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post 10 Aug 2008, 09:08
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nu sunt, patesti ca in primul post.


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QUOTE(xcss @ 10 Aug 2008, 10:06)
In general, becurile astea nu sunt compatibile cu intrerupatoarele variabile (cu reostat, sau cum le-o zice, ca nu-s electrician). Nu stiam ca nici cu cele cu luminita...
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Acum nu-s compatibile cu Luminita, maine cu Maria, poimaine cu Florica s.a.m.d.

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nu sunt, patesti ca in primul post.
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post 10 Aug 2008, 09:32
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Is prea fitoase, in cazul asta...


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post 10 Aug 2008, 09:41
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Profule, cred ca bausi cam mult de ziua lu' matale de imi devenisi asa filozof peste noapte. 04.gif


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post 10 Aug 2008, 09:45
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Eh... filozofu' zacea demult in mine, acu' doar a iesit la suprafata... 04.gif Cat despre becuri, mie mi se pare ca la astea economice ce castigi pe mere dai pe pere, pentru ca trebuie schimbate mai des decat cele clasice... sau eu de 10 ani nimeresc numa' loturi cu probleme...


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post 10 Aug 2008, 09:52
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Bre, cauta ceva ieftin si bun! ras hohote.gif


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post 10 Aug 2008, 10:03
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Aha. Si cu sufletul in rai, nu? smile.gif


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post 10 Aug 2008, 10:05
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Pune mana pe bisturiu si opereaza becurile alea bolnave!


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post 10 Aug 2008, 22:03
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QUOTE(argon @ 10 Aug 2008, 09:01)
se pare ca unii nu au inteles ca ma refeream la luminita din intrerupator. De pe instructiunile scrise pe cutia unui bec am aflat ca nu sunt compatibile cu intrerupatoarele cu 'luminita'.
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uite ca io am in casa cutiile de la 3 modele de becuri, si nicaieri nu scrie nimic de intrerupatoarele cu led.


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post 11 Aug 2008, 02:01
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nici la mine nu scrie, dar are un simbol pentru variator:


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post 11 Aug 2008, 10:33
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Da, ca nu merg cu variator scrie pe toate... Dar nu am vazut niciodata sa scrie pe ele ceva despre intrerupatoarele cu "luminita" smile.gif

Cat despre durata de viata, am cumparat in 2001 vreo 10-12 Tungsram-uri (au pus ai mei prin casa si prin curte, am pus si eu in casa vreo 2) si majoritatea merg inca... Cele puse afara au mai crapat (nu cred ca sunt facute pt. exterior, dar au rezistat eroic).


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post 11 Aug 2008, 10:53
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si eu am cumparat 2 becuri (unul cald si unu rece happy.gif ) Philips de 24w(120w). au 4 ani si inca merg chiar daca am intrerupatoare cu lumina de veghe iar timpul de raspuns pentru aprindere este imediata.


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post 11 Aug 2008, 10:59
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prin "led-ul" de la intrerupator, care de fapt numai led nu e, trece un curent mic dar suficient ca sa incarce niste condensatori si declanseze din cand in cand descarcarea in gazul din tub.

Unele modele, putine ce-i drept au protectie pentru asa ceva care se poate pune si ulterior, care consta intr-o rezistenta de 100-200K in paralel cu becul (lipita pe placa lui) care previne incarcarea respectivilor condensatori, sau scoaterea ''led-ului'' din intrerupator, eu am ales varianta 2, mi-a luat 5 minute in toata casa.


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post 11 Aug 2008, 15:41
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QUOTE(argon @ 11 Aug 2008, 11:59)
prin "led-ul" de la intrerupator, care de fapt numai led nu e, trece un curent mic dar suficient ca sa incarce niste condensatori si declanseze din cand in cand descarcarea in gazul din tub.

Unele modele, putine ce-i drept au protectie pentru asa ceva care se poate pune si ulterior, care consta intr-o rezistenta de 100-200K in paralel cu becul (lipita pe placa lui) care previne incarcarea respectivilor condensatori, sau scoaterea ''led-ului'' din intrerupator, eu am ales varianta 2, mi-a luat 5 minute in toata casa.
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Asta s-a aflat deja

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Eu am in casa numai becuri economice si intrerupatoare cu bec de veghe.
Nu am nici un efect de palpaire la nici un bec.

Probabil ca raspunsul sta in tipul de becuri folosite. Eu am numai OSRAM, cu lumina calda, de diferite puteri si dimensiuni.
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nu sunt compatibile cu intrerupatoarele cu 'luminita'.
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De pe ce cutie de bec? O poza, ceva?

Esti sigur ca nu se referea la variatoare?


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post 28 May 2010, 00:53
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deci cum ramane dispar cele incandescente si raman doar astea ? neon

e de bine e de rau cum e ?Chemam sfatul batranilor ? smile.gif


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post 28 May 2010, 01:41
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economie , salvarea planetei alea cu filament marea majoritate a energiei consumate se transforma in caldura


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post 28 May 2010, 07:26
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Parca doar cele de 100 s-au interzis.
S-a interzis fabricarea lor, parca nu si comercializarea.


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post 28 May 2010, 07:54
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vom fi obligati sa ne montam xenoane pe masini care au iesit din fabrica cu becuri incandescente? tongue.gif


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post 28 May 2010, 10:00
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se apuca chinezii de facut , cind se arde unu dinala arde si siguranta


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post 28 May 2010, 10:23
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Ai dracu cu economia lor... ne-am sucit ne-am invartit si tot la neoane am ajuns...doar ca machiate.


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post 28 May 2010, 10:24
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becurile economice nu-s neoane, e alt princiupiu, ati desfacut dulia la unul? NASA frate!

eu am trecut la iluminat cu leduri, 1W spotul, si mai am si 'clasice' asa http://www.osram.com/osram_com/Consumer/Ho...IC_P/index.html dar inca sunt destul de scumpe.


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post 28 May 2010, 10:30
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nu ,sint tuburi florescente ras hohote.gif numai ca in locul balastului clasic (droser) au unul electronic cu 4 diode 2 tranzistoare 2 bobine si citeva rezistente


intr-adevar cu leduri este cel mai economic si dupa mine au numarul cel mai mare de ore de functionare fata de restul becurilor

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Apropo de salvat planeta de la incalzirea globala... e adevarat ca becurile economice contin ceva mercur ? blink.gif


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post 28 May 2010, 10:33
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corect, ramai la clasice, contin argon.


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post 28 May 2010, 10:34
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da un pic , eu personal am vazut bobite de mercur in unele tuburi de neon de 40W (nu 36 ) facute la romlux


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Si argonul asta (gazul adica) e si el nociv sau cum?


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post 28 May 2010, 10:36
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post 28 May 2010, 10:36
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atata timp cat reciclezi becurile uzate corespunzator, mercurul ala nu are nici o implicatie, dar cum in Romania nu exista reciclare..

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Dar argonul?


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