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post 28 Jan 2009, 17:33
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eu acest model il astept: D90 coupé LOGAN (hypoth&egrave;se, pas de confirmation)

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nu ma mira acest recall, calitatea toyota scade se pare din ce in ce mai mult, au ajuns ca gm-ul, luna si recall-ul cu multe unitati implicate..


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@ aphophis
Interesant tabelul prin ce spune in dreptul rubricilor cu zero la coada: ce se pregateste, pe unde va fi produs, noi centre de productie.
De exemplu, selectie: Pakistan (Logan), Indonezia (MCV), Iran (Pick-UP; probabil ca geamurile din spate produse acolo ar fi trebuit sa fie un semn prevestitor), Rusia (Sandero), Maroc (tot cu Sandero, in asteptarea altor modele pentru noua uzina), Turcia cu B32 (se pare ca Mégane III pe platforma de M II; plus Clio III facelift). Merci


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post 28 Jan 2009, 18:47
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cu placere si eu ma gandeam ca acolo e trecut 0 e posibil sa fie rubrica modelelor ce vor fi produse..

29 Jan 2009, 14:54:
pierderi de 5.9 miliarde de dolari la ford in q4 si reducere a veniturilor de la 45.5 miliarde dolari in 2007 q4, la 29.2 miliarde in 2008 q4..


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DEARBORN, Mich. – Ford Motor Co. said Thursday it lost $5.9 billion in the fourth quarter as auto sales slumped, but it has no plans to seek federal aid unless economic conditions worsen.

The second-largest U.S. automaker said it burned through $5.5 billion in the quarter, less than the $7.7 billion it used in the third quarter.

The company said it lost $2.46 per share, compared with a loss of $2.8 billion, or $1.13 per share, for the year-ago period.

Revenue fell to $29.2 billion from $45.5 billion in the fourth quarter of 2007.

Ford's figures missed Wall Street's expectations. Excluding special items, the company reported a $1.37 per share loss for the quarter. Analysts polled by Thomson Reuters, on average, expected a fourth-quarter loss of $1.30 per share on revenue of $26.3 billion.

Dearborn-based Ford also announced that its credit arm would cut 20 percent of its work force, or 1,200 jobs, and it has reached agreement with the United Auto Workers union to end the "jobs bank" in which laid-off workers get most of their pay, although the effective date is still being negotiated.

Company spokesman Mark Truby said Ford's position on seeking federal loans is unchanged. The company has asked for a $9 billion line of credit from the government but has said it has enough cash to make it through 2009 and doesn't intend to use government loans unless conditions worsen.

"We don't plan to or foresee using it," Truby said Thursday.

The Treasury Department made loans to Ford's U.S-based competitors, allocating $13.4 billion to General Motors Corp. and $4 billion for Chrysler LLC.

Ford said it had $13.4 billion cash on hand as of Dec. 31 and it plans to exercise a $10.1 billion secured credit line Tuesday.

Chief Financial Officer Lewis Booth said the company is tapping the credit line only to make sure it's available and not to fund operations.

"We are confident that our burn rate will be substantially slower in 2009," he told reporters Thursday morning.

For the full year, Ford reported a net loss of $14.6 billion, compared with a loss of $2.7 billion in 2007.

Vehicle sales in the U.S. are at their lowest levels in 26 years as consumers face tight credit markets and economic uncertainty, with Ford's U.S. sales dropping 20.5 percent in 2008 and its market share falling slightly to 15 percent from 15.4 percent in 2007.

That uncertainty has spread to Europe as well, where sales are beginning to fall. Markets such as South America, that were once a bright spot for Ford, are also slowing.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090129/ap_on_bi_ge/earns_ford

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post 29 Jan 2009, 18:24
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QUOTE(aphophis @ 28 Jan 2009, 18:35)
nu ma mira acest recall, calitatea toyota scade se pare din ce in ce mai mult, au ajuns ca gm-ul, luna si recall-ul cu multe unitati implicate..


Da' macar vopseaua e la locul ei.. smile.gif
Ideea e ca ei au plecat de la o calitate ridicata si au de unde sa mai scada. Si avand in vedere ca produc in jur de 4 milioane de masini pe an.. eu zic ca daca recheama 1 milion dupa 4 ani de productie nu e chiar dezastruos de mult.


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post 29 Jan 2009, 18:27
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pai si ce ca au de unde sa scada? Idea nu e sa intretii calitatea cu care te lauzi? Mai ales ca peste tot avem fiabilitate toyota in sus, fiabilitate toyota in jos, chiar si toyota se foloseste foarte agresiv de chestia asta in reclame..


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post 30 Jan 2009, 19:04
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pavilionul central din cadrul uzinei DACIA Mioveni, acolo unde s-a proiectat celebra DACIA R525 (Nova), isi va gasii maine sfarsitul, aceasta urmand a fi demolata utilizand mai multe expozii controlate.

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post 30 Jan 2009, 19:33
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QUOTE(aphophis @ 29 Jan 2009, 19:27)
pai si ce ca au de unde sa scada? Idea nu e sa intretii calitatea cu care te lauzi? Mai ales ca peste tot avem fiabilitate toyota in sus, fiabilitate toyota in jos, chiar si toyota se foloseste foarte agresiv de chestia asta in reclame..


Pai cam in acelasi fel in care Dacia se foloseste de ideea din "proiectul de 5000E", adica o masina ieftina si buna.. smile.gif Si cu totii stim ca nu exista ieftin si bun.


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post 30 Jan 2009, 19:59
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treaba cu dacia fiind care? Ca e vb de toyota acolo , care e pe topogan in jos. Unii prin america zic ca e un gm in devenire din acest punct de vedere

In alta ordine de idei: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/30/gassed-...profit-in-2008/

exxon mobil a avut in 2008 un profit de 45.2 miliarde dolari. Vad ca pe astia criza nu i-a lovit

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QUOTE(loganfan2008 @ 30 Jan 2009, 19:04)
pavilionul central din cadrul uzinei DACIA Mioveni, acolo unde s-a proiectat celebra DACIA R525 (Nova), isi va gasii maine sfarsitul, aceasta urmand a fi demolata utilizand mai multe expozii controlate.
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stirea: http://www.ziarulargesul.ro/editorial/mai-...-un-simbol.html

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Este dãrâmat pavilionul Daciei. Din raþiuni, nu mã îndoiesc, de ordin economic. Aflu, dacã este adevãrat, cã este puþin înclinat, ca ºi turnul din Pisa. Italienii ãºtia de ce nu l-or fi dând jos, ca sã nu le cadã în cap? Mai aflu cã are fisuri, cã nu mai este util, sunt mari costurile de întreþinere, cã majoritatea salariaþilor au fost deja evacuaþi, cã în locul lui va fi amenajat un  parc ori o parcare. Francezii, managerii francezi, patronii francezi nu iau decizii cu inima, ci cu mintea. Pe ei nu-i loveºte în inimã demolarea unei clãdiri. ªi nici n-are de ce. Pentru noi, cei sub ochii cãrora a fost ridicat acest pavilion, a fost construitã întreaga uzinã, cu halele sale pentru montaj general, fabricaþie motor, caroserie, turnãtorie, pentru cei care au lucrat aici sau poate chiar mai lucreazã evenimentul are conotaþii de mare încãrcãturã emoþionalã.
Sunat la telefon, dl. Constantin Stroe atât mi-a putut spune: „Mã loveºte în inimã“, dupã care s-a scuzat ºi a închis telefonul.


se aude ca urmeaza desfiintarea departamentului "VOCEA CLIENTULUI"

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QUOTE(aphophis @ 30 Jan 2009, 19:59)
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exxon mobil a avut in 2008 un profit de 45.2 miliarde dolari. Vad ca pe astia criza nu i-a lovit
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Si daca i-a lovit criza, nu aveau cum sa o simta avand profiturile din vara.


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Aflu, dacã este adevãrat, cã este puþin înclinat, ca ºi turnul din Pisa. Italienii ãºtia de ce nu l-or fi dând jos, ca sã nu le cadã în cap?

Asta ii super tare. Ar trebui ca Dacia sa se apuce de turism. Vizitati marele simbol, pavilionul Daciei radmasa.gif .


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QUOTE(aphophis @ 30 Jan 2009, 20:59)
treaba cu dacia fiind care? Ca e vb de toyota acolo , care e pe topogan in jos. Unii prin america zic ca e un gm in devenire din acest punct de vedere


Era un fel de comparatie. In sensul ca si Dacia ii da cu proiectul de 5000E in sus si in jos..smile.gif


Si circula un banc in ultima vreme despre criza in auto (nu mi-l mai amintesc intocmai):

Dacia anunta 1000 de concedieri, Ford anunta 2000 de someri, GM anunta 3000 de someri. Toyota, ca sa tina pasul cu moda, scoate din priza 4000 de roboti. icon_mrgreen.gif

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post 1 Feb 2009, 17:03
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cand a dat dacia cu proiectul de 5000 de euro in sus si in jos dupa lansarea loganului? huh.gif da nah, trebuia sa zici si tu de dacia, cand de fapt era vorba de toyota si felul cum se bat in piept cu o fiabilitate care incepe sa scartaie..


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Vrei sa zici ca tu n-ai primit mailul de la Dacia cu "cele mai mici preturi" (din pacate nu mai e in Trash, ca-l puneam aici)? Zic stai sa vezi ca Dacia a redus preturile, si de fapt erau aceleasi preturi minime (6400 Logan si 6890 Sandero).

Poti sa te uiti si la spotul lor de pe site sa vezi ce zic de preturi. Nu vreau sa intram in polemica inutil.
Si pana nu apare o statistica oficiala care sa infirme/confirme fiabilitatea Toyota, eu zic sa stam linistiti.


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post 1 Feb 2009, 19:25
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aia erau speculatiile presei daca tin bine minte. Cat despre statistica oficiala, pai recallurile alea ce sunt? radmasa.gif Nu sunt oficiale, mai ales ca nhtsa ii obliga sa faca recallurile alea..


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post 2 Feb 2009, 20:56
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record negativ pentru dacia vezi aici


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probabil scaderile au venit din cauza ca uzina in luna ianuarie nu a produs mai nimic.. Cea mai mare scadere pe piata franceza a avut-o insa opel: http://www.ccfa.fr/IMG/pdf/Communique-02022009.pdf , -28,7%. Totusi in spania dacia a avut cresteri: http://es.autoblog.com/2009/02/02/ventas-enero-2009-espana/ , +45,7% , ajungand la 676 bucati vandute in ianuarie 2009


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Pai Dacia nu a produs nimic pentru ca avea deja prea mult pe stoc, nu ca ar fi avut nevoie sa tina oamenii degeaba acasa.


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din cauza pietei romanesti. is convins ca la export ar fi putut vinde ce produceau..


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post-336-1110552475.gif si ce anume i-a oprit sa produca si sa vanda?

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pai ei puteau sustine cererea din occident +cresterea (cam 20-30%). Insa cum cresterea aia din vest era mai mica decat scaderea din romania..


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Nissan va prezenta la Geneva un nou concept crossover numit Qazan. Oare ascunde viitorul SUV al marcii Dacia? 04.gif
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conceptul se va numi Qazana


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http://www.interautonews.it/ultimora.htm

vanzarile pe ianuarie 2009 in italia. Dacia e printre putinele marci care a avut o crestere,avand printre cele mai mari cresteri de pe piata italiana. Astfel au avut cresteri:

- jaguar 89,66% , ajungand la 220 bucati vandute
- subaru 17,25%, ajungand la 435 bucati vandute
- dacia 39,89%, ajungand la 996 bucati vandute
- audi 10,23%, ajungand la 6499 bucati vandute

Scaderi foarte mari au fost la renault, toyota, mitsubishi, hyundai, opel, citroen, peugeot..



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vanzarile pe 2008 in germania. Dacia e in top 50 dpdv al modelelor , pe locul 36 la general cu logan , vanzand acolo in 2008 18.533 exemplare. probabil in 2009 va fi cu amandoua modelele in top.. http://www.autozeitung.de/node/270661/1

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scaderi si la hyundai & kia, atat la vanzarile interne cat si la exporturi. Astfel hyundai a avut o cadere de 32% pe piata coreeana si o cadere de 25% la export. La kia nu se stie exact cat a scazut la intern, insa exportuile le-au cazut cu 46%.

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Au mois de janvier, les ventes combinées des cinq constructeurs coréens (Hyundai, Kia, GM Daewoo, Renault Samsung et Ssangyong) ont chuté de 35 %, à 312 725 unités ; elles ont reculé de 24 % en Corée et de 37 % à l’exportation.

Hyundai a vendu 179 044 véhicules le mois dernier (- 27 %) ; ses ventes en Corée ont baissé de 32 % et ses ventes à l’étranger de 25 %. Kia a pour sa part écoulé 74 915 véhicules (- 38 %) ; ses ventes ont été quasiment stables en Corée, à 22 056 unités, mais ses exportations ont chuté de 46 %, à 52 859 unités.

Les ventes de GM Daewoo ont diminué de moitié, à 45 842 unités, tandis que celles de Renault Samsung n’ont baissé que de 9,2 %, à 11 280 unités.

Ssangyong, qui a demandé le mois dernier à se placer sous la protection de la loi sur les faillites, a quant à lui enregistré un recul de 82 % de ses ventes en janvier. Il a écoulé 1 644 véhicules, dont 1 149 sur le marché coréen (- 77 %) et 495 à l’exportation (- 88 %).

« La baisse de la demande sur les marchés développés s’étend aux marchés en développement, ne laissant aucune région sur le chemin de la croissance. La contraction du marché s’amplifie en raison de l’assèchement du crédit », a indiqué le ministère coréen de l’Economie dans un communiqué. (KOREA HERALD 3/2/09, BLOOMBERG 2/11/09)


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vanzari dacia in 2008 sursa


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Bentley has revealed a teaser images of a supercar that will be presented at the 2009 Geneva Motor Show. It will be based on the Continental GT Speed and will be the fastest and most powerful production Bentley ever.

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Ieri a plecat Chris Bangle de la BMW. Inlocuitorul lui este Adrian von Hooydonk.


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lada priora a fost lansata pe piata germana:


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Lada Alemania ha comenzado la comercialización del Priora, un modelo de aspecto moderno e interesante desde el punto de vista económico. Sustituto del anterior Strawa, mejora tanto en calidad como en equipamiento a su antecesor.

El único motor disponible para el Priora es el 1.6i 16v de 98 CV, suficientes para poder lanzarlo hasta los 183 km/h de velocidad máxima. El consumo medio es de 6,3 L/100, con un nivel de emisiones de 156 g/km de CO2. El cambio es manual de cinco velocidades. En opción puede optarse por la doble alimentación que permite el empleo de gas natural y gasolina indistintamente.

Se comercializa en tres versiones:

    * 2170 Sedán 9.800 €
    * Priora Sedán 9.750 €
    * Priora Hatch 9.990 €

El equipamiento de serie en los Priora incluye el aire acondicionado, dirección asistida, elevalunas eléctricos, cierre centralizado, faros antiniebla, ABS + EBD, airbags frontales, ordenador de viaje, llantas de aleación, faros antiniebla, radio CD MP3, etc.



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Surprizele programului anti-criza din Germania: Dacia, pe locul doi in programul Rabla nemtesc

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