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post 11 Feb 2004, 12:39
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:? sa -mi dea si mie careva o idee de ce nu pot introduce treapta I pana nu opresc de tot ? :?:


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post 11 Feb 2004, 12:59
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post 11 Feb 2004, 13:17
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nu stiu sunt cam la podea cu mecanica

cum se poate remedia treaba asta ?
e costisitoare?


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post 11 Feb 2004, 13:29
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Am inteles ca e normal sa nu poti introduce treapta I din mers. Cauza ar fi motorul. Daca ai motor mai mic de 1200 (ceea ce nu cred) poti baga I din mers. La mine personal nu primeste shi nici la o mashina pe care am condus-o (singura mashina care a primit a fost un tico).


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post 11 Feb 2004, 13:30
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Eu pot baga in treapta I in mers, dar folosesc metoda dublei debraieri.
Nu conteaza marimea motorului. (capacitatea cilindrica)


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post 11 Feb 2004, 13:34
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Livicu' trapta I este pt pornire deci e normal sa-ti intre doar de pe loc. Tu ce jmecherie vrei sa faci de-ti trebuie in mers ?


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post 11 Feb 2004, 13:34
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eu am mai mers cu cateva dacii si primeau din mers
una era ca si a mea 1310tx iar cealalta 1410

explicami si mie metoda pls


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post 11 Feb 2004, 13:37
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cand tre sa reduc sub 20/h si nu merge cu a II


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post 11 Feb 2004, 13:41
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

S-ar putea ca nelu sa aiba dreptate...

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post 11 Feb 2004, 13:42
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Metoda dublei debraiei: se calca ambreiajul, se scoate din viteza, se elibereaza pedala de ambreiaj, se da un "sprit" (o accelerare scurta), se calca pedala de ambreiaj, se introduce in treapta dorita, se elibereaza pedala de ambreiaj.
Metoda se foloseste la schimbari din trepte superioare in trepte inferioare.


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post 11 Feb 2004, 13:58
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metoda expusa de BBC are marele avantaj ca , utilizata corect, cruta sincroanele;
in plus se poate folosi si pentru schimbare de la mic la mare doar ca nu se mai aplica spritul.
sincer n-am incercat sa folosesc dublul debraiaj pentru a trece in mers de la a II-a in I-a pentru ca nu am intalnit practic situatie ca, aflat in mers, sa am nevoie de I-a; in plus, cu toate ca am condus timp de aproapre 20 de ani jde.. de dacii sau alte modele (apropo, la cielo in carte scrie clar ca nu se introduce in I-a peste 16 km/h - cum poti sa-ti dai seama ca ai fix 16 si nu 15 sau 17nu ma intrebati, e de la ei!) am luat-o ca axioma ca, din a II-a in I-a in mers nu intra.


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post 11 Feb 2004, 14:40
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La mine intra in viteza I din mers, dar face un zgomot urat. O sa incerc metoda lui BBC sa vad cum se comporta.


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post 11 Feb 2004, 14:46
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cand am zis (scris) ca din a II-a in I-a din mers nu intra, m-am referit la o schimbare normala de viteze si nicidecum vreo fortare care sa se manifeste prin caraieli, bruscare maneta schimbator etc; daca vrei cu tot inadinsul sa faci manevra din mers, o faci, cu eventualele consecinte de rigoare


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post 11 Feb 2004, 21:44
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Fratilor e normal ca o cutie normala si buna sa nu intre in viteza I nici la 5 km/h.Viteza I este numai pentru plecarea de p[e loc(ca noi o mai folosim si in mers pe teren naspa rau e alta treaba).
Deci poti sta linistit ca nu ai nici o problema cu cutia.E foarte buna.Probleme trebuie sa-si faca cei ce au cutii care intra I cand se invarte roata.Sincronul fratilor insa stati linistiti ca asta e unul din cele care nu face figuri...


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post 12 Feb 2004, 17:59
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eu zic ca e normal sa intre...
nu am mers inca pe o dacie la care sa nu intre in mers treapta 1...incepand de la 1300 si pana la solenza.


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post 12 Feb 2004, 19:27
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Nu stiu pe ce ai mers tu de la 1300 la Solentza insa prin constructie cutia de viteze nu permite introducerea vitezei I in mers.Punct.


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post 12 Feb 2004, 22:07
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Nici mie nu-mi intra in viteza I la frana de motor pana nu am schimbat placa de presiune +discul de ambreiaj ... De atunci imi intra ... Si in prea inteleg de ce ... :?:


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post 13 Feb 2004, 07:12
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ce n-am priceput este:
la ce foloseste schimbarea treptei de viteza de la a II-a in I-a in mers??????


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post 13 Feb 2004, 12:45
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Stef, tie nu-ti intra a I-a din mers?Nu pot sa cred ....


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post 13 Feb 2004, 12:48
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Eu nu vb cum trebuie sa fie prin constructie,eu spun ce se intampla practic


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post 13 Feb 2004, 12:59
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ce n-am priceput este:
la ce foloseste schimbarea treptei de viteza de la a II-a in I-a in mers??????


O sa intelegi dupa ce o sa mergi prin ceva stau-uri... icon_twisted.gif :wink:


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post 13 Feb 2004, 13:22
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hotarat, azi vineri13 sunt greu de cap: ce-i acela "stau"?


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post 13 Feb 2004, 13:43
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chiar asa ce e?


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post 14 Feb 2004, 11:40
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Stau (germana) = blocaj pe autostrada


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post 14 Feb 2004, 13:53
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dezvolta putin (plz), pentru completa mea edificare relatia "stau" cu "schimbare din a II-a in I-a din mers"


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post 14 Feb 2004, 23:49
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I find your lack of faith disturbing.


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Am incercat sa nu mai cuplez viteza I din mers si mi se pare mult mai elegant. Cutia nu mai face zgomote urate si nu mai intoarce lumea capu pe strada intrebandu-se cine merge cu cine-stie-ce rabla...

Oricand masina este in mers cat de putin sunt intr-a IIa.

Cred ca este mai sanatos si pentru cutie...


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Stau (germana) = blocaj pe autostrada


Uite cine a umblat prin Europa... :wink:

Deci un stau e o coada draguta pe autostrada, in care poti face lejer 500m in... 2-3 sau mai multe ore icon_twisted.gif Uneori se inainteaza cu 20-30km/h, dupa care, dupa citeva sute de metri se reduce viteza la cam 5km/h. Nu prea ai cum sa mergi intr-a doua si nu e sanatos sa te opresti de tot ca sa bagi intr-a-ntiia...

Cine nu a prins asa ceva, nu isi poate da seama. Poate doar cei din Bucuresti sa stie ce e aia icon_twisted.gif dar se poate spune ca in Bucuresti nu e trafic, comparativ cu ce e pe aici... icon_twisted.gif :wink:


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post 16 Feb 2004, 11:06
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mi se pare oarecum "fortata" explicatia cu acele "stau"-uri, dar am prins totusi ideea.


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post 16 Feb 2004, 12:06
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OCEBE atunci incearca o explicatie mai putin fortata : asfaltul romanesc cu tot cu gropile (pardon santurile) lui cu tot si o sa intelegi sad.gif sad.gif


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Deci un stau e o coada draguta pe autostrada, in care poti face lejer 500m in... 2-3 sau mai multe ore icon_twisted.gif Uneori se inainteaza cu 20-30km/h, dupa care, dupa citeva sute de metri se reduce viteza la cam 5km/h. Nu prea ai cum sa mergi intr-a doua si nu e sanatos sa te opresti de tot ca sa bagi intr-a-ntiia...

Autostrazile germane = cea mai mare parcare din Europa ! laugh.gif laugh.gif


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