Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+ Opel a fost luat de Magna si Sberbank, Colaborare ruso-canadiana-austriaca

General vorbind, gazele vin de la ruşi, nu de la americani... Atunci hai sa trecem toata UE la comunism, ca tot ce ne vine din import la nivel de electronice, textile, plasticarii etc. vine din China, nu?...

General vorbind, gazele vin de la ruşi, nu de la americani...

Atunci hai sa trecem toata UE la comunism, ca tot ce ne vine din import la nivel de electronice, textile, plasticarii etc. vine din China, nu?...

cert este ca GM sa sucit....

nu stim daca este faptul ca platformele comune erau dezvoltate si in europa...sau faptul ca gubernul american au strans din nas dupa vanzare hummer la chineji....

eu de abia asteptam sa rad de posesorii de opel ca au masini rusesti.... asa cum jaguarul si land rover sunt indiene........

sau faptul ca gubernul american au strans din nas dupa vanzare hummer la chineji....

Avand in vedere ca GM e controlat de statul american acum, as spune ca Obama a fost de acord sa vanda Hummerul Chinei.

eu de abia asteptam sa rad de posesorii de opel ca au masini rusesti...

Mie-mi spui?... Am un prieten bun care are un Astra Classic, cred ca iti dai seama ce si-a auzit de la mine de cand cu povestea GM/Magna-Sberbank...

This post has been edited by Vio: 6 Nov 2009, 11:30

desi ultimul post e scris de vio..

se pare ca guvernul german nu e prea incantat de planul opel de a-si reveni, ce se bazeaza pe imprumuturi de 2,8 miliarde de euro (nu se spune daca sunt rambursabile sau nu). Mai ales ca trebuie ca ue sa fie de acord cu aceste ajutoare. Si cum ajutoare vor fi cerute din mai multe tari.. Oricum razbate ideea ca nu e exclus un faliment pentru opel

The German magazine Der Spiegel got its hands on an internal document. In the paper, the German economy ministry gives an awful assessment of the business plan that Nick Reilly had circulated amongst interested parties. Interested parties being the countries where Opel has plants and where GM wants to collect €2.7b in government aid. The Spiegel’s article will appear in the printed issue on Monday. But there are some damning pre-releases.

Minister Rainer Brüderle has serious doubts about Opel’s restructuring plan. “The viability is questionable,” the internal memo says. The planned job cuts are “hard to understand.”

And once more, Germany’s all-time phobia when it comes to Opel aid emerges: According to Brüderle’s paper, there is a risk that state aid for Opel will ooze away to Detroit, for instance as license fees. “A ring-fencing plan has not been presented,” says the Brüderle expertise.

The states where Opel has plants already see the writing on the wall and probably have seen the writing in the memo. According to Der Spiegel, the states have already written off aid from Berlin. There is talk that the states would come up with €750m, but only if GM matches the sum to bring the total to €1.5b. A symbolic gesture, as Reilly had already said that there won’t be another dime from Detroit. A “nein” from Berlin would also set a precedent for other countries. Why pay if Germany won’t?

As another sign that Germany wants to put a knot in the purse strings, Brüderle asked the EU in Brussels to rigorously examine the legality of any support for Opel. He requested the vice president of the European Commission Joaquín Almunia, “to examine critically whether the business plan is viable and whether competitive distortions in Europe can be excluded,” said Brüderle to the Sueddeutsche Zeitung. Not that he’s against Opel. His first car was an Opel Kadett, a hand-me-down from his dad. Now, Brüderle’s car is a Mercedes.

Before any money will flow from any EU government, Brussels has to bless the plan. It’s pretty obvious that Brüderle is setting the scene for a desecration instead. Any guesses that Brussels will certify the viability of Reilly’s plan if Berlin thinks the proposal is questionable? Opel profitable in 2012?

One thing becomes clear: Nobody is tripping over each other to bail Opel out. Of course, the other automakers, from VW to Daimler, are against it. Surprisingly, even the unions demanded that the plan is not to be funded. In the public opinion, Opel is off the Radar. Europe has too much capacity, and Opel won’t be missed. As the incentive measures are petering out, industry groups see 2010 sales in Europe, in Germany especially, collapse. Russia is a nut case. Somebody has to go. The engineers in the Opel tech center will find a job elsewhere in a few seconds, there is a shortage.  The growth market is China, and without Opel technology, GM China will be selling Daewoos. Which would suit VW et al just fine.

Update: Faced by heavy opposition from all flanks, Opel is ready to sue for peace. An Opel spokesperson said to the Deutsche Presseagentur that management and unions will sit down at the bargaining table. Works Council leader Klaus Franz said the “workers are ready for constructive negotiations,” as long as there “is a will to compromise.” A date has not been scheduled yet.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/berlin-ha...rn-around-plan/

se pare ca germania nu va oferi ajutor financiar opel-ului, ajutor foarte necesar pentru a derula activitatile de zi cu zi (opel fiind intr-un blocaj financiar de toata frumusetea). De acu singura speranta ramane la gm sa vina cu bani de acasa..

So today’s the day when the fate of Opel was to be decided – according to plan. The committee met today – and decided to decide nothing. They couldn’t come to a conclusion. They handed the decision to Minister Brüderle. Brüderle’s decision: Nein. No government money to Opel, reports Focus.  There still is a glimmer of hope for Opel …

Tomorrow, Thursday, Chancellor Angela Merkel will have a sit-down with the premiers of the Opel states. They will discuss alternatives.

As far as Opel and GM are concerned, there aren’t many alternatives. It’s either government money or not. Opel states and unions think that without government money,  three out of four Opel plants in Germany will have to be closed. It could shutter all of Opel.

Even with a loan guarantee, Opel wouldn’t get the money, says the Financial Times Deutschland. The government usually guarantees for 90 percent, the remaining 10 percent of the risk are with the banks. No bank wants to carry that risk. Banks ask GM to cover the risk in cash.

A possible work-around would be the European Investment Bank (EIB). However, an EIB loan would also necessitate government guarantees. Opel would have to front the money first. The loan would also be limited to development projects such as electric cars. It would most likely attract the interest of Brussels. Maybe that’s what Berlin wants to get rid of the hot potato.

sursa: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/opel-a-no...aybe-on-friday/