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zeusreddog
post 25 Aug 2011, 09:17
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Salutare!

Am gasit un Golf 4 1.9 tdi 101 cp din 2003, 147 000 km. Am vorbit cu proprietarul si a spus ca ultimul pret ar fi 5700 dar eu cred ca lasa si mai jos daca negociez la fata locului si nu la telefon.

Este model Pacific deci are climatronic, radio cd cu navigatie (display monocrom), geamuri electrice fata/spate, volan si schimbator in piele, computer bord mare.

Este adusa din Germania si in Romania a avut 2 proprietari, un prieten de-al proprietarului si proprietarul (deci eu as fi al 4-lea).

Deci, merita? Raportul km/dotari/pret este ok?

Acesta este link-ul cu anuntul http://www.autovit.ro/volkswagen-golf-C19575455.html

PS: mentionez ca vreau sa vand Logan-ul din semnatura ca sa iau acest Golf.


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post 25 Aug 2011, 09:18
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Du-te cu ea la un service si vezi daca merita. Aici vei strange x pagini de pareri si caterinca.


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post 25 Aug 2011, 09:21
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Sercice-ul ii spune starea tehnica, si el nu asta a intrebat aici.

Parerea mea este ca nu merita un fier de 8 ani atatia bani doar ca scrie VW pe el.

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post 25 Aug 2011, 09:30
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Dupa cum a zis si argon, pana la starea tehnica as dori sa aflu daca merita masina x vs masina y, in cazul de fata Golf vs Logan. Ce ma incanta la Golf este motorul, care dupa parerea mea este cel mai bun motor VAG, si dotarile. Ce nu ma incanta este nr de proprietari. La o eventuala revanzare, cand ar afla cumparatorul ca ar fi al 5-lea proprietar mi-e sa nu dea bir cu fugitii..


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post 25 Aug 2011, 09:42
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Poti sa scoti oricand un duplicat la carte si apari primul proprietar. Daca o lasa pe la 5000, si starea tehnica e buna , sa zicem ca ar merita..


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post 25 Aug 2011, 10:14
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Nu stiu daca il lasa la 5000.. daca a scris in anunt 5999, cred ca il lasa cel mult la 5400-5500.


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post 25 Aug 2011, 10:33
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sincer NU. Pretul e cam mare, un pret reali pt masina sa zicem 4500. Chiar azi am vazut vw golf break cu clima, motor de 1.6 16v cu 4600 neg din 2002.


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post 25 Aug 2011, 11:01
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Deci cum cac@ sa dai 6000E pe o masina de 8.5 ani? blink.gif
Poate daca era Phaeton da, dar pentru un mediocru de Golf mi se pare extraordinar de mult.


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post 25 Aug 2011, 11:01
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Ala e benzina, diesle e normal sa fie mai scump.


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post 25 Aug 2011, 11:19
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Nici macar Golf 5 nu este ... ala macar merita.

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post 25 Aug 2011, 12:29
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Da, platforma are 13 ani, si nici nu stiu daca atunci a fost facuta de la 0 sau imprumutata de la Golf 3.


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post 25 Aug 2011, 13:25
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De la 1.6 benzina la 1.9 diesel (turbo) e cale lunga.. iar daca Phaeton era 6000 imi luam 2 nu 1.

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post 25 Aug 2011, 13:45
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d la 5700 pana la 4300 (cred ca poti bate palma la pretul asta) e diferenta de 1400 euro. Faci un calcul diferenta de bani cat economisesti la conbustibil, scazi diferenta de intretinere TDI vs MPI, si afli ca parca calea nu e chiar atat de lunga. (vorbesc din propria experienta, detin una bucata de 1.9TDI si una bucata de 1.8 benzinar)


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post 25 Aug 2011, 13:55
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Asa am gandit si eu cand mi-am luat prima data Logan, 1.4 benzina. Dom'le dau mai putin pe ea, intretinerea mai ieftina. Avea 26 000 km cand am dat-o pt ca nu mai suportam sa trag de ea ca de caine mort si sa imi consume 11L in oras.


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post 25 Aug 2011, 14:14
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ala e aproape pret de passat


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post 25 Aug 2011, 14:22
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Care se stie, e cea mai adevarata masina prin Craiova...


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post 25 Aug 2011, 14:43
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QUOTE(zeusreddog @ 25 Aug 2011, 14:55)
Asa am gandit si eu cand mi-am luat prima data Logan, 1.4 benzina. Dom'le dau mai putin pe ea, intretinerea mai ieftina. Avea 26 000 km cand am dat-o pt ca nu mai suportam sa trag de ea ca de caine mort si sa imi consume 11L in oras.
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Nu compara Logan 1.4 cu Golf 1.6, sau chiar 1.4 16v, desi asta din urma are tot 75 de cai, nu prea ai ce compara, difera distributia cuplului, consum mai mic , trage mai bine etc.


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post 25 Aug 2011, 14:52
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Nici nu compar, am facut comparatia benzina-diesel gandindu-ma la Logan (1.4 benzina vs 1.5 diesel), asa cum el a comparat 1.6 benzina cu 1.9 diesel de pe Golf. Cilindreea, cuplul, prezenta turbinei.. toate sunt in favoarea dieselului.


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post 25 Aug 2011, 16:02
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asta e celin cauza,phaeton.E o super masina,dar are pret de [este 45mii de euro.
Mai exact:
Pret DDP
de la 64.680 €

Pret CIP
de la 52.162 €

Utile
Calculeaza RCA
Rate de la 1642 €/luna

Taxa auto
de la 944 €

Scuze de off-topic.
Dar nici eu nu stiam cum arata aceasta masina sad.gif

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post 25 Aug 2011, 16:11
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Eu stiam.. se gaseste la 15-16k euro sh, insa cu motorul 3.0 tdi v6, nu 6.0 w12. Oricum Phaeton joaca in alta liga, daca as fi intrebat daca se merita sa dau Loganul ca sa iau Phaeton nu-mi raspundea nimeni, o considerau retorica.. smile.gif


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post 25 Aug 2011, 16:25
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Aha, sa platesti tu impozitu' la Phaeton. radmasa.gif


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post 25 Aug 2011, 16:47
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Uite si un faeton mai ieftin:


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post 25 Aug 2011, 17:04
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Cam scumpa si nu cred ca,(virgula) km sunt reali.

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post 25 Aug 2011, 18:20
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Km sunt irelevanti, poate sa aiba 200 000 si sa mearga ca noua sau poate sa aiba 50 000 si sa fie varza, depinde f mult si de cum a fost intretinuta si exploatata.
Parerea mea, are 147 000 poate de la ultima resetare..

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post 25 Aug 2011, 18:21
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La vag apar pe tester km reali, daca nu cumva se pot reseta si aia


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post 25 Aug 2011, 18:27
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Cunosc pe cineva care a sunat in legatura cu o masina si cand a intrebat cati km are masina i s-a raspuns "Pai cam cati ai vrea sa aiba?". Ce sa mai, s-au smecherit "baetii".


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post 25 Aug 2011, 19:21
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Nu prea merita sa-ti cumperi o astfel de masina din Romania din cauza mitului "masinii nemtesti" , mit ce le ridica pretul peste cat fac. La o simpla cautare am gasit asta , km putini, motor capacitate mica cu un consum mic si taxe mici. Daca cauti poti gasi in bani aia masini mult mai bune dar nu sunt "nemtesti".


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@zeusreddog tu ai mai avut un topic cu un audi daca merita ......hmm si asta e la fel.
Pret/km/vechime nu se merita cum au zis si ceilalti mai sus sa dai atatia bani doar pentru simplu fapt ca e VW.Numai daca esti cumva un bun negociator si il scoti pe la 5000 sleep.gif


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post 25 Aug 2011, 21:55
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QUOTE(argon @ 25 Aug 2011, 14:43)
Nu compara Logan 1.4 cu Golf 1.6, sau chiar 1.4 16v, desi asta din urma are tot 75 de cai, nu prea ai ce compara, difera distributia cuplului, consum mai mic , trage mai bine etc.
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Logan 1.4 vs Golf 1.4 o sa fie 1 - 0 pentru Logan, cu cel putin o jumate de masina. In plus, Loganul 1.4 consuma mai putin decat Golful 1.4. Nu stiu de unde iti iei tu informatiile argoane, dar macar nu-i mai dezinforma pe altii.

QUOTE(zeusreddog @ 25 Aug 2011, 16:11)
Eu stiam.. se gaseste la 15-16k euro sh, insa cu motorul 3.0 tdi v6, nu  6.0 w12. Oricum Phaeton joaca in alta liga, daca as fi intrebat daca se merita sa dau Loganul ca sa iau Phaeton nu-mi raspundea nimeni, o considerau retorica.. smile.gif
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La 15-16k E sh iti iei eventual un Passat bun. Hai sa zicem ca iei si Phaeton, dar nu o sa poti circula cu el: impozit, asigurari, intretinere.


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QUOTE(schumycr @ 25 Aug 2011, 18:04)
Cam scumpa si nu cred ca,(virgula) km sunt reali.
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Exact asta gandeam si eu.
@zeusreddog km conteaza, nu sunt asa irelevanti...


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