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> Am 3500 euroi, Ce cazan imi iau imi spuneti voi?

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post 9 Jul 2009, 11:41
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si la capitolu bani


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post 9 Jul 2009, 11:43
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Un Megane 1 bun face in UE 1500-2000 de euro, si la orice capitol e mult peste orice Solnita din '83 toamna cu 3000 de euro in Romania, adica tot UE.


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post 9 Jul 2009, 11:53
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da dar istoricu poate sa fie mai negru, eu unu daca asi avea acum 3500e asi lua un ford fiesta de prin 2004-2005 1.3motorina care nu are nici un grad de comparatie cu nici una din ce sa vorbit pana acum.


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post 9 Jul 2009, 11:54
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Norocul tau ca nu ai acei bani. smile.gif


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post 9 Jul 2009, 11:55
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post 9 Jul 2009, 11:58
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biggrin.gif degeaba zici ca e buna o fiesta si la consum e ca si cum ai mere pe datorie


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post 9 Jul 2009, 11:59
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QUOTE(slider2 @ 9 Jul 2009, 12:24)
fi mai explicit.
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ma refeream in general la faptul ca daca ar fi adaptat pe logan solutii tehnice de pe megane pastrand acelasi pret, poate megane-ul si-ar fi pierdut din clienti in favoare loganului. Bine, nu e cazul unui reglaj de faruri, eu am extrapolat putin.


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post 9 Jul 2009, 14:20
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QUOTE(stx @ 9 Jul 2009, 11:58)
biggrin.gif  degeaba zici ca e buna o fiesta si la consum e ca si cum ai mere pe datorie
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te-ai gandit vreun pic la intretinere?? toata lumea se umezeste cand vede pe cb-ul de diesel consumuri de 5%, dar cand aud cat costa un injector, sau cand platesc o intretinere cu vreo 30% fata de un benzinar, sa vezi ce pisa ochii.

QUOTE(Steel Tormentor @ 9 Jul 2009, 11:59)
ma refeream in general la faptul ca daca ar fi adaptat pe logan solutii tehnice de pe megane pastrand acelasi pret, poate megane-ul si-ar fi pierdut din clienti in favoare loganului. Bine, nu e cazul unui reglaj de faruri, eu am extrapolat putin.
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acum am inteles ce vroiai sa zici. eu ma refeream tocmai la aceste mici detalii, gen reglajul farurilor, un satelit audio la volan, chichite din acestea care nu sunt cine stie ce, dar imbunatatesc comfortul la volan, si dau si o tusa de atentie la nevoile clientului din partea producatorului.


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post 9 Jul 2009, 14:23
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Cred ca forumul asta e locul in care se raporteaza cele mai multe cazuri de injectoare diesel "bulite", mai ales de orice altceva decat dCi.


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post 9 Jul 2009, 20:01
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Mai aici vorbim si de oaresce masini nu buburuze "Fiesta"-la naiba


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post 10 Jul 2009, 08:23
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QUOTE(vijelie @ 9 Jul 2009, 12:54)
Norocul tau ca nu ai acei bani. smile.gif
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post 12 Jul 2009, 17:43
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pana la urma ce cazan ti-ai luat?


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post 12 Jul 2009, 20:14
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vezi ca pe la lira era un Kalos din 2008 cu putini km cam pe la 4000 de euro.
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post 13 Jul 2009, 00:56
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Daca Fiesta-i buburuza, kalosu' ce e? nedumerire.gif


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post 13 Jul 2009, 05:52
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post 13 Jul 2009, 06:40
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post 13 Jul 2009, 09:44
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am 2 prieteni care au buburuze (FIESTA) si sa stii ca nu e chiar asa de scumpa intretinerea intradevar e mai scumputa dar slider2 u dai mai mult la revizie decat ei, e la fel cat o solenza in interior, si se invige mai bine decat orige logan ,in concluzie cred ca merita 3500 de euro o fiesta


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post 13 Jul 2009, 13:39
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hmmm.... kit distributie complet plus manopera 850ron.... intr-adevar e cam scumpa intretinerea unui megane1....


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post 13 Jul 2009, 15:40
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pai la logan ma costat 3 mil schimbarea distributiei wink.gif 1.5 piesele si 1.5 manopera smile.gif


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post 13 Jul 2009, 15:43
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e altceva la un motor SOHC tongue.gif



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post 13 Jul 2009, 16:37
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Ford nu e dacie si nici renault,zic eu, chiar daca e mai scumpa intretinerea,nu e la fel de scumpa ca cea de renault rolleyes.gif


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post 13 Jul 2009, 19:53
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QUOTE(C@talin @ 13 Jul 2009, 15:40)
pai la logan ma costat 3 mil schimbarea distributiei wink.gif 1.5 piesele si 1.5 manopera smile.gif
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comparam renault cu ford, nu cu dacia, ca e logic sa fie mai ieftin la modelele autohtone. plus ca e vorba si de alt tip de motor, cum a zis si artvandelay.

QUOTE(stx @ 13 Jul 2009, 16:37)
Ford nu e dacie si nici renault,zic eu, chiar daca e mai scumpa intretinerea,nu e la fel de scumpa ca cea de renault rolleyes.gif
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pai nu stiu exact ce sa zic, eu am auzit ca fordul n-ar fi asa de ieftior la intretinere, dar nu stiu cazuri concrete. cel mai bine ne-ar spune artvandelay cat costa o distributie la focusul lui (e model contemporan cu al meu) si am face o comparatie, ca asa din auzite...


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post 13 Jul 2009, 20:01
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nu stiu ca nu am schimbat-o, am luat masina cu 112.000 si distributia se schimba la 90, dar din cate am citit pe forumul ford kitul(curea+rola) costa 250-270 ron, manopera variaza probabil ~200 ron
motorul e in 16v si nu se schimba si pompa de apa

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post 13 Jul 2009, 20:26
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deci la modelul tau ar fi un avantaj ca se schimba la 90.000km, iar la renault o data la 4 ani in limita a 60.000km. si inca un mic avantaj ca e un pic mai ieftin, dar la mine se schimba si pompa de apa.
e posibil la fiesta sa fie mai ieftina, sau nu, depinde si de motor...


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QUOTE(stx @ 13 Jul 2009, 10:44)
se invige mai bine decat orige logan


radmasa.gif Da, la 60 si ceva de cai, precis se "infige" mai bine si decat Loganul de 105 cai. Baga si tu ceva date concrete (acceleratia de la 0 la 100km/h) sa vedem daca e chiar asa. wink.gif

L.E. Loganul 1.6 16V accelereaza de la 0 la 100km/h in 10"20. Care din motorizarile de mai jos "se infige mai bine"?

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Si astea sunt de pe noul Fiesta, cele vechi probabil erau si mai slabute.
Pana si Loganul de 1.6 de 87 CP se "infige" mai bine decat Fordul de 96 CP si asta conform fabricantului nu dupa ce am auzit "de la un prieten"

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post 13 Jul 2009, 20:37
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@slider2 daca vrei sa faci comparatia cu un diesel icon_mrgreen.gif .... kit-ul(curea, rola intinzatoare, rola ghidaj, pompa de apa) + manopera de la 650 (cele mai ieftine) pana la aprox 800 (acelasi producator care echipeaza masina de noua). si in tarile fara praf se schimba la 10 ani sau 240k km (in Romania cam la jumate). tongue.gif


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post 13 Jul 2009, 20:40
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am eu un cazan...de facut palinca biggrin.gif
uite cum se infinge un logan...film facut cand avea 90 cp acum are 115
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post 13 Jul 2009, 20:45
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3.5 milioane kit+manopera, focus 1.


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QUOTE(gattoman @ 13 Jul 2009, 20:37)
@slider2 daca vrei sa faci comparatia cu un diesel  icon_mrgreen.gif .... kit-ul(curea, rola intinzatoare, rola ghidaj, pompa de apa) + manopera de la 650 (cele mai ieftine) pana la aprox 800 (acelasi producator care echipeaza masina de noua). si in tarile fara praf se schimba la 10 ani sau 240k km (in Romania cam la jumate).   tongue.gif
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e bine atunci. eu citisem un post al unui coleg forumist cu un mondeo tdci, care se vaita de vreo 3000ron revizia de 60.000km, si mi-a lasat o impresia ciudata, nu ma asteptam ca ford sa aibe intretinere asa scumpa...

@vladrehau si turbina ce zice??

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mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr biggrin.gif ce sa zica fluiera de bucurie nu o auzi?


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