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post 12 Oct 2011, 17:10
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post 15 Oct 2011, 16:20
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Eu zic ca un Golf V 1.6FSI ar fi perfect.Sau un Megane 2.2 hachback 1.6 16v in varianta Privilege chiar arata foarte bine


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post 15 Oct 2011, 19:38
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Moama, daca as gasi asa un golf la banii mei il iau pe loc biggrin.gif


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post 15 Oct 2011, 22:20
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in mod clar un golf. intra pe autovit ca sunt destule. sau fa o excursie in gemania wink.gif


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post 24 Oct 2011, 16:08
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Am vandut vechea masina, acuma ma uit dupa BMW e46 si golf 5, a4 a cazut din cauza costurilor reparatiilor la un loc cu o fiabilitate indoielnica.

Iau ce gasesc mai bun.


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post 24 Oct 2011, 16:12
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post 24 Oct 2011, 16:15
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tongue.gif nu mi se potriveste, mai degraba un passat b5.5

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post 24 Oct 2011, 16:54
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Stai linistit, am glumit. Pe mine personal nu ma intereseaza daca o masina e germana, franceza sau japoneza. Sa merarga, imi plac japonezele ce-i drept, dar......


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post 24 Oct 2011, 18:04
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QUOTE(4x4 @ 24 Oct 2011, 17:08)
a4 a cazut din cauza costurilor reparatiilor la un loc cu o fiabilitate indoielnica.
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Asa se intampla, cand n-ai bani de una buna, e modelul naspa.


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post 24 Oct 2011, 19:40
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Ia studiaza tu niste statistici si ai sa vezi ca costul medie pe reparatie la a4 e dublu fata decat cel la e46 + ca a4 b6 e cunoscut printre proprietari ca fiind o masina termperamentala, am citit cateva owner's reviews si mia fost de ajuns. Ar mai fi o chestie, nu prea am gasit modele quattro iar un a4 cu tractiune fata nu vreau.


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post 24 Oct 2011, 21:09
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cum e aia masina temperamentala?
intr-adevar a4 are o gramada de brate si are suspensia mai ciudata pe fata, dar costuri duble fata de e46... hai sa fim seriosi...

daca vrei fiabil si nu esti curios de performante, ia-ti a4 b6 de 1.6 101CP.

PS: nu vrei a4 cu tractiune fata? atunci cauta golf5 ca la ala trage si rezerva din portbagaj (doara de-aia e 5) !

cauta-ti o octavie sau o astra/vectra. masini cinstite in banii astia...

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post 24 Oct 2011, 21:22
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QUOTE(4x4 @ 24 Oct 2011, 17:08)
Am vandut vechea masina, acuma ma uit dupa BMW e46 si golf 5, a4 a cazut din cauza costurilor reparatiilor la un loc cu o fiabilitate indoielnica.

Iau ce gasesc mai bun.
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post 25 Oct 2011, 10:49
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QUOTE(ipiq @ 24 Oct 2011, 21:09)
cum e aia masina temperamentala?
intr-adevar a4 are o gramada de brate si are suspensia mai ciudata pe fata, dar costuri duble fata de e46... hai sa fim seriosi...

daca vrei fiabil si nu esti curios de performante, ia-ti a4 b6 de 1.6 101CP.

PS: nu vrei a4 cu tractiune fata? atunci cauta golf5 ca la ala trage si rezerva din portbagaj (doara de-aia e 5) !

cauta-ti o octavie sau o astra/vectra. masini cinstite in banii astia...
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http://www.reliabilityindex.com/buying-guides/view/741

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/audi/a4-b6-2001/?

http://www.edmunds.com/audi/a4/2002/consum...b=sedan&ps=used

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Nu gasesc acuma exact situl ca sa iti arat, ideea era ca pe pagini intregi, toti proprietarii de b6 se plangeau cat de scumpa e intretinerea si cum masina lor era mereu stricata.

Tu pe banii tai nu ai de cat sa risti sa iei ce vrei, eu nu imi pot permite sa risc, iar a4 cu tractiune fata sub vireza destul de mult si audi fara quattro dupa parerea mea nu are nici un farmec.

Seria 3 e masina care o vreau, golf 5 e masina care imi trebuie, desi nu imi place la fel de mult, reuseste sa satisfaca toate criteriile mele, plus ca e o platforma gandita special pentru tractiune fata si se comporta foarte bine in curbe.

Nu vreau opel, nu am nevoie de skoda desi stiu ca ar fi alegerea cea mai sigura, masinile alea nu au moarte.


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post 25 Oct 2011, 10:56
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post 25 Oct 2011, 13:53
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QUOTE(4x4 @ 25 Oct 2011, 11:49)
a4 cu tractiune fata sub vireza destul de mult si audi fara quattro dupa parerea mea nu are nici un farmec.
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Nu stiu ce te face sa crezi ca un A4 cu Quattro nu subvireaza daca il duci la limita. La fel cum nu stiu pe unde ai tu de gand sa duci la limita un A4 in asa fel incat sa subvireze suficient de mult ca sa risti un accident grav.


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post 25 Oct 2011, 14:02
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post 25 Oct 2011, 14:49
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QUOTE(bmwh548 @ 25 Oct 2011, 13:53)
Nu stiu ce te face sa crezi ca un A4 cu Quattro nu subvireaza daca il duci la limita. La fel cum nu stiu pe unde ai tu de gand sa duci la limita un A4 in asa fel incat sa subvireze suficient de mult ca sa risti un accident grav.
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Subvireaza ca e motorul greu in fata, dar macar e AWD, eu in afara conduc foarte tare, cand ies cu outlanderul cuplez si spatele si se simte o mare diferenta in curbe. La accidente nu cred ca e cazul sa ne gandim.

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not funny, si oricum in cazul asta ar supravira wink.gif

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post 25 Oct 2011, 15:10
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-nu am incercat niciodata dar s-ar putea a4 sa stea mai bine pe curbe ca golful 5, si in mod sigur sta mai bine decat outlanderu' cat o fi el de AWD...
-linkurile ce mi le-ai pus n-am avut nervi sa le deschid dar poza aia e fix-pix. la ce motoare se refera? daca compara bmw 330xd cu a4 2.0tdi si cu golf5 1.6 benzinar, poti sa te c@ci pe ele teste...
-te-ai hotarat macar daca vrei benzina sau diesel? cati km faci pe an?
-nu te mai gandi la subvirari si alte nebunii ca mergi pe drumuri in Romania nu alergi in WRC
-oricat de tare ti-ai dori masina "premium" in 7000 de euro cea mai cinstita alegere e opel/skoda


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post 25 Oct 2011, 15:30
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La BMW: 318i, 1998cm3, 143CP, 201Nm
La golf 5 oricare 1.4 si 1.6 TSI si FSI sau 2.0 SDI.


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-golf 1.4 TSI nu gasesti in banii astia iar 2.0 SDI e o gluma de motor (0 - 100 km/h in 17 secunde) => nu are ce cauta impreuna cu celelalte scrise de tine mai sus
318 & G5 1,6FSI sunt ok...

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post 25 Oct 2011, 15:51
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Am facut o confuzie, eu ma gandeam la 2.0 TDI, oricum nu prea pot sa am multe pretentii, golf e mai degraba o masina practica de oras, si varianta mea de backup in cazul in care nu gasesc e46 bun.


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post 25 Oct 2011, 17:16
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QUOTE(4x4 @ 25 Oct 2011, 16:30)
La BMW: 318i, 1998cm3, 143CP, 201Nm
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Nu vrei sa mai bagi o fisa?

Cat despre partea cu condusul tare... Nu e vina masinii ca tu o folosesti pentru ceva ce nu a fost proiectata sa faca.


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318i are 1900cmc si 118cp pana in 2001 si 2000 cmc si 143cp din 2001.. mai baga tu fise tongue.gif


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post 25 Oct 2011, 18:11
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Care e diferenta intre TSI si FSI ?


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FSI e aspirat, TSI e supraalimentat, afaik.

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post 25 Oct 2011, 18:25
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318i are 1900cmc si 118cp pana in 2001 si 2000 cmc si 143cp din 2001.. mai baga tu fise tongue.gif
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Fara suparare,dar tu din iulie si pana acum nu ti-ai mai luat masina?

Sau,mai bine zis,ai de gand sa-ti iei masina?


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post 25 Oct 2011, 19:19
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318i are 1900cmc si 118cp pana in 2001 si 2000 cmc si 143cp din 2001.. mai baga tu fise tongue.gif
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318 are 2000 cmc si 129 de cai pana in 2007/2008. Abia pe urma au schimbat motorul cu ala de 143.


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