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psychoo
post 29 Aug 2015, 18:27
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Destule...
Lumea cumpara masini cum cumpara cartofi la piata: dupa aspect.
Bineinteles, mai exista si iluzia de lucru nou si bun...


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post 29 Aug 2015, 21:29
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 29 Aug 2015, 18:24)
La Kkoleos se inchidea haionul, si s-au vandut cateva in toata lumea. La Kkadjar nu se inchidw haionul, oare cate se vor vinde.
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radmasa.gif si la forester cum e? tot un jaf de masina? radmasa.gif

29 Aug 2015, 21:30:

QUOTE(psychoo @ 29 Aug 2015, 18:27)
Destule...
Lumea cumpara masini cum cumpara cartofi la piata: dupa aspect.
Bineinteles, mai exista si iluzia de lucru nou si bun...
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deocamdata kadjarul se vinde bine. Da sa nu afle ironick ca se arunca de la parter de ciuda radmasa.gif

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post 29 Aug 2015, 22:20
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Cite s-au vindut?


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post 29 Aug 2015, 22:31
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Pentru expertii in rahat si frustrare ai forumului exista o noua provocare: http://www.daciaclub.ro/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=4361654


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post 29 Aug 2015, 22:36
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in iunie 2015 , 5.279 bucati. Ca idee ca sa se vada vanzarile la altii . Honda CR-V - 4.174 unitati. RAV4 4777 unitati

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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 29 Aug 2015, 22:31)
Pentru expertii in rahat si frustrare ai forumului exista o noua provocare: http://www.daciaclub.ro/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=4361654
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radmasa.gif si nu ne spui nimic despre subaru daca e o marca de rahat sau nu pentru ca foresterul are probleme cu tensionarea caroseriei? radmasa.gif Sau e frustrarea prea mare si nu poti admite ca toti fac rahaturi, cost cuting happy.gif

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post 30 Aug 2015, 08:53
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Parcă se torsiona. Acum se tensionează?


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post 30 Aug 2015, 09:06
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Numai daca e noua, tre sa se aseze caroseria si se mai torsioneaza si ea.
Daca o iei sh ca noua ai scapat si de tensiune si de torsionare.


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post 30 Aug 2015, 09:17
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Ala a fost nissan-ul, asteptam si reno-ul sa vedem daca face la fel (in mod normal traversele nu sunt aceleasi, dar nu se stie niciodata).


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post 30 Aug 2015, 21:30
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Pana la traverse mai sunt niste puncte de sudura si reteta materialului.


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au aparut testele euroncap pentru kadjar. 5 stele euroncap. Comentarii? smile.gif


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E bine.


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post 3 Sep 2015, 10:01
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Te asteptai la mai putine stele?
Mai toate au acum 5 stele. Ar fi timpul sa se mearga mai departe cu rigorile de securitate la impact.


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post 3 Sep 2015, 10:11
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QUOTE(aphophis @ 3 Sep 2015, 09:53)
Comentarii? smile.gif
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e singura masina, testata, la care se indoaie pavilionul si asta se intampla la varianta "usoara".


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post 3 Sep 2015, 14:01
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QUOTE(ssilviu @ 27 Aug 2015, 21:06)
Nu ai mers vreodata cu avionul, nu? Ca daca vedeai cum flexeaza aripa aia mai ales in turbulente dadeai in judecata compania aviatica pentru ca ti-a pus viata in pericol  icon_mrgreen.gif

Normal ca flexeaza caroseria, orice caroserie flexeaza. Mai mult sau mai putin. Cu efecte mai mult sau mai putin vizibile. Dar sa afirmi ca sunt mari probleme de structura ... e putin cam exagerat. Probleme de structura erau cand la EuroNCAP lua 2 stele sau daca ramanea caroserie stramba. Nu e nevoie de 2-3 cm sa nu se mai inchida portbagajul. Sunt suficienti cativa mm. Se vede si in clip. Daca avea inca 2 mm se putea inchide.
O caroserie nu trebuie sa fie complet rigida. La modul extrem, daca ar fi complet rigida si nu s-ar deforma sau flexa in vreun fel la un accident, ai muri lejer la un impact de 60 la ora. Ea trebuie sa fie deformabila controlat astfel incat sa absoarba cat mai mult din impact in caz de accident. Pastrand in acelasi timp un spatiu in siguranta pentru ocupanti. Asta cu ... daca e caroserie rigida e mai sigura la accident imi aminteste de mosii cu ... da domle, are taba groasa, e masina adevarata  icon_mrgreen.gif

La modul extrem, in ce ai vrea sa te rastorni la 60 la ora. Intr-un tanc sau in asa ceva:
http://life.wnmu.edu/wp-content/uploads/si...08/NVS_3320.jpg
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Saptamana asta nu am mers decat 1 data deocamdata, dar anul asta am depasit 60 de zboruri, daca asta e relevant pentru tine.

Deformabilitatea de care vorbesti tu se refera la zonele de impact, nu la celula in care stau pasagerii, care trebuie sa fie cat mai dura si mai rigida ca sa protejeze pasagerii...


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post 3 Sep 2015, 14:10
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Intr-adevar, nu pare OK felul in care s-a indoit pavilionul.

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Ideea este sa supravietuiasca pasagerii la impact. Cu pavilion curbat sau nu...tot dauna totala iese.
Iar astea sunt teste la ~60km/ora , la viteze mult mai mari lucrurile stau mult mai rau. Eu stiu ca energia trebuie absorbita prin deformari. La crashteste e important cum sunt protejati pasagerii nu de cat de intreaga ramane masina.


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post 3 Sep 2015, 16:38
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O masina care se dezintegreaza la 64 km/h o sa fie mult mai afectata la 100km/h decat una care la 64km/h are doar botul turtit.
Ca din cauza fortelor, structura interna a pasagerilor incepe sa aiba sechele e partea a doua. Macar nu s-a strans fierul peste ei si au mai multe sanse de a scapa...POATE.
Masina care s-a facut acordeon nu iti mai da sansa asta.
Nu degeaba au ales 64km/h ca viteza de referinta.


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Eu vad ca s-a stricat rama geamului, nu plafonul.


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post 3 Sep 2015, 17:12
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haide bre, maine o sa zici ca aphophis, macar gaseste o scuza mai pertinenta.

am uitat reno rulz.

ps in 2003 rupea gura targului cu laguna si megane, acum face panarame de astea de Kadjar.


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Da' cam pe cine am scuzat? Da pe iutub, fa fulscrin, beleste ochiu' si o sa vezi ca se incovoiaza usa, nu plafonul.


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post 3 Sep 2015, 17:22
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Pe video se vede cum pavilionul tremura ca o piftie si se face valuri-valuri. Uitati-va.


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coane, se incovoaie plafonul, daca te uiti la imaginea din fata si de deasupra o sa vezi cutele.

a, da reno rulz.


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Pe video la min. 0.50.


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Am vazut.
Nu stiu ce valoare are faptul ca se onduleaza tavanul ala p-acolo, vad ca se onduleaza la mai multe masini, dar se onduleaza.


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Pai la Megane 3 2008 nu se ondula, nu se indoia, nu se rupea. Am revazut filmarea. smile.gif

Cu ocazia asta am vazut Megane 2014, adicatelea turcaletul, 3(trei) stele mari si late. Decit. naughty.gif pupi.gif party.gif

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post 3 Sep 2015, 19:30
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care are acum 4 stele. decat cat hyuundai i20, mazda cx-3, mazda 2. Acolo cum e?


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Mai uita-te o data wink.gif


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M-am uitat la Kadjar, Avensis, XC90. La toate 3 plafonul face 'valuri'.

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Pai la Megane 3 2008 nu se ondula, nu se indoia, nu se rupea. Am revazut filmarea. smile.gif
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M-am uitat si eu acum, avand tot Megane 3; asa e, sta fix plafonul.
Asa o fi moda acum, sa se 'valureasca' plafonul. biggrin.gif

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Pai au vazut ca nu conteaza la stele. Au mai scos si de acolo ceva centi.


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Creca pavilonul flutura SOS si MAYDAY in Morse si in limbi.


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