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Andrei53
post 18 Nov 2010, 23:04
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am revenit: tocmai ce am condus un mcv 1,6 8v si am vazut urmatoarele: dupa 40 de mii km zdrangane mult mai rau ca skoda mea ce are 158 de mii, frane mult mult mai proaste decat la skoda mea in momentul actual (cu toate ca eu am martorul de uzura aprins am frana mult mai buna decat loganu) cand intra absu ala te duci mai ceva ca pe gheata.. mult mai instabila... ce am de laudat: spatios, garda la sol mare si lumina oferita de faruri. ATAT.

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Hai sa ramanem la subiect.
Viitorul model Skoda trebuie sa se bazeze pe o platforma amortizata, ca sa fie rentabila. D'aia as presupune ca va fi fie o platforma de Fabia, fie de Octavia Tour, fie o mixtura ca la Roomster: Puntea fata de Fabia, puntea spate de Octavia Tour. Caroseria probabil tip sedan, probabil ca va semana cu Octavia 2/3 sau Passat. Lungime, ceva mai mare ca Loganul, sa astupe golul dintre Fabia si Octavia 2/3 cam la fel de lata.
Plasticele vor fi probabil indiene, sa arate bine de la distanta tari si ieftine.
Motoarele trebuie sa fie EURO5 cu posibilitate de upgrade la EURO6, deci as paria pe TDI-uurile de 1,2 si 1,6. si benzinarele 1,2HTP, 1.2TSI si 1.4 aspirat.
Nu as mai paria pe 1,6 aspirat in momentul asta, nu stiu daca merita sa-l faca EURO5
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post 1 Mar 2011, 17:54
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Sa reinviem topicul, asadar astazi la Geneva ,noul concept Vision D de la Skoda ridica valul de presupuneri referitoare la viitorul firmei,tot azi s-a lansat oficial noul logo al marcii,am adaugat si design-concept-ul de la care s-a pornit ,astept comentariile voastre pertinente!

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post 1 Mar 2011, 21:44
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seamana la fata prea mult cu conceptele vw prezentate la geneva.. nu prea stiu ce sa zic, parca fata skodei octavia 2 (inclusiva cea cu facelift) arata mai bine.. Oricum mare revolutie nu e, e doar o evolutie


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post 1 Mar 2011, 22:06
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Nu stiu daca ridica valul de presupuneri referitoare la viitorul firmei, cert este ca imi place acest concept si astept cu nerabdare viitoarea masina de serie bazata pe el.


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post 2 Mar 2011, 10:25
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@aphophis :Tocmai ca le-a iesit la faruri sa le faca sa arate extraordinar fara sa copieze ...Audi.
Dupa "alungiri" si 'rotunjiri" se revine interesant la faruri drepte... Revolutie nu prea mai exista in automotive(care model mai revolutioneaza industria auto in 2011?), exista in schimb cert evolutie.. sofer1.gif


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QUOTE(radioman @ 1 Mar 2011, 18:54)
... astazi la Geneva ,noul concept Vision D de la Skoda ridica valul de presupuneri referitoare la viitorul firmei,..

Adica?!

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post 2 Mar 2011, 16:21
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Exprimare de savant cum intalnesti la orice pas,hai sa facem un mic efort si sa ramanem on topic ,daca nu mai bine ne abtinem... ph34r.gif

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post 6 Sep 2011, 13:17
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http://www.skoda-auto.com/COM/events/frank...es/IAA2011.aspx

Pareri, idei ,inainte de deschiderea oficiala la IAA 2011 de la Frankfurt ? Se pare pana la urma ca la varul neamt acasa a dorit cehul sa faca noua lansare a conceptului MissionL (sau nu l-a lasat decat acolo s-o faca)...

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post 6 Sep 2011, 14:15
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Frumos preambulul pt Octavia 3. Incep sa limbez deja....


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spectaculos de plictisitoare..


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post 6 Sep 2011, 15:37
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post 6 Sep 2011, 19:37
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post 6 Sep 2011, 20:14
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Nu fiti rautaciosi fiindca SK Octavia este unica din 1960 incoace.
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parca seamana putin cu alfa romeo 166 din fara...farurile mici.

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mie imi pare ca astia la vag nu prea au inspiratie. Majoritatea masinilor lor parca is facelifturi la modele mai vechi. Golf 6 vs golf 5, skoda octavia 2 vs skoda octavia 1, touran nou vs touran vechi. Touareg nou vs touareg vechi, audi a4 nou vs audi a4 vechi, audi a8 nou vs audi a8 vechi si tot asa..


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Si acum ca sa termin cu carcoteala pot spune ca doar la capitolul acces in portbagaj Sk. Octavia fie ea 1 sau 2 sau chiar 3 (daca pastreaza hayonul), este peste Logan si chiar Megane2 sau Fluence, la care introducerea de bagaje voluminoase iti cat da de lucru. Octavia1 este la nivelul de calitate al Megane1 si O2 cu M2, comparatiile cu Logan nu intra in discutie fiindca sunt diferite ca materiale, pret, costuri de intretinere, acestea din urma fiind in favoarea produsului romanesc. De altfel si comparatiile Sandero vs. Fabia sau Duster vs. Yeti la nivelul calitatii materialelor, preturilor sau dotarilor nu isi au locul decat ca discutii non sens; ca si performante, spatiu, pozitie la volan, da se poate discuta.


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am mers mult cu octavia 1 tdi 1.9 cu vro 20 mii km la bord...nu ai ce sa i reprosezi..manca chibrite...
mergea prea bine masina si consuma la 120....3.5.pe instant.

nu se compara deloc cu loganul...la nici un capitol..e peste.

in rest 1.6 merge bine...dar in bucuresti nu am iesit sub 11 la suta.

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QUOTE(iulian'71 @ 6 Sep 2011, 20:59)
Si acum ca sa termin cu carcoteala pot spune ca doar la capitolul acces in portbagaj Sk. Octavia fie ea 1 sau 2 sau chiar 3 (daca pastreaza hayonul), este peste Logan si chiar Megane2 sau Fluence, la care introducerea de bagaje voluminoase iti cat da de lucru.
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pai tu compari un hatchback cu 2 sedanuri. de cele mai multe ori hatchback-ul este favorizat la accesul in portbagaj datorita deschiderii mari a hayonului.

@andyno din punct de vedere al consumului de carburant cel putin pentru moment dieselul iese invingator, deci discutia pe aceasta tema nu are sens. si ca idee sa stii ca o octavia 1.6 este mai gurmanda ca loganul tau.


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@slider2 Caroseria la O1 si 2 este in 2.5 volume pe cand M2 sedan si Fluence sunt in 3 volume. Hatchback caracterizeaza caroseria in fix doua volume. Vezi: http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatchback
De aici rezulta ca nu e nici hatchback si nici sedan, ci o combinatie intre cele doua tipuri de caroserie. Apropo am avut SupeRnova si apreciez tipul acesta de caroserie in 2.5 volume.

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Din cate stiu eu, genul asta de caroserie se cheama liftback.
Departe de a fi vreo frumusete, tocmai liniile cuminti tehnica buna, fiabilitatea ok si pretul comparabil cu Renault au facut Octavia atat de populara.
Cand ai un model care se vinde atat de bine, tre sa fii berbec sa il schimbi radical. Mai pilesti pe colo, pe dincolo.


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mie imi pare ca astia la vag nu prea au inspiratie
co-rect, lasa ca vine renault laguna 3 de se rupe cu design-ul ei minunat si cu calitatea din contractul 2009 a lui gaozn radmasa.gif
nici macar hyundai nu vinde asa putine masini

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co-rect, lasa ca vine renault laguna 3 de se rupe cu design-ul ei minunat si cu calitatea din contractul 2009 a lui gaozn  radmasa.gif
nici macar hyundai nu vinde asa putine masini
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