49
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vrei sa spui ca un matiz la 5 ani si la sub 60mii km e mai slaba calitativ decat un opel astra de 13 ani si la 170mii de km? Poate daca compari ne noua ambele masini...este mai mult ca sigur, dar asa....? Eu sincer ma indoies, dar in fine nu pot sa ma pronunti ca nu am avut nici matiz nici astra a


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post 29 Aug 2008, 22:51
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da o tura cu ambele tipuri de masini, o sa te convingi singur wink.gif


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post 29 Aug 2008, 22:51
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Bre tzukule, nu te lua dupa aia informati la coltu' blocului! O masina de 15 ani e o masina de 15 ani, chiar daca e opel.

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post 29 Aug 2008, 22:55
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am un prieten cu o solenza, are 40k km , troncane din toate incheieturile,scartaie plastice prin ea, scaunele nu se mai regleaza, tot DACIE ramane, am facut un drum de 200km cu opelul astra f al unui prieten de familie, are 180.000 km si il aleg la orice ora in fata dsn/slz wink.gif
cat despre fiabilitate, din 2003 pana acum a schimbat decat consumabile..si oricum piesele la opel sunt mai ieftine ca la dacia-renault

cum sa dai 2600 de euro pe o masina care nu are nici macar servodirectie ? wacko.gif

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QUOTE(ArtVandelay @ 29 Aug 2008, 23:55)
si oricum piesele la opel sunt mai ieftine ca la dacia-renault
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post 29 Aug 2008, 22:59
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Cel care are 2500 toti banii nu are bani sa schimbe piese la masina. Cum in banii astia nu poate lua o masina la care nu schimba nimic o perioada importanta de timp, ramane o masina la care piesele sunt mai ieftine. Iti iei de cat iti permti sa intretii.

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post 29 Aug 2008, 22:59
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QUOTE(ArtVandelay @ 29 Aug 2008, 23:55)
cum sa dai 2600 de euro pe o masina care nu are nici macar servodirectie ?  wacko.gif
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post 29 Aug 2008, 23:04
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pai nu sta foarte stralucit financiar.................


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post 29 Aug 2008, 23:04
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Dar un Renault Megane din 97-99,pe la 1800-2100 euro,plus taxa vreo 5-600,nu i-ar place?Ca sunt o gramada si arata mai bine ca Chamade

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post 29 Aug 2008, 23:05
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e mai mult de atat taxa la un megane din anii aia, cam dublu


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post 29 Aug 2008, 23:06
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QUOTE(tzuku @ 30 Aug 2008, 00:04)
pai nu sta foarte stralucit financiar.................
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Atunci variantele 5 si 6 au piesele mai accesibile. Sunt mai pentru buzunarul lui cum se spune.

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post 29 Aug 2008, 23:07
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Eu am fost azi cu el la targ si la parcare cu ' pirati', unde sunt masini aduse din afara...sincer am vazut un renault megane cam dubios , si o laguna I la 2200, in rest eraum masini chiar buna ( 1997-2000 cu euro 3 ) dar peste 3000 de euro. Omul nu are de unde mai mult de 2500-2600


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post 29 Aug 2008, 23:10
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QUOTE(ArtVandelay @ 30 Aug 2008, 00:05)
e mai mult de atat taxa la un megane din anii aia, cam dublu
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post 29 Aug 2008, 23:13
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http://www.autobizz.ro/taxa-inmatriculare.php




Taxa specială intrata în vigoare la 01.07.2008 este:

1123.20 EURO 3770.02 RON

pentru motor 1,6 euro 2 vechime 10-11 ani


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post 29 Aug 2008, 23:22
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Nu stiu cum calculeaza aia,dar stiu ca acum intra in calcul si emisiile Co2,asa ca mie imi iasa la motor 1590 cm,12-13 ani,euro 2-------661 euro,si la 11-12 ani,868 de euro!Si cu 1800 i-ar cam iesi,nu?

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post 29 Aug 2008, 23:46
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Eu as alege Matizul. Am Supernova si imi place motorul ca trage mai bine si are AC, insa bag bani in ea cu nemiluita. Si este ruginita rau, mai ales la oalele de la amortizoarele spate. Cred ca Matizul e mai bun la capitolul intretinere. Restul sunt destul de vechi, la mine argumentul suprem este posibilitatea de a face Casco.


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post 30 Aug 2008, 04:31
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Parerea mea e sa ia opelul astra F. Intretinerea e destul de ieftina, si eu planuiesc sa imi iau ca a doua masina o astra F. Insa ar fi de preferat sa se duca dupa ea in Germania. Ce aduc romanii in general sunt masini luate pe la 300-400 de euro de acolo. Poate lua una in stare ff buna de acolo la banii lui.

Emisiile de CO2 se iau in calcul doar la masinile EURO3 si EURO4. O alta varianta ar fi cielo care il iei din 96-97 cu 2500 de euro. Daca stai si cauti poti gasi unul ok in banii astia.


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post 30 Aug 2008, 05:39
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QUOTE(andrew14_maverick @ 30 Aug 2008, 00:46)
Am Supernova si...este ruginita rau, mai ales la oalele de la amortizoarele spate.
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daca amicul tau vrea supernova s-o verifice la sange. dac-o nimereste bine o sa fie foarte multumit de ea.


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post 30 Aug 2008, 07:19
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pana acuma locul 1 este matizul, nu vred ca merge el pana in germania dupa masina, nestiind limba, tara.....

30 Aug 2008, 07:59:
Vb cu un domn de afaceri masini SH ( bisnitar de 2 bani ), el a sugerat masinile DSN si Matiz, pt ca masinile care ajung in Romania ( in mare parte aici in TM )sunt cu catalizator scos, surubait, pus in stare de fuctionare provizoriu, si peste 3-4 luni pica in gramada. De exemplu el cumpara un Vectra din '94 cu 400 de euro, aduce in tara, si...chit de fibra de sticla, un mecanic cat de cat, mai baga vreo 400 euro...si il vinde cu 1800-2000.

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post 30 Aug 2008, 09:01
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Intr-adevar, Matizul mi se pare cea mai buna solutie. E o masina relativ noua, fiabila, si mai sigura decat cele din anii '90.


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post 30 Aug 2008, 09:28
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Alexu7, eu nici nu as sta pe nadul ca sa aleg laguna sau matiz...( nu imi plac masinile clasa mica ) ...dar cat costa intretinerea ma Laguna si cat costa la Matiz?


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asta sa ti-o spun nu stiu, posesorii de Renault, poate ne lamuresc smile.gif


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post 30 Aug 2008, 09:42
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ehhh, sti si tu ca cea mai scumpa masina la intretinere este: renault, peugeot, citroen


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post 30 Aug 2008, 10:40
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Am un Matiz modelul E Classe biggrin.gif (ala chel) de 6 ani. Intretinerea m-a dus pana acum undeva intre 400 si 500 de euro (schimburi de ulei, filtre, niste bucse, placute de frana, un cap de bara, etc)....Masina merge foarte bine (in prezent a nevestei) mi-am facut cu ea un concediu in Grecia si nenumarate drumuri prin tara, la bulgari, etc., si n-am avut nicio problema.
In afara de asta tine cont ca ai piese si servisuri pe toate drumurile. Partea mai proasta e ca e mica si ca intra in frana de motor daca dai drumul la aerul conditionat biggrin.gif.

Daca nu te deranjeaza chestiile astea doua eu zic ca e o alegere buna....Bafta la cumparare.....



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