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E, exact la carenajul ala de Clio3 (Sport) visez si eu, din pacate nu sunt asa de bun la matrite, mai am de invatat mad.gif
La scaderea consumului ar fi doua directii principale, functie si de regimul de utilizare al masinii.
-Aerodinamica, joaca un rol important si se vede la viteze mari, in oras si la viteze mici imbunatatirile sunt cam zero.
-"Dieta", scaderea rezistentei la rulare a rotilor, degrevarea motorului de anumite accesorii consumatoare de putere sunt eficiente pe toata plaja de viteze.

Eu as fi curios de un test pe stand cu role la 100 km/h, cat consuma pe stand (deci fara influenta aerodinamicii) si cat consuma pe sosea, cred ca ne-ar pune pe ganduri.


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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 28 Jun 2010, 00:51)
La primele teste am obtinut asa ceva:

drum national ~75km/h viteza medie, 5.3% > 5.1%
autostrada ~95Km/h viteza medie, 5.4% > 5.2%
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Am facut din nou un test pe drum national, pentru ca de atunci am mai adaugat cateva plastice. Rezultatul este incurajator. Diferente fata de atunci: AC pornit, temperatura cu cateva grade mai mare si ulei mai gros (acum 5W50, atunci 5W30 cel cu consum redus eco shit ...).
Consumul a iesit ... 4.6%!!! blink.gif
Test de autostrada nu am mai avut chef sa fac, dar in mod sigur o sa il repet daca mai reusesc. Oricum, o sa plec intr-un drum mai lung si o sa vad cat de real este. Anul trecut am avut un 6.0% la traseu de peste 2000km, sa vedem acum, chiar daca este diferit.

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Am facut din nou un test pe drum national, ...AC pornit, ... 4.6%!!!  blink.gif
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Ai verificat directia vantului? rolleyes.gif
Eu am scos 4.5 pe 135 km cu masina nemodificata aero, dar fara AC. Insa am avut vand din spate 2/3 din drum, si 1/3 lateral.
Apropo de consumuri, am schimbat recent bujiile originale care aveau circa 50.000km. Se prezentau bine, motorul mergea normal, dar bineinteles ca distantele nu mai erau bune. Am pus tot EYQ 2E. De la volan nu simt vreo schimbare, insa mi-a scazut consumul cu peste 0.5 l/100. Adica am ajuns inapoi la consumurile din primii 30.000 km, 7.2 l/100 predominant urban, in Iasi.


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Mai degraba ai este interesanta intaritura ... si reno ala mic (Wind) are breatele alea. Pe mine ma scote din sarite caroseria prea felxibila de la Logan. Se transmite orice gropita, nu exista deloc rigiditate. Un proiect viitor de imbunatatire ....
QUOTE(LuluMOB @ 24 Jul 2011, 10:28)
Ai verificat directia vantului?  rolleyes.gif Eu am scos 4.5 pe 135 km cu masina nemodificata aero
Bre, cel mai mic consum pe drumul ala a fost de 4.8% in stil eco! Fara AC! Nu ma intereseaza valoarea in sine, ci ca este in scadere si se poate face ceva pentru Logan sa scada consumul la drum lung. Ceva ce puteau sa faca si aia din fabrica la costuri infime cu efect la client.
QUOTE(IRONICK @ 23 Jul 2011, 21:30)
6.0% la traseu de peste 2000km
Acum 5.8%. Pana sa ajung la traseu montan (inclusiv traseu pe drumuri forestiere) aveam 5.4%.

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Eu am facut o medie de 6,4 pe aprox 800 de km de drumuri de munte. De data asta n-am mers eco deloc, am filtrul de aer de anul trecut si parca si injectoarelor li s-a facut de un schimb. Le scoatem pe cele noi de la naftalina.... biggrin.gif
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Adevarul este ca acum am finalizat si adaugat cele mai multe.
- deflectoare pentru rotile fata cu gaura pentru racire frana si care merg inca ~6cm peste scut
- carenaje in lateralele rezervorului, dar care reduc turbulentele si in zona prinderilor de sasiu
- deflectoare roti spate mai mari decat cele de fabrica, fara sa afecteze racirea
- o buza prinsa de puntea spate, care urmareste rezervorul si intr-un anumit unghi, astfel incat la rulaj cu x persoane si bagaje sa aibe unghiul corect si sa "apuce" aerul

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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 2 Aug 2011, 11:02)
Adevarul ca acum am finalizat si adaugat cele mai multe.
- deflectoare pentru rotile fata cu gaura pentru racire frana si care merg inca ~6cm peste scut
- carenaje in lateralele rezervorului, dar care reduc turbulentele si in zona prinderilor de sasiu
- deflectoare roti spate mai mari decat cele de fabrica, fara sa afecteze racirea
- o buza prinsa de puntea spate, care urmareste rezervorul si intr-un anumit unghi, astfel incat la rulaj cu x persoane si bagaje sa aibe unghiul corect si sa "apuce" aerul
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Suna interesant, pe cand niste poze cu toate modificarile tale?


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Tot aerodinamica este si asta ...


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Buna ziua!
Am vazut ca toate Loganurile noi au montate din fabrica deflectoare la scut si rotile spate. Al meu e din sept 2005 si vreau, dupa tot ce am citit mai sus, sa-i montez si eu.
Am fodst la un dealer si mi-a spus ca cel de fata costa cam 350 ron dar nu il au. Am gasit la Best Auto doar de Sndero dar cred ca nu seaman cu bara mea veche.
A vazut cineva prin Buc asa ceva pentru Logan?

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QUOTE(B!ll @ 12 Aug 2011, 14:07)
Am fost la un dealer si mi-a spus ca cel de fata costa cam 350 ron
Asta se pare ca este inca o bataie de joc marca Dacia! Cine este dealerul ala nesimtit care il vinde cu pret dublu?

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Da... trebuia sa precizez de la inceput: Meridian, pe bulev. Mihalache (Militari). Eu am intrebat la receptie service. Aveau o suta de masini noi in curte si toate aveau.
By the way deflectoarele de roti spate se prind cu piulite pe doua suruburi sudate pe capatul pragului.
Eu va trebui sa gauresc din pacate.

Si da, ai dreptate, cel de Sandero costa la Best auto 130 + transport

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QUOTE(adiya @ 15 Aug 2011, 21:48)
Maniu - Meridian vest
Puteam ghici fara probleme ca ei erau...
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QUOTE(B!ll @ 12 Aug 2011, 15:32)
Si da, ai dreptate, cel de Sandero costa la Best auto 130 + transport
Nu il pune pe cel de Sandero ca este mai mic si din cauza ca este pus mai in spate ca sa se incadreze "vizual" parca nu are acelasi efect. Gasesti codul pentru cel de berlina tot pe topicul asta.
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By the way deflectoarele de roti spate se prind cu piulite pe doua suruburi sudate pe capatul pragului. Eu va trebui sa gauresc din pacate.
Mai este o solutie! Eu am cumparat din Brico tabla zincata de 2mm, este fel de profil in forma de L (latura mica de 50mm si latura mare de 20, daca imi amintesc bine), cu mai multe gauri in el si pe latura mica o gaura de 10 parca. Cu el te prinzi de surubul de la punte cu inca o piulita si pe urma atasezi deflectorul de el. O sa il indoi mai mult si trebuie sa tai din el ca este prea lung. Imi pare rau ca nu am facut poza la al meu.

Cateva poze pentru coletie ....

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Scuze ca raspund asa tarziu dar am probleme cu net-ul.

Multumesc pentru informatia legata de Sandero, am sa recitesc topicul sa vad unde am scapat eu codul si sper pana la urma sa-l gasesc pe la vre-un magazin. Am sa anunt.
Fac zilnic 90 km in afara orasului si orice poate scadea consumul se va amortiza destul de rapid.


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Codul pentru deflector: 960153226R [Pret la Dacia 29,38 Euro fara TVA (~157RON cu TVA)]

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Multumesc foarte mult pentru sprijin si promptitudine! Respect!

Am sa astept ziua de salariu si sper sa gasesc si deflectoarele roata spate in acelasi timp.

Pasul urmator ar fi pinionul de a 5-a dar asta este pe alt topic.


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Some of the improvements, quantified:

11 counts: Outside rearview mirrors are specifically designed to deflect wind without “upsetting” the airflow
10 counts: Rounded front corners – from the bottom of the fascia up through the headlamps – help air flow smoothly along the Malibu’s body sides
Seven counts: Shutters in the lower grill opening on select models open and close automatically to maximize aerodynamic efficiency. This increases cooling airflow to the engine under certain conditions, such as under high engine loads at low speeds, and reduces aerodynamic drag when extra cooling is not needed.

Those are 28 counts of the total, all of which result in "up to 2.5 miles per gallon more on the highway."

Nu ca as avea incredere in caruta americana, dar macar aia fac ceva, nu ca astia de la Renault.


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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 17 Aug 2011, 15:30)
Seven counts: Shutters in the lower grill opening on select models open and close automatically to maximize aerodynamic efficiency. This increases cooling airflow to the engine under certain conditions, such as under high engine loads at low speeds, and reduces aerodynamic drag when extra cooling is not needed.

ar fi trebuit sa umble si la "gura" aia de sus... bine nu acum, ci in faza de proiectare happy.gif

PS: ce dracu' i-apuca pe americani de se gandesc la "fuel economy"?... probabil ca nu mai au loc sa puna rezervoare asa mari laugh.gif


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Pai de obicei la aia se umbla, ca sa arunce mai bine aerul peste capota. Dar cum sunt americanii, ei fac totul pe dos.

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