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post 24 Sep 2010, 14:45
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Acel consum extraurban din datele oficiale e obtinut nitel altfel... sunt destule informatii despre cum se obtin cifrele alea...

Cat despre comparatii cu Lagan sau alte masini, nu au nicio relevanta... In regim de croaziera un astfel de motor cu i-VTEC economic functioneaza cu clapeta de acceleratie DESCHISA LA MAXIM, ceea ce ii confera niste avantaje mari fata de orice alt motor, din punct de vedere al consumului... In plus conteaza etajarea cutiei... la 115 Km/h in bord motorul are ~2100 rpm in treapta a V-a ( A/T). La M/T in treapta a 6-a are mai putin cred.

Si un dezavantaj, frana de motor e foarte foarte slaba din cauza acele clapete de acceleratie deschisa...


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post 24 Sep 2010, 14:56
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In regim de croaziera un astfel de motor cu i-VTEC economic functioneaza cu clapeta de acceleratie DESCHISA LA MAXIM, ceea ce ii confera niste avantaje mari fata de orice alt motor, din punct de vedere al consumului... In plus conteaza etajarea cutiei... la 115 Km/h in bord motorul are ~2100 rpm in treapta a V-a ( A/T). La M/T in treapta a 6-a are mai putin cred.
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O avea vtecul nus' ce smecherii prin el (in mare parte stiu, dar sa nu intram in detalii), dar clapeta aia deschisa schimba radical randamentul motorului? Il face diesel? Ma cam indoiesc. Din nou, depide cum intrepretezi "mari avantaje", ca dpmdv sunt avantaje mici. tongue.gif
La manuala in 6 trepte la 115 probabil ai vre-o 2700-2800 de ture. Nu te lua dupa automate, ca alea-s facute in legea lor.


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post 24 Sep 2010, 15:50
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La 1250 rpm in a 6-a aveam 55 kmh, daca mai tin bine minte, cu Civic-ul 1.8 i_VTEC.

Pe langa faptul ca lasa clapeta ce aer deschisa complet, intarzie inchiderea uneia din supapele de admisie. Foarte destept motorul asta VTEC. Sa nu mai vorbim de racirea pistoanelor cu jet de ulei tongue.gif

Vis a vis de frana de motor, eu n-am avut probleme in reglarea vitezei prin frana de motor. N-o fi de la cutia automata la tine ?


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post 24 Sep 2010, 16:46
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post 24 Sep 2010, 17:01
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Turbo'dizel ? laugh.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 17:23
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post 24 Sep 2010, 18:07
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De care vreti voi. Turbina sa fie si sa pape motorina. happy.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 20:26
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Diesel is the fuel of Satan 243.gif Nu esti convins pe propriile otomobile ca benzina turbo este mult mai buna decat dizalu' la aceiasi cilindree ? Sa vaz io dizal de 1200 cmc turbo cu 105 cp radmasa.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 20:34
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Si mie mi-ar placea un motor turbo pe benzina. Ai si cuplu si putere si rafinament si senzatii smile.gif
De exemplu cel de 2000 de la Vw de 211 cai ('revizia' noua a celui de 200) mi se pare foarte reusit ca specificatii date de producator - putere si turatia la care se obtine, cuplu si plaja imensa de cuplu maxim, consum.

P.S. dr_mKe daca ti se pare ca bat(em) prea tare campii poti sa stergi din posturi, eu unul nu ma supar.


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post 24 Sep 2010, 20:35
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Cand il ajung pe argon, promit sa mai sterg din posturi radmasa.gif

Cu dan impartim aceleasi pareri despre 1.2 TSI de la FauVe', dar nu recunoaste tongue.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 20:39
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Uite aici specificatiile de la o masina care chiar imi place (A4 2009 2,0 TFSI AWD).
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=196031
Mi se pare ca au reusit un agregat calumea, puterea maxima e disponibila pe un interval de turatie nu punctiform, la fel si cuplul maxim.
Vmax si 0-100 excelente pentru gabaritul ei, consumul la fel.
In plus interiorul e superb (dupa standardele mele).
Din pacate la o asemenea masina eu nu pot decat sa visez, dar imi place si asa sa citesc specificatii smile.gif
P.S. cam aceleasi specificatii sunt si pe la A4 berlina

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post 24 Sep 2010, 20:41
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Io mi-s mai realist si ma gandesc la Polo 1.2 TSI tongue.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 20:41
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Pai eu nu ma gandesc sa o detin, doar ma uit la ce au reusit aia sa realizeze, tehnologie, design, doar admir smile.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 20:42
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La sh precis o sa fie scump Allroadu' radmasa.gif Un Polo o sa aiba pret rezonabil peste vro' 3-4 ani radmasa.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 20:45
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Da' stiu, au fost cateva mii toate si costa in draci. tongue.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 20:53
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Mercede, asta-i chiar mai tare decat limousina lui argon, aia de 1.8 chiar radmasa.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 20:58
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post 24 Sep 2010, 21:01
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Cand mai trec prin Piteci, imi dai o tura ? icon_mrgreen.gif wub.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 21:05
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QUOTE(Merced @ 24 Sep 2010, 20:45)
Asta ce are?
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frane radmasa.gif

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post 24 Sep 2010, 21:05
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post 24 Sep 2010, 21:08
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QUOTE(dr_mKe @ 24 Sep 2010, 09:15)
Ce dau ? Pai oi da o pizza ? Merge ?  icon_mrgreen.gif

Merjeee,cum și nu margă?!Ca flobăru'!
Da' conduci matale ca io vreu sa bag si o bere pe langa! wink.gif
Ce vreau sa te intreb;cat oloi intra in "frijider"?Ca sa stiu sa-mi pregatesc o galetusha potrivita.


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post 24 Sep 2010, 21:09
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QUOTE(dr_mKe @ 24 Sep 2010, 20:26)
Diesel is the fuel of Satan  243.gif  Nu esti convins pe propriile otomobile ca benzina turbo este mult mai buna decat dizalu'  la aceiasi cilindree ? Sa vaz io dizal de 1200 cmc turbo cu 105 cp  radmasa.gif
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In curand o sa existe. Deja exista la Fiat turbodiesel de 1242 cmc in versiuni de 75 si 90 CP !!
Deci nu va mai mirati, se poate!

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post 24 Sep 2010, 21:10
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Daca-mi dai pisicu', conduc tongue.gif

In frijider intra 5 litre de oloi, mai precis 4.5, cam mare paguba la bujet laugh.gif

Daa' pizza o hali la ITP sau la pizzerie ? tongue.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 21:10
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QUOTE(Filip @ 24 Sep 2010, 21:09)

Deci nu va mai mirati, se poate!
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ma, noroc cu tine, eu unul nu ma mai mir si o sa dorm mult mai linistit.

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La itp coane,că io mânc urât si clefăi! 04.gif
Și dacă tot vrei să te mai dai cu mâțocu' te duci cu el să cumperi pizza! tongue.gif

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post 24 Sep 2010, 21:16
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domnu marean va salut, in octombrie esti la lucru? blush.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 21:20
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Ighen!In prima jumatate a lunii!
Apoi imi iau cateva zile de concediu ca pe finalul lunii tre' sa merg la examen la Bucuresti si vreau sa ma pun serios cu burta pe carte si sa tocesc zdravan regulamentele


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post 24 Sep 2010, 21:21
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In octombrie mi-s si io la lucru ! Deja stiu toate procedurile de la ITP !

Precis ma lasa pe mine sa-ti fac masina daca vii la Temeschwar icon_mrgreen.gif


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Nici sa nu te gandesti!Ai fi in stare sa desclei masina omului.
Io-s mai milos! rolleyes.gif


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post 24 Sep 2010, 21:35
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Si io-s milos din fire mai ! N-am forjat nici o masina cu motorul rece !


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