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So the Logan is a bit too noisy when driving a bit faster. Did any body do something about aditional sound isolation? A think I saw some pictures some time ago, but it's hard to find them whe I don't understand Romanian. I really think that the noise is a bit too much when I'm driving above cca 120 km/h. Opinions? Ideas? Suggestions?

So the Logan is a bit too noisy when driving a bit faster.

Did any body do something about aditional sound isolation? A think I saw some pictures some time ago, but it's hard to find them whe I don't understand Romanian.

I really think that the noise is a bit too much when I'm driving above cca 120 km/h.

Opinions? Ideas? Suggestions?

Hello Boris,
You can pay a look at the pictures here, although, I'm not sure how much this will 'fix' your interior noise : http://www.daciaclub.ro/index.php?showtopic=10329

this is also said to reduce some of the high-speed noise.

... in fact, here dsign talks a bit about the noise reduction...

This post has been edited by vv: 27 Jun 2005, 07:59

Thanks vv!

Or just visit the homework of Klaus…

cklaus.go.ro/insonorizare_capota.htm

+ this one

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this week I managed to do some minor adjustments concerning the noise reduction. I spent almost 50 euros on some materials and I started working. It took me about 16 hours to do all the job, but in two different days. I didn't have the chance to test if at high speeds there is an improvement, but I can assure you that when deiving in the city the noises and vibrations reduced considerably.

also, I mounted some materials on the ceiling, just for thermo isolation. U can see soame picures HERE and i'll come back to give explanations if U like. Right now I'm in big hurry.

This post has been edited by Dsign: 10 Jul 2005, 17:05

That is some kind of 'ordinary' bitumen foil or something else?

I see you've taken apart the wholke car

Have you done something with the doors? That can be a significant source of noise.

Everybody mentiones that exspensive Dynamat foil for the doors and other parts of the car.

They use Aluband from DenBraven

What you think about new tyres?
I think original Barum or Montana are to "hard" and to loud.

What you think about new tyres?
I think original Barum or Montana are to "hard" and to loud.

Deffinitelly comming, but not just now. That will wait a bit.

That is some kind of 'ordinary' bitumen foil or something else?

I see you've taken apart the wholke car

Have you done something with the doors? That can be a significant source of noise.

Everybody mentiones that exspensive Dynamat foil for the doors and other parts of the car.

it's the same material as dynamat, but it's much cheaper... aluband from den braven

it's very easy to take apart the interior. once you take out the chairs, it's easy....

i didn't have time to do the doors, but I'll do that next week. somebody reccomended me to apply aluband on the exterior panel, also on the interior panle, but to cover the holes too...

it's the same material as dynamat, but it's much cheaper... aluband from den braven

The reason whay I asked because some guy wrote that he has put bitumen foil in his Clio doors, and that it has melted in a summer day. He had to take everything out.

The manufacturers of these Aluband and similar products say that it supposed to be stable on higher temperatures.

This post has been edited by Boris: 13 Jul 2005, 12:31

I understand that in Romania the operation costs up to 100 euros (for the whole floor and doors).
I will do it myself in autumn when I will have some time.
The guys are saying that it pays. The difference is noticeable.

it does not melt. I applied the aluband on the ceiling, at noon, when the roof was so hot that I couldn't get my hand on it.

it stayed 4-5 hours in the sun and did not give any sign of melting.

it costs almost 100 euros for the doors, floor and roof and yes, it is noticeable.

it does not melt. I applied the aluband on the ceiling, at noon, when the roof was so hot that I couldn't get my hand on it.

it stayed 4-5 hours in the sun and did not give any sign of melting.

it costs almost 100 euros for the doors, floor and roof and yes, it is noticeable.

What is the point appliing this on the ceiling? And what is it noteacable?

What is the point appliing this on the ceiling? And what is it noteacable?

There is a point because when the temperature is hot, especially when there is intense direct sunlight, the roof gets quite hot, and the metal transmitts the temperature inside the car. By insulating the roof, Dsign created a termic barrier which keeps the interiour a bit cooler.

PS: noticeable is the temeperature difference before and after the described operation.

So the Logan is  a bit too noisy when  driving a bit faster.

Did any body do something about aditional sound isolation? A think I saw some pictures some time ago, but it's hard to find them whe I don't understand Romanian.

I really think that the noise is a bit too much when I'm driving above cca 120 km/h.

Opinions? Ideas? Suggestions?

Maybe model with diesel engine will have isolated hood!? So that we could buy original hood isolation for Logan!?
Does anyone have information about diesel model and its hood??

PS Pozdrav svima iz SCG, Hrvatske...........

This post has been edited by DenNy: 22 Aug 2005, 12:15

Yes, will have

Yes, will have

TNX, do you know price maybe? I meen for hood isolation separate!?
Or how to order it here in Srebia?

This post has been edited by DenNy: 22 Aug 2005, 12:28

it will appear in the same time with the diesel equiped logan, or even later...

right now, in our shops there's no such thing for logan... wait until the diesel logan appears...

it will appear in the same time with the diesel equiped logan, or even later...

right now, in our shops there's no such thing for logan... wait until the diesel logan appears...

tnx, i realy hope that we could buy this isolation separately when diesel version appears.

tnx, i realy hope that we could buy this isolation separately when diesel version appears.

I agree
Something has to be done regarding noise isolation.

if u take a good look at the engine compartment, on the wall to the passenger's place, u'll see some screws... I think that there will be some insulation there , too. Well, let's wait

tnx, i realy hope that we could buy this isolation separately when diesel version appears.

How much are you ready to pay for your isolation? Please tell me which kind of isolation you prefer
Talking about insulation, I'm interested to buy such thing for my Solenza and I'm still waiting for this item to pop up on the market. Since there were 30 months of waiting, I think I'm gonna isolate myself in a place that the riot of the streets will be far and away.

I just spoke with Dacia representative in Serbia asking if it is possible to buy separately original noise insulation hood from Logan dCi. They said that this is NOT available as separate part...

This post has been edited by icatenej: 16 Dec 2005, 14:14

It's called "sound-proofing" or "sound -insulation ".
insulate (COVER)=to cover and surround something with a material or substance in order to stop heat, sound or electricity from escaping or entering:
You can insulate a house against heat loss by having the windows double-glazed
"isolation" has another use.

I just spoke with Dacia representative in Serbia asking if it is possible to buy separately original noise insulation hood from Logan dCi. They said that this is NOT available as separate part...   

I called them too. Seller told me also that " this is NOT available as separate part" and that he works with car parts for 25 years and that he never heard that someone is mounting hood isolation on petrol engine. He was quite unpolite.....
Smart ass......

He was quite  unpolite.....
Smart ass......

The guy I spoke with was more customer oriented... In fact, he said that it is strange (according to his experience) that this part is not available separately...

Well, the home made solutions are still available...

I don’t know if it is of some interest, but in Romania that piece is as spare part.
Only that is a little expensive (around 45 euro)

Piece, singular, only for hood, that much?
What happened with another piece that goes between engine and cabin?
Although it would be nice to by it here..

It's called "sound-proofing" or "sound -insulation ".
insulate (COVER)=to cover and surround something with a material or substance in order to stop heat, sound or electricity from escaping or entering:
You can insulate a house against heat loss by having the windows double-glazed
  "isolation" has another use.

Well your'e einstein indeed