Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+ Toyota opreste productia si vanzarile in US, La 8 modele cu probleme la acceleratie/frana

e oficial. Baietii care s-au grabit sa dea vina pe soferii americani, ca vezi doamne is idioti si ca toyotele nu au nimic, doar s-au grabit. Nici nhtsa , nici toyota nu stiu nimic de asta Toyota has officially spoken out against allegations that it planted a story in The Wall Street Journal that attributed the majority of the company's unintended acceleration woes to driver error rather than entrapped floor mats or faulty software. The Japanese company's American arm emailed a statement to Just-Auto saying that no one within Toyota has any access to the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration's research, and that no one in the government agency had reported any findings to the automaker. As you may recall, The Wall Street Journal article cited "people familiar with" the NHTSA's research on the Toyota unintended acceleration problem. It wasn't long before fingers began pointing back at Toyota for supposedly planting the story with the WSJ. Just-Auto originally cited a spokesperson with the NHTSA who said that the information that the publication used came from Toyota. In its defense, Toyota has said that any reports that claim that the company planted a news story are absolutely false. In its independent research, Toyota has found a number of causes of unintended acceleration, one of which happens to be "pedal misapplication." For those of us that don't speak corporate, that would be driver error. Whether that means that someone at the The Wall Street Journal managed to get their sources crossed or whether the NHTSA is simply trying to cover its bases after leaking otherwise confidential information remains to be seen. http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/19/followu...ations-it-plan/ This post has been edited by R19/16v: 19 Jul 2010, 20:48

e oficial. Baietii care s-au grabit sa dea vina pe soferii americani, ca vezi doamne is idioti si ca toyotele nu au nimic, doar s-au grabit. Nici nhtsa , nici toyota nu stiu nimic de asta

Toyota has officially spoken out against allegations that it planted a story in The Wall Street Journal that attributed the majority of the company's unintended acceleration woes to driver error rather than entrapped floor mats or faulty software. The Japanese company's American arm emailed a statement to Just-Auto saying that no one within Toyota has any access to the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration's research, and that no one in the government agency had reported any findings to the automaker.

As you may recall, The Wall Street Journal article cited "people familiar with" the NHTSA's research on the Toyota unintended acceleration problem. It wasn't long before fingers began pointing back at Toyota for supposedly planting the story with the WSJ. Just-Auto originally cited a spokesperson with the NHTSA who said that the information that the publication used came from Toyota.

In its defense, Toyota has said that any reports that claim that the company planted a news story are absolutely false. In its independent research, Toyota has found a number of causes of unintended acceleration, one of which happens to be "pedal misapplication." For those of us that don't speak corporate, that would be driver error. Whether that means that someone at the The Wall Street Journal managed to get their sources crossed or whether the NHTSA is simply trying to cover its bases after leaking otherwise confidential information remains to be seen.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/19/followu...ations-it-plan/

This post has been edited by R19/16v: 19 Jul 2010, 20:48

Toyota va rechema 412.000 de automobile scumpe în SUA, pentru posibile probleme de direcţie

Publicat: 29 Iulie 2010


Toyota a anunţat joi că va rechema 412.000 de automobile high-end în Statele Unite pentru a verifica şi remedia posibile probleme la sistemul de direcţie.


Astfel, grupul japonez va rechema 373.000 de modele sedan Avalon fabricate în perioada 2000-2004, deoarece sistemul de direcţie al acestor autoturisme poate ceda în anumite condiţii, se arată într-un comunicat al Toyota.

De asemenea, campania vizează 39.000 de modele SUV LX470 din anii 2003-2007 care prezintă un risc ridicat de defectare a sistemului de direcţie.

Toyota a primit mai multe plângeri legate de accidente în care au fost implicate modele Avalon, fără a se înregistra victime omeneşti, potrivit unui purtător de cuvânt al companiei.

Acesta nu a precizat dacă accidentele au fost cauzate de aceeaşi defecţiune pentru care are loc campania de rechemare.

Reputaţia, dar şi cotaţia bursieră a grupului Toyota au fost afectate semnificativ în ultimele luni de numeroasele campanii de rechemare derulate în Statele Unite şi pe plan global din cauza apariţiei unui număr mare de plângeri privind defecţiuni la anumite modele. Numai din toamna anului trecut, grupul a rechemat pentru verificări peste zece milioane de autoturisme în întreaga lume, mai mult decât vânzările anuale.

SURSA: Mediafax


http://www.capital.ro/articol/toyota-va-re...tie-137568.html

Newsflash: NHTSA zice ca cica nu prea ar fi Toyota de vina pentru accidentele in care se blameaza franele sau accelerarea subita si necontrolata a masinilor:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/n...f-1225903792334

DRIVERS were at fault for failing to brake in most of the cases of "runaway" Toyota vehicles investigated by US safety regulators, a report presented to lawmakers overnight found.

A review of data recorders from 58 Toyotas involved in crashes where drivers said their cars had sped out of control showed the brakes were not applied at all in 35 cases, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration found.
Toyota has seen its reputation badly damaged after it recalled around 10 million vehicles worldwide because of dangerous defects, many involving "sticky" gas pedal problems that could cause vehicles to speed out of control [...]
The NHTSA reviewed the event data recorders of 58 Toyota vehicles involved in crashes where drivers reported sudden, unintended acceleration.
Some 35 of the recorders showed that the brake was not applied at all and one recorder showed that both the brake and gas pedal were depressed.
Another 14 cases involved partial braking: nine of those had brakes applied late in the crash sequence; three involved early braking and two involved mid-event braking.
One incident involved a case of pedal entrapment.
In seven cases, the event record was not triggered by the crash, did not contain information related to the crash, or contained inconclusive information

in cazurile respective poate, ca nu cred ca nhtsa a tras concluzia finala. Iarasi marketing by toyota?

A zis cineva ceva aici de concluzie finala?

http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/toyo...0811-11z19.html

An investigation into accidents involving Toyotas with sticking accelerator pedals has found that human error may have played a major part.

Most drivers involved in Toyota's now-infamous "unintended acceleration" crashes didn't hit the brakes before impact, an investigation by the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has found.
A report in US car industry publication Automotive News says administration investigators found that the brakes hadn't been applied in 60 per cent of the crashes blamed on sticking Toyota accelerator pedals.
The crashes led to a recall of more than 7.5 million Toyota vehicles in the US for sticking accelerator pedals.
The Automotive News report says investigators have studied the black box-style data recorders in the cars involved, which begin recording just before an airbag is deployed [...]

pai tu afirmi ca nu prea ar fi vina toyotei De parca setinta e definitiva si irevocabila

Adica stai asa sa ma lamuresc si eu ... De fapt NTSHA spune ca americanii sunt niste idioti care nu calca frana cand vad ca se indreapta ca berbecii spre un obstacol? Si ca de fapt toyotele nu au nimic si acceleratia nu se "sticky" asa de una singura?
Ma miram eu sa se blocheze asa din senin acceleratia aia .... si ce mai tam tam a fost facut .... mai mai sa fiu luat la "bataie" de cunoscuti pentru ca mi-am cumparat toyota .... Se prevestea apocalipsa pentru toti cei care aveau toyote... Cei care aveau toyote umau sa moara cu totii pentru ca simultan se bloca acceleratia, frana nu mai megea si ambreiajul nu mai debraia...
sa mori de ras nu alta.. Da acu toyota cam ce ar trebui sa faca? sa-i puna pe aia care nu au calcat frana sa plateasca toate rechemarile in service? Eu cre ca asa ar fi corect.....

Sa inteleg ca in cazul in care ma prinde radarul nu mai pot sa motivez cu faptul ca se blocase acceleratia?

This post has been edited by nairam: 11 Aug 2010, 14:37

Si daca se blocheaza acceleratia apasarea franei rezolva problema instant. La orice masina, nu doar Toyota. Am incercat sa vad cum se comporta o masina de 400+cp(nu era cazul Toyotelor...) cand franezi in timp ce tii gazul la podea.. A inghetat. O mica diferenta fata de cazul in care franezi fara sa accelerezi.

TOYOTA are probleme din nou.

DETROIT | Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:21pm EDT

DETROIT (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp said on Thursday it would recall 1.3 million Corolla and Matrix cars in the United States and Canada because of defective engine control modules that could cause the vehicles to stall.


The recall of the Corolla and Matrix cars adds to the 11 million vehicles Toyota has recalled in the past year, mostly for unintended acceleration, denting its reputation for quality and gaining intense scrutiny by U.S. safety regulators.


Toyota said it had unconfirmed reports of three accidents and one minor injury in the United States in connection with the problems with the units on vehicles from the 2005 through 2008 model years. It will replace the modules.

The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on August 18 intensified a probe into reports of stalling in the vehicles from the 2005 through 2007 model years, upgrading a preliminary investigation opened in November 2009.

"The engine can stall at any speed without warning and not restart," NHTSA said in a report on its website.

Toyota spokesman John Hanson said four of 32 engine control modules obtained from cars in service and four malfunctioned during tests that subjected them to extreme heat and cold, prompting the decision to replace the components.

The recall covers 1.13 million vehicles in the United States and 200,300 in Canada, Toyota said. Toyota Canada said it had no reports of accidents or injuries.

Toyota was the builder of record for the Vibe, which was produced at the New United Motor Manufacturing Inc plant in California that had been a joint venture between the Japanese automaker and GM. Toyota also built Corollas at NUMMI.

Toyota said cracks could develop in some of the connections on an electronic component that prevents excessive voltage, in some cases resulting in harsh shifting, a failure to start the car or stalling.

Toyota identified the component manufacturer as Delphi in a letter to NHTSA on Thursday. The vehicles under the U.S. recall were built from April 2004 to early January 2008. It opted to conduct a recall on August 19.

James Bell, executive market analyst at Kelley Blue Book's kbb.com, said Toyota had been moving beyond the recalls that dented its reputation before the recall, but its candor would go a long way toward mitigating long-term damage.

"As if to rub gasoline in Toyota's already painful wounds, this round of recalls is in response to consumer complaints of unexpected and therefore dangerous engine stalling, rather than the equally unexpected acceleration problems earlier this year," Bell said.

Toyota said owners would receive notices about the recall starting in mid-September and would receive a notification later when replacement parts are available.

Hanson declined to discuss the cost of the recall, which will include the modules as well as labor.

GM discontinued the Pontiac brand last year and Vibe owners also will receive a recall notice starting in mid-September and one when the module can be replaced, GM spokesman Alan Adler said. GM dealers will perform the repairs.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67P3Y220100826

Principalul producator nipon de automobile, Toyota Motors, se afla in mijlocul unui scandal de ascundere timp de opt ani a unui defect de productie care afecta siguranta consumatorului, relateaza AFP citat de NewsIn

Toyota acuzata ca ascunde defectiuni tehnice ale masinilor

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(Reuters) - U.S. auto safety regulators have stepped up a probe into the risk that up to 1.2 million Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T) Corolla and Matrix vehicles could stall due to defective electronic engine control units.

Regulators began an engineering analysis on August 18 into the reports of stalling in Corolla and Matrix cars from the 2005, 2006 and 2007 model years.

The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration had received 26 complaints of vehicles stalling when it opened a preliminary evaluation at the end of November 2009. It reported 163 complaints when it opened the engineering analysis.

The investigation, which said Toyota had found two potential causes of production defects in the engine control units, comes in a period of intense scrutiny for Toyota, which has recalled about 11 million vehicles in the past year.

"The engine can stall at any speed without warning and not restart," NHTSA said in a report on its website.

A Toyota representative could not be reached immediately for comment. In a March 2 letter to NHTSA, Toyota's North American regulatory affairs manager Chris Santucci had said it did not believe the alleged defect "creates an unreasonable risk to motor vehicle safety."

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67M5GD20100823

This post has been edited by fansuv: 30 Aug 2010, 19:18

Toyota are probele nasoale de tot in USA- DUPA aceea cu frana care nu mai tinea ! IN USA au pierdut foarte multi clienti si acum iar au dat de belea.

IN USA FORD A CRESCUT CU 9%, iar toyota a scazut cu 35%.
Toyota - 1,53 milioane de maşini cu probleme la sistemul de frânare şi pompa de combustibil, rechemate în service.
CAT COSTA SA REPARI 1,5 MILIOANE DE MASINI! Daca la fiecare pui 100 $ suma devine uriasa!

Anunţul vine la mai puţin de două luni după ce Toyota, cel mai mare constructor auto din lume, a rechemat 1,3 milioane de maşini din modelele Corolla şi Matrix în SUA şi Canada, care prezintă dispozitive pentru controlul motorului defecte.

UNDE O SA AJUNGA cu atatea probleme- unele foarte grave.

http://www.zf.ro/business-international/to...service-7515398

This post has been edited by fansuv: 21 Oct 2010, 16:05

CE DE AMENZI AU LUAT PANA AU INCEPUT sa recunosca probleme grave tehnice. Pana acum ziceau ca e de vina soferul, neatentia, covorasul....

ACUM RECUNOSC IMEDIAT DE FRICA!


http://www.euronews.net/2010/10/21/another...all-for-toyota/

More costly troubles for the world’s biggest carmaker.

Toyota has said it will have to carry out repairs on 1.53 million of its vehicles worldwide.

The Toyota Avelon and other models – including some in its high-end Lexus range – have problems with the seal on the brake master cylinder or wiring for their fuel pumps.

Most of the vehicles that are to be recalled are in the United States and Japan.

The announcement comes just weeks after a recall of 1.3 million Corolla and Matrix cars in north America to fix defective engine control modules that could cause them to stall.
Toyota has already recalled more than 10 million vehicles in the past year, mostly for unintended acceleration.

That has dented its reputation for quality and attracted intense scrutiny from US safety regulators.

AToyota spokesman said the cars subject to repairs are sold worldwide, including in Europe, China, South America, Africa and Oceania.

The spokesman stressed no accidents were reported from the two defects.

He said Toyota does not disclose estimates for recall costs, and had no comment on whether the repairs would have any impact on its earnings.

Copyright © 2010 euronews

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DE AICI

http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/21/autos/toyo...ex.htm?hpt=Sbin

INTELEG CA POTI RAMANE BRUSC FARA FRANA! Pierzi lichidul- no brake!

This post has been edited by fansuv: 22 Oct 2010, 19:31

Saga continuă: Toyota, acuzată că a cumpărat în secret maşinile cu probleme de la clienţi.

    Producătorul auto Toyota ar fi răscumpărat în secret de la clienţii americani maşinile cu defecţiuni la sistemul de viteze în încercarea de a ascunde aceste probleme de autorităţile americane şi de public, informează Reuters.
    Răscumpărarea presupunea încheierea unor înţelegeri de confidenţialitate prin care clienţii se obligau să nu povestească nimănui despre problemele întâlnite la maşină şi să nu dea în judecată compania, se arată într-o plângere adresată de procurori unui tribunal american.
    Plângerea menţionează documente interne ale companiei în care tehnicienii şi managerii de service prezentau probleme legate de viteză asemănătoare celor declarate de clienţi.
    De asemenea, este prezentată şi confirmarea de către companie a ascunderii acestor probleme faţă de autorităţile americane.
    Dosarul anchetei, de peste 700 de pagini plus alte sute în care sunt prezentate cazuri de maşini cu probleme legate de pedala de acceleraţie, a fost înaintat miercuri Curţii districtuale din Santa Ana, California.
    Joi, Toyota a recunoscut într-o declaraţie de presă că a răscumpărat autovehicule de la clienţii care s-au plâns de accelerarare neintenţionată a maşinilor, dar că această politică a fost aplicată doar în vederea unor "analize mai amănunţite" a maşinilor.

Sursa iniţială: REUTERS

Ma mira faptul ca toyota ascunde defectiunile si nu declara reparatiile din service. De ce nu declara cand toate firmele declara ? Cam ciudat. Nu cred ca VW sau Renault ar face asa ceva.

This post has been edited by fansuv: 4 Nov 2010, 18:52

Adevaru' e ca renault a declarat de nu s-a vazut si treaba cu axul de la pedala de frana de la logan, si treaba cu fisurile la oalele fata...

Ma mir. A cumparat cumva masini Renault de la clienti si i-a pus sa semneze ca nu vor declara nimic de defectiuni?

This post has been edited by fansuv: 4 Nov 2010, 19:41

E, nu te mai mira, ca asta a fost realitatea...

Lasa ca si rugina la oalele spate de la Logan au ascuns-o. Noroc ca au fost niste jurnalisti care au descoperit, iar astia de la Renault au musamalizat treaba, vezi doamne ei se gandeau sa rezolve. Nu am timp acum, dar parca as cauta articolul ala care trebuia sa apara in Franta si nu a mai aparut.

This post has been edited by IRONICK: 5 Nov 2010, 11:24

Dar au cumparat masinile?

Toyota recalls 1.7 million vehicles26/01 16:34 CET

1.700.000 de masini - marea majoritate in usa.

Another massive recall by Toyota to fix problems with its cars and another blow to the Japanese firm’s efforts to restore its reputation for quality.

More than 1.7 million vehicles worldwide need to have various faults fixed on different models including faulty fuel pumps, pressure sensors and spare tyre housings. This brings Toyota’s total number of recalls to nearly 16 million since late 2009.

The situation is different from last year, when Toyota attracted intense scrutiny from US safety regulators over unintended acceleration problems that were blamed for fatalities.

But the latest recalls could make it harder for Toyota to convince investors it has put its quality problems behind it.

The previous recalls hit its sales, particularly in the US, where it was the only major manufacturer not to increase the number of vehicles sold last year.

http://www.euronews.net/2011/01/26/toyota-...llion-vehicles/

si.. marea concluzie. Au fost probleme la masinile incriminate, pentru ca altfel nu vad de ce toyota ar fi incheiat in Sua o intelegere (adica va plati ) 1.4 miliarde de dolari ca daune pentru clientii afectati de probleme. Si ca sa fie treaba si mai buna, vor instala un dispozitiv care va taia acceleratia in cazul in care sunt apasate simultan acceleratia si frana.

In the past 10 years, the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has received nearly 3,100 complaints about sudden acceleration issues in Toyota vehicles. Those complaints alleged 93 deaths, but the Administration has confirmed a direct link in just five of them.

The issue made headlines in 2009 after a wrongly installed floor mat on a loaner Lexus ES caused the vehicle to crash, resulting in the death of the driver and his three passengers.

Toyota was forced to recall 7.1 million vehicles in the U.S. and another 5.3 in the rest of the world over the issue and was slapped with US$70 million in fines by the NHTSA as it failed to recall the affected vehicles on time.

Moreover, the Congress conducted its own investigation and even summoned Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda to testify after company documents revealing that the company knew about the problems but didn’t act in order to save money came to light.

On Wednesday, December 26, the Japanese carmaker agreed to settle the resulting lawsuits. Its attorneys said that the settlement is worth between US$1.2-1.4 billion, which makes it the largest-ever in the automotive sector.

Toyota said the money will "cover the estimated costs of the economic loss settlement and possible resolution costs of civil litigation brought in California by the District Attorney of Orange County and an investigation by a multistate group of Attorneys General stemming from previous recalls."

Apart from paying owners and former owners of its cars, Toyota will also install a brake-override system, which cuts the throttle when it detects simultaneous signals to accelerate and brake, in more than 2.7 million vehicles and extend warranty coverage up to 150,000 miles on 16.3 million vehicles.

Christopher P. Reynolds, group vice president and general counsel of Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. and chief legal officer of Toyota Motor North America said:

"This agreement marks a significant step forward for our company, one that will enable us to put more of our energy, time and resources into Toyota's central focus: making the best vehicles we can for our customers and doing everything we can to meet their needs."

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/12/toyot...billion-to.html

tot e bine ca au platit pt costcutting
psa la motorul THP prezent la diverse modele, (dezvoltat impreuna cu bmw) are grave probleme la distributia pe lant care se uzeaza prematur si poate duce la defecte mult mai grave. s-au facut ca ploua. problema de design exista. nu o vor remedia sub nici o forma. la unii proprietari ai aceptat reparatia pe garantie, la unii doar partial dar la majoritatea nu au vrut sa auda..


in fine, la toyota e esential altceva. din cele 93 de morti DOAR 5 pot fi legate de problema aia de carpeta. in rest sunt dobitocii care au apasat pe acceleratie in loc de frana. si am vazut live asa ceva la noi in tara 2 cazuri, plus cateva exemple la rusi filmate. toate femei.

Toyota a depășit GM și va redeveni cel mai mare producător auto în 2012

http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/toyota-a-de...2012-48773.html

http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/26/news/compa...a-gm/index.html

Oricat se chinuie americanii sa le bage bete in roate, tot luzari raman. La fel ca Renault.

This post has been edited by IRONICK: 28 Dec 2012, 16:22

Bai fratilor sincer nu vad care e problema exacta? Ca au murit 90 de americani tampiti (care oricum ii vezi doar infipti cu mustangurile prin pereti) ? Poate ca sunt eu mai sadic dar si renault si bmw si vw toate au probleme nu numai toyota si totusi sunt clienti care le iubesc(aici ma refer si la loganul care rugineste si totusi e apreciat ,si la renault care costa piesele o avere si fix pix si la bmw care cum am vazut la un coleg de pe forum i se distrusese intr-un timp scurt oalele de pe fata de la amortizoare si flansele si la mai multe modele.) Tineti minte ca cel care le proiecteaza tot om este si sa gresesti e omeneste .

Ca au murit 90 de americani tampiti (care oricum ii vezi doar infipti cu mustangurile prin pereti)

mai bine calculezi cati se impusca intre ei

Bine zis,Sa ii lasam pe romanii care lauda loganul dupa ce au trebuit mai multe incercari la testul elanului sa nu se rastoarne ) .
In america teoretic moare un om la 10 minute din cauza armelor de foc.... Deci 90 de oameni in cativa ani e jucarie

Toyota a depășit GM și va redeveni cel mai mare producător auto în 2012

http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/toyota-a-de...2012-48773.html

http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/26/news/compa...a-gm/index.html

Oricat se chinuie americanii sa le bage bete in roate, tot luzari raman. La fel ca Renault.

pai explica-mi de ce, daca toyota e nevinovata , totusi plateste vreo 1,4 miliarde de dolari astfel incat povestea sa se inchida?Te pomenesti ca au dat din bunatatea inimii lor Si in plus de ce mai monteaza dispozitivul ala anti-acceleratie nebuna, daca toyota nu are probleme cu acceleratia scapata de sub control?

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tot e bine ca au platit pt costcutting
psa la motorul THP prezent la diverse modele, (dezvoltat impreuna cu bmw) are grave probleme la distributia pe lant care se uzeaza prematur si poate duce la defecte mult mai grave. s-au facut ca ploua. problema de design exista. nu o vor remedia sub nici o forma. la unii proprietari ai aceptat reparatia pe garantie, la unii doar partial dar la majoritatea nu au vrut sa auda..
in fine, la toyota e esential altceva. din cele 93 de morti DOAR 5 pot fi legate de problema aia de carpeta. in rest sunt dobitocii care au apasat pe acceleratie in loc de frana. si am vazut live asa ceva la noi in tara 2 cazuri, plus cateva exemple la rusi filmate. toate femei.

nu e esential altceva ci un defect de fabricatie. Si vezi ca acolo nu zice ca ar fi murit din cauza presului buclucas ci din cauza accelerarii necontrolate.

This post has been edited by aphophis: 28 Dec 2012, 20:28

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This post has been edited by VladSoare: 29 Dec 2012, 11:58

A cumparat cumva masini Renault de la clienti si i-a pus sa semneze ca nu vor declara nimic de defectiuni?

la reno e mai nasol, clientii nu vor sa le fie rascumparate masinile
caz recent: un M3 prin Spania

mai de porc este cand se intervine la masinile clientilor (desigur, fara ca acestia sa cunoasca acest lucru) in momentul in care ajung cu ele prin service la revizie, pentru niste amarate de OTS-uri care presupun interventiile mecanice la motor de exemplu

vor instala un dispozitiv care va taia acceleratia in cazul in care sunt apasate simultan acceleratia si frana.

nasol, nu vor mai putea sa mai plece cu scârt de la semafor

This post has been edited by P-A-C-O: 28 Dec 2012, 21:51

Pentru că la americani toate toantele conduc. Orice oligofren are acolo permis și mașină. E suficient un pic de ceață sau doi fulgi de zăpadă, ca să vezi douăzeci de boi înfipți unul într-altul. Deci nu-i de mirare că dacă se blochează accelerația se blochează și șoferii.
Dă-mi o mașină oarecare, la care îi programezi accelerația să se blocheze cînd vrei tu, fără ca eu să știu cînd. Pariez cu tine pe ce vrei că n-o să fac accident din cauza asta. De altfel, chiar mi s-a întîmplat de mai multe ori să-mi rămînă pedala blocată la podea, dar n-am pățit nimic.

al naibii. toti soferii tonti s-au adunat la toyota.. Si e asa de mare ghinionul la toyota, ca nu l-au putut combate decat cu 1,4 miliarde de dolari + instalarea dispozivului minune.. Ce nevoie au de dispozitiv, daca oricum toyota nu are probleme cu asa ceva?

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This post has been edited by VladSoare: 29 Dec 2012, 11:58