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post 7 Feb 2013, 14:15
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Scrie in .pdf la pag 6. dar nu despre cuzinet axial, nu pomeneste asta, doar de jocul axial biela-arbore.


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post 7 Feb 2013, 16:00
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Am comandat toti cuzinetii cu litera C, sper ca in setul axial, pe langa semilune sa vina si cei doi semicuzineti ce se monteaza pe arbore central.


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post 7 Feb 2013, 21:49
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Despre axial nu am observat nimic in pdf.
Daca ai si restul pune aici sa citim si noi.


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post 10 Feb 2013, 00:54
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Setul de cuzineti axiali este format din cei notati in poza cu 2, nu?

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post 10 Feb 2013, 09:42
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Da, aia sunt.
Cred ca trebuie sa masori piesele inainte de a da comanda. Dupa cativa ani de utilizare si cateva zeci sau sute de mii de km ar putea sa nu mai fie in cote, sa fie ovalizati, etc.


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post 10 Feb 2013, 22:44
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Pai eu schimb vibrochenul si toti cuzinetii, ii pun noi. Tu te referi la biele?


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post 16 Feb 2013, 14:18
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Alta problema, am primit garnitura de chiuloasa si e mai subtire decat cea originala cu 0.1mm, cea originala avea 1.2mm, cea de acum are 1.1mm. Conteaza?


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post 16 Feb 2013, 14:31
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Cred ca se mai preseaza cand se strange motorul.

Teoretic ar fi putin mai comprimat motorul.

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post 16 Feb 2013, 21:51
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Exact, fiid mai subtire cu 0.1mm, motorul o sa fie un pic mai comprimat. Eu ma temeam sa nu bata pistoanele in supape.


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post 16 Feb 2013, 22:55
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Fara sa fiu inginer de specialitate zic: exclus!


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post 1 Mar 2013, 20:32
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Am alta problema, s-a montat motorul si se aude un scartait groaznic cand se lasa pedala de ambreiaj. Scartaitul se aude din zona ambreiaj-cutie. Daca se calca vreo 5cm pe ambreiaj sau de tot, nu se mai aude nimic. Ce sa fie?


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post 1 Mar 2013, 20:36
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Am luat 2 mm din chiulasa de nova. Dinadins. Am obtinut 11,5 compresie. Toleranta la lovit in supape e ceva mai mare de atit.
Scirtiitul ambreiajului ar putea fi de la rulment.


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post 1 Mar 2013, 20:42
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Asa a zis si mecanicul, ca e rulmentul, dar cum s-a stricat stand pe loc? Inainte de a duce masina la reparat, ambreiajul functiona fara zgomote.


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post 1 Mar 2013, 20:59
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Se mai strica lucruri stand, cand ramane masina cu saptamanile la mecanic acasa. wink.gif


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post 1 Mar 2013, 21:03
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E o mare greseala sa umbli la ambreiaj si sa nu schimbi rulmentul. Mecanicul e din aia care pune piesele pe jos?

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post 1 Mar 2013, 21:07
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A, chiar! A avut motoru' dat jos. doh.gif



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post 1 Mar 2013, 21:11
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Bingo.


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post 1 Mar 2013, 21:17
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Oricum daca era meserias il punea cum trebuie si zgomotul in cel mai rau caz era greu de sesizat. Multi mecanici habar n-au cum se monteaza corect un ambreiaj. In jur de 70% parca.

Si nu o spun eu, o spuneau reprezentantii Valeo la o prezentare axata pe ambreiaje, la care am participat si eu din intamplare(m-a rugat un amic care lucreaza la un importator de piese sa-l insotesc, chermeza fiind prin Brasov).


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post 1 Mar 2013, 21:20
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Io am nimerit niște bulgari varnaioți pricepuți a scapat.gif


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post 1 Mar 2013, 21:23
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Aia nu s-au nascut mecanici ca romanu' cu Dacia lui. cool.gif

Pe de alta parte mi se pare tare nasol sa-ti pice ambreiaju' la "fier" in asa conditii. Cielo-ul maica-mii are vreo 135.000km acum(cu greu, din '95 si pana acum), si tot cu ala original merge. Eu nu observ semne ca si-ar da duhul, cel putin nu discul. Parca aud si eu un pic diferente de zgomot intre ambreiaj calcat si lasat liber, dar foarte slab, si nu merita efortul pentru asa ceva.
Tu apucasei sa-l schimbi la Cielo-ul pe care l-ai avut in trecut?


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post 1 Mar 2013, 23:50
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La mine a fost dat motorul jos integral, cutie, planetare, ambreiaj, tot. Am avut probleme cu motorul, s-au schimbat cuzineti, vibrochen si acum merge bine. In schimb a aparut problema asta cu scartaitul asta groaznic. Daca eliberezi ambreiajul de tot se aude, daca apesi ambreiajul cam 5 cm, scartaitul dispare. In rest, intra bine in viteza si pleaca de pe loc normal.

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S-a atenuat intre timp scartaitul, poate scap sa dau cutia jos inca o data. In schimb a aparut o bataie la cald, mecanicul zice ca e bataie de tachet. Cica sa pun ulei mai gros ca la cald e ca"apa". Acum am in motor 5w40, el zice sa pun 10w40 si ca se va rezolva cu bataia.

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post 2 Mar 2013, 18:42
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Sa regleze tachetii nu i-a trecut prin cap? O oarecare bataie e normala.


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post 2 Mar 2013, 19:18
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Tachetii sunt hidraulici. Mi-a confirmat mai inainte ca la rece nu bate si nu vibreaza, doar la cald. Zice sa schimb uleiul actual 5w40 cu 10w40 si se rezolva.


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post 2 Mar 2013, 19:30
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La cald sunt la fel de vascoase uleiurile respective. In general tachetii hidraulici fac galagie pe ger cand folosesti ulei care nu corespunde.


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QUOTE(kikked @ 1 Mar 2013, 23:50)
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Daca mi-e iertata indiscretia, producatorul motorului (adica aia de l-au gandit de la zero) ce zice?


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post 2 Mar 2013, 20:08
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Bataia aia nu are treaba cu uleiul,asta e vrajeala de-a mecanicului.Daca e asa , pune-i valvolina in loc de ulei si o sa mearga pe mute.


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post 2 Mar 2013, 22:46
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Producatorul motorului recomanda 5w30, acum in motor este 5w40, iar mecanicul recomanda 10w40. El spune ca nu o sa mai bata la cald cu 10w40, ca e uleiul mai gros. blink.gif


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post 2 Mar 2013, 22:56
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Ia baga tu ce recomanda producatorul.
Inainte de rk cu ce ulei a mers?


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post 2 Mar 2013, 23:10
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A mers cu 5w40.


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post 3 Mar 2013, 09:48
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QUOTE(kikked @ 2 Mar 2013, 22:46)
acum in motor este 5w40, iar mecanicul recomanda 10w40. El spune ca nu o sa mai bata la cald cu 10w40, ca e uleiul mai gros. blink.gif
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E mai gros la rece (cum zice si Merced), ori tie iti bate la cald, deci n-are treaba uleiul.

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