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post 31 Aug 2013, 18:44
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@remusro, ce cutie de viteze a pus ptr motorul acela de alpine? ai idee? smile.gif


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post 31 Aug 2013, 19:04
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Am sa intreb.

31 Aug 2013, 21:05:
Am intrebat. Cutia de viteze e de la un R18, dar zice ca a trebuit sa-i faca niste modificari, e foarte greu de amplasat pe R12, insa merita efortul. Motorul e de 1.4 Alpine Turbo, 175 cai. ph34r.gif

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aha misto. Sunt curios ce rapoarte o fi avand cutia de R18 si care e top speed-ul la masina smile.gif Imi plac caii aia multi 175, e sigur ca are atat? cool.gif

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post 31 Aug 2013, 21:55
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Absolut sigur are caii aia, il stiu pe tip, e englez "din ala", care nu umfla cifrele. In schimb, e dus rau cu capul, diliman sadea. E mecanic, lucreaza numai pe Reno-uri vechi, specialitatea lui e R4, are vreo 8, dar are si 3 R12-uri (si inca multe alte Reno-uri).

In textul primit de la el mi-a mai scris niste parametri la acest Alpine, dar eu sunt un tip atehnic, nu le am cu astea. Habar nu am nici sa traduc ce zice, sa fiu cinstit, poate voi intelegeti: "Engine 1.4 Alpine modified to 175 bhp (asta e clar, adica 175 cai) and 174.5 pounds per foot torque rolling road."

Ce naiba inseamna, nu stiu.

As putea sa il sun saptamana viitoare daca e asa mare interes.


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post 1 Sep 2013, 05:42
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ar fi 236 Nm la roata. E destul de mult. Sunt curios ce ambreiaj o fi avand ca sa reziste la atat.


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1 cal putere=735w, 1bhp(british horse power)=746w.Deci are mai mult de 175 cp.
Daca turbo 2 de la renault 5 avea 160 cp, nu-i exclus ca acel motor sa aiba aceasta putere.Probabil are ambreiaj din ceramica.


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QUOTE(dacia_gpg @ 1 Sep 2013, 13:40)
1 cal putere=735w, 1bhp(british horse power)=746w.
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BHP e "Brake Horse power".
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It is an engine's horsepower measured without a loss in power caused by having all the accesories on in the car.


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175 de cai, presupun cam o tona greutate... Nu discuta cu nimeni pe autostrada? Nu zau? A facut intreceri doar cu Ford T-uri?


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Si tu acu'... dry.gif ..o fi fost omu' singur in masina. tongue.gif


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Intre timp am mai facut una-alta in plan personal smile.gif . Dar asta o trecut si ne-am apucat serios de sistemul de injectie (sper ca pana la finele anului sa avem o Dacie EFI). Avem deja o cutie de-aia "mega-scuipat" si acuma devine stringenta problema alegerii injectoarelor. Am vazut ca pe la altii http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=38389 se poarta injectoare de 365 cc dar mie alea mi se par prea mari. Or fi ceea ce trebe? Ce clapeta de acceleratie sa aleg?

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La injectoare mai bine le iei prea mari decat prea mici, asa ai loc sa cresti boostul in viitor fara sa trebuiasca sa mai cumperi alt set.


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ia un corp clapeta de 60-65mm, injectoare mai mari si da-i bataie la proiect


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Imi cer scuze ca postez in 2 locuri(o sa raman aici cu msq, celalalt topic fiind pentru pompa de apa)

Uite cum ziceam eu cu 2 senzori, unul la volanta si unul la delcou
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QUOTE(BH 59 FIF @ 5 Sep 2013, 20:15)
Intre timp am mai facut una-alta in plan personal smile.gif
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Casa de piatra! Sper sa mai ai timp de surubarit la Dacie. Vezi ca la inceput o sa te lase sa faci ce vrei, dar incet incet o sa te trezesti ca trec 2 luni si n-ai mai strans nici macar un surub mellow.gif


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Sa inteleg ca stii "chestiile" astea din propria experienta?


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biggrin.gif Ma descurc eu cumva.

@iuliano_smile: Multumesc pentru informatii. Ma pun serios pe studiat.


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Fif vezi ca ala e msq 1.
ATENTIE!!! Ca sa folosesti wasted spark iti mai trebuie 2 tranzistoare de putere(gen igbt irg4bc40fpbf sau tranzistor specializat vb921).

In rest poti sal folosesti chiar daca e msq 1.
Apropo foloseste si fan control, ca poti sati setezi temperatura de pornire si oprire din msq.
Si mai ai grija ca sa mai umblat in el pentru a utiliza diferite functii(ma refer la tranzistorul ala lasat in aer)


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post 18 Sep 2013, 14:37
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Am inteles sa traiti smile.gif . Iti dau un telefon dupa ce mai studiez putin problema sa-mi spui daca sunt pe calea buna sau nu smile.gif .

L.E: Pozele cu clapeta de acceleratie. Ma apuc de facut rampa pentru injectoare.

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Vezi ca iti trebuie un potentiometru de clapeta. Poti sa folosesti orice potentiometru de la orice masina atata timp cant poti sal adaptezi.


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Da da, stiu, zilele astea ar trebui sa vina TPS-ul.

Probabil ultima iesire a masinii pe anul asta. Ne apucam serios de treaba.

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Continuam. Galeria aia smechera cu porturi e si ea in lucru. De data asta chiar nu mai avem incotro si taiem capota smile.gif . Vreau neaparat sa pastrez galeria de admisie originala (fie ea de aspirat, fie ea de turbo) si pana in momentul de fata se pare ca cea de Turbo este varianta castigatoare. Din pacate e inalta rau asa ca masina va primi o cocoasa pe capota.

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dar nu poti face admisia prin cotul ala care e acum sudat de ea? adica tai cotul care oricum e orientat in alta directie decat ar trebui si sudezi altul orientat cum trebuie, sau o teava dreapta care are in cap corpul clapeta. Astupi cu un capac partea de sus unde ar trebui sa vina carburatorul si cred ca ai rezolvat.



In felul asta nu trebuie taiata capota si ai si un traseu al aerului mult mai bun pt ca scapi de doua unghiuri drepte. Practic daca aerul vine din directia cotului, el va circula drept pana in motor.


Daca totusi vrei sa faci admisia pe sus, cred ca o varianta buna ar fi tubulatura originala de alpine turbo la care ii montezi in cap corpul clapeta.


L.E.

Am vazut acum cum arata corpul clapeta. Da, cred ca e cam greu ce am zis eu mai sus. Dar totusi ca sa mai castigi cativa cm, de ce nu incerci cu o flansa cu suruburi ingropate? Ca in felul asta ti-ar trebui doar o placa de fier mai groasa si atat, fara suduri, fara alte chestii.

Eu aveam un corp clapeta in genul asta, cum e in poza atasata.

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QUOTE(BH 59 FIF @ 4 Oct 2013, 12:42)
Din pacate e inalta rau asa ca masina va primi o cocoasa pe capota.
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Pui cocoasa de la diesel, scrii TDI pe spate, problem solved tongue.gif


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Ne-am marit familia smile.gif . Serie de caroserie 00816. Asta o sa fie chiar proiect complex, dar de tinichigerie smile.gif.

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Pana in primavara nu facem lucrari de amploare vizibile si nu stiu daca s-ar justifica in prezent topicul smile.gif . Deocamdata am nevoie de multe piese si incerc sa le strang.


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moaaa, e si cu usa scurta. Spor la refacere. Sper s-o lasi cat mai originala sau daca faci modificari sa fie cat mai reversibile.


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M-am hotarat cumva cu greu ca pe asta sa nu fac nici o modificare, indiferent de natura ei (bine, in masura in care va fi posibil).


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mda... faina jucarea... te urasc un pic tongue.gif , eu nu prea am timp sa ma ocup nici de una singura...

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QUOTE(BH 59 FIF @ 14 Oct 2013, 22:39)
Ne-am marit familia smile.gif . Serie de caroserie 00816. Asta o sa fie chiar proiect complex, dar de tinichigerie smile.gif.
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Pare tapana, nu cred sa fie foarte mult de lucru la tablarie (partea de tinichigerie, cel putin).
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