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ab05mlw
post 3 Jun 2008, 20:31
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am cautat prin forumuri.. dar nu am gasit exact de ce am nevoie as avea nevoie de ajutor.
-ce flansa imi trebuie si de unde fac rost de ea.
-inca o problema, carb de olcit are o piesa electronica.. nush dak stiti la ce ma refer.. vine un fir acolo..(la olcit daca scoti firul merge foarte rau motorul, de unde trag firul acela ?)
-galeria?! e buna pentru carb acesta sau treba alta?


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post 3 Jun 2008, 20:45
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"firu" ala vine la electrovalva pusa pe circuitul de relanti (intrerupe alimentarea la luarea contactului-etouffoir) am impresia ca de la bobina vine dar nu sunt sigur
un posesor de nova te poate lamauri
de ce vrei carburator de oltcit? sa stii ca daca nu gasesti unul bine reglat si curat o sa ai mare bataie de cap cu el.

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post 3 Jun 2008, 20:48
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iti dai foc la valiza singur..


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post 3 Jun 2008, 20:49
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hmm carb care il am acuma a fost de pe o dacie.. dar omu nu mai are flansa... si azi cand am fost la el nu o avut timp de discutii era ocupat. cu ce as putea sa il spal sa nu stric ceva prin el(e putin prafuit.)am un prieten care 20 si ceva de ani o lucrat numai pe olcituri, ma gandesc ca o sa aiba habar sa il regleze.

inca ceva, carb de olcit are intrare benzina si iesire, retur ma gandesc.. eu cum le pun la mine ? returul e in pompa... la dacie.
astept sa imi zica cineva care`i treaba cu flansa. ms mult.



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post 3 Jun 2008, 20:49
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Daca scoti firul si motorul nu se opreste carburatorul este dereglat.Posibil varful acului din electrovalva a fost taiat s-au treapta doi este prea deschisa.firul poti sa il legi pe + bobina inductie.


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@argon

nu e chiar asa,daca e reglat merge si trage mai bine decat cu cel de dacie
si la acelasi consum
cu un filtru de solenza sau matiz nici nu se mai infunda

carburatorul il speli in carburol daca gasesti
cred ca iti trebuie galerie de papuc,ma indoiesc ca merge pus cu flansa la cata dihania e...

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post 3 Jun 2008, 20:52
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QUOTE(argon @ 3 Jun 2008, 20:48)
iti dai foc la valiza singur..
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de ce ?

3 Jun 2008, 20:53:
electro valva merge... acum am probat-o.

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post 3 Jun 2008, 20:55
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pentru ca e un carburator dificil, greu de reglat, si usor de dereglat, cu ce ti-a gresit carburatorul carfil simplu? Daca e reglat nu ai nevoie de altul, daca ala ti se pare greu de reglat, stai sa vezi ala de oltcit.


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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:01
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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:01
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Eletrovalva se foloseste cu un montaj eebio sau se monteaza un mic intrerupator prin care v-a alimenta eletrovalva la +12V doar in frana de motor poti actiona acel intrerupator in asa fel relantiiul sa fie blocat. Mai performat e realizarea schemei eletronice EEBIO care controleaza eletrovalva. Carburatorul de oltcit se regleaza usor ....


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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:03
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QUOTE(djasu82 @ 3 Jun 2008, 21:01)
Eletrovalva se foloseste cu un montaj eebio sau se monteaza un mic intrerupator prin care v-a alimenta eletrovalva la +12V doar in frana de motor poti actiona acel intrerupator in asa fel relantiiul sa fie blocat. Mai performat e realizarea schemei eletronice EEBIO care controleaza eletrovalva. Carburatorul de oltcit se regleaza usor ....
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iar vorbesti prostii
electrovalva e tot timpul alimentata, ca daca nu ar fi nu ar tine relantiul
poate in frana de motor sa NU se mai alimenteze electrovalva si astfel circuitul de relanti sa fie blocat.


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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:04
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da-l in amaru lui. sunt oameni care stiu sa faca asta, si alti(ca mine, sa nu il deregleze.)
astept o parere pentru flansa de unde fac rost.


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am zis ca iti trebuie galerie de papuc,nu flansa
e prea mare sa il poti pune cu vreo flansa

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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:07
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si cum il prind pe galeria de papcuc ?
carb asta de olcit, se prinde in 4 surburui(sau prezoane, cun le zice) si galeria de papuc are 2... deci o flansa tot trebuie.


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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:08
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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:12
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deci galeia de papcu dublu copt merege sa prind carb de olcit fara nici o flansa ?


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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:22
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pai atunci nu mai vb daca numai va dati parerea. vreau ceva concret si la subierct. multumesc pentru ajutorul cu electrovalva.


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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:26
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Te-a rugat cineva sa vorbesti cu noi???

Du-te la magazinu' de piese auto, ia o "galeie de papcu copt" in mana, in cealalta carburatoru' ala de l-ai primit mocca (altfel nu se explica pofta ta nebuna de a-l pune pe masina) si-ncearca sa le-mbuci. In felu' asta-ti dai cu parerea singur. Si nu-ti mai bati gura cu noi de pomana.

Edit: fa-l pe dracu-n patru si pune bijuteria pe motor. Nu stie nimeni concret cat de bine vine carbu' de Oltean pe Dacie ori pe galeia de papcu pentru ca noi suntem nevolnici. Ne trebuia un pionier, un om hotarat care sa faca primul isprava asta. Tu esti ala!

Subbcese!

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(te-ai ofticat ? am intrat pe acest forum sa primesc un ajutor concret.. nu fa asa ca poate merge. gata cu offtopicul si cu certele.. sunt putin cam obosit..)


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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:36
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ab05mlw bine ai intrat pe barfa forumului .... totusi carbul de oltcit nu e prea mic pentru motorul tau de 1400 ?
ArtVandelay un control mai bun tot prin EEBIO e mai eficient . Asa pentru probe da se alimenteaza la 12V desi fara protectie se v-a strica cu timpul si costa cam 50 de lei o noua eletrovalva.


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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:40
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intreba-te daca mai gasesc(pun una de la masina de spalat=))))
acuma caut schema EEBIO si nush pe unde ii...biggrin.gif


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post 3 Jun 2008, 21:41
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poate te ajuta......

electrovalva din cate stiu e pana in 10 ron...ma indoiesc ca e 50 ron o bobina micuta (ca practic asta e)

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ms, acum cercetez.. sper sa pot pune carb ala pe dacie.. :|


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na-i specificat e de club 11 sau trs? sau sunt la fel? ca si eu am club11


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solex cu liceenta carafil.... am inteles care-i treaba cu schema aia dar nu se vede prea bine..biggrin.gif


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aha... deci probabil e ca al meu... si pe mine ma batu gandu la un mom dat sa ii pun carbul de oltcit..


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QUOTE(ArtVandelay @ 3 Jun 2008, 21:41)
[...]electrovalva din cate stiu e pana in 10 ron...[...]

12-15 ron, functie de magazin, 12 ron era acum 2 ani. Perimate moral fiind, tot ala e pretul.


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QUOTE(argon @ 3 Jun 2008, 20:48)
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desigur DA....30% prin oras.... radmasa.gif


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Nu ia 30% nici daca il bati cu ciocanul.La un carburator cu componentele bune,dar dereglat,consumul e de max 15-18%.


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