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post 17 Jun 2009, 12:57
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Eu nu pot vedea filmuletul, deci ce masina era?


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post 17 Jun 2009, 12:58
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post 17 Jun 2009, 12:59
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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:00
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wolverine nu merge...linkul pus de colegul haigba?


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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:08
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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:09
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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:21
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Dupa cum am spus dimineata... Playerul de pe site mergea la 12 si ceva smile.gif


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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:25
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Este noul Clio RS (restilizat), presupun ca varianta Cup.

Exista clip-ul complet pe YouTube, cautati "autocar" si aveti si textul complet mai jos:

"http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/anythinggoes/archive/2009/06/17/chasing-the-ford-focus-rs.aspx"

Important e faptul ca Focus RS a mers cu ESP cuplat si Clio cu ESP decuplat.

"The Focus, as you probably know, is a sort of four-wheeled equivalent of the second coming. It’s so quick and so composed, it’s already taken care of what is arguably one of the greatest performance cars of the modern era; the Nissan GTR. When we compared the two recently we found the Ford to be more fun, more civilized, half the price and damn near as fast as the GTR in real world conditions – assuming you have some sort of a conscience and aren’t prepared to drive like a lunatic just to make a point.

So the idea of comparing a car that’s good enough to put one over the Nissan GTR with a Renault that has two-thirds the power, well, like I say, to begin with it wasn’t my idea of fun."

insa concluzia:

"The Clio’s relative lack of weight and its extra agility meant that, if pushed, it could corner harder and stop faster than the Ford. And that was a very big surprise indeed.

When we reached the end and parked up my hands were pretty much welded to the steering wheel, and my heart was about ready to burst. The Renault had got airborne at least twice and gone sideways a lot more than I’d planned. But after three miles it was still nailed to Ford’s back bumper, and the expression on Matt’s face when he climbed out said it all. He looked disgusted, and amused, and confused, all at exactly the same time.

The Clio had blown both of us away. Maybe it wasn’t such a bad idea, after all."


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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:27
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We agreed that Matt would drive as fast as he could but with all the Ford’s various traction and ESP systems still engaged. I was allowed to turn the traction control off on the Clio, a small but important advantage over the crests and jumps at Millbrook.

Why??? blink.gif

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amazingly – it wasn’t completely destroyed by the Ford in a straight line, either.

Eu am vazut in primul film (al doilea nu merge) ca in linie dreapta Clio-ul nu ramane DELOC in urma. Ceea ce e prosteala pe fata.


In viraje nu zic nu, e mai controlabila Clio. Da' pe iesire il manaca cu fulgi cu tot aia de 2.5l turbo.
In aceeasi nota, pune un Elise sa se fugareasca cu un Gallardo pe un drum ca ala.
Sau o parcare contracronometru intre un Smart For-Two si un S-Classe.

Ideea ar fi ca se pot face multe pentru publicitate si mai ales pentru audienta wink.gif


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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:30
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Depinde totusi si de pilot, nu?

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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:32
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Pai fara ESP mai statea Fordul pe strada? smile.gif


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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:37
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QUOTE(R19/16v @ 17 Jun 2009, 14:32)
Pai fara ESP mai statea Fordul pe strada? smile.gif
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ESP-ul e pentru bunica, daca mai da pentru permis si-si ia Focus dintr-ala.
Pentru un pilot, ESP-ul e balast.


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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:38
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Sunt 305 de cai si 440 Nm care trag masina... ESP e musai la el...


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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:44
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"soferul" fordului e un incepator... ii ia mult prea mult sa puna o amarata de frana plus ca in momentul in care face fordul tripod e inca cu piciorul pe frana ford.jpg ( Size: 37.25k ) Number of downloads: 692
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cel mai bun test ar fi fost in genul celor de la 5th gear in care acelasi om face traseul cu ambele masini. asa s-ar fi vazut clar diferenta.


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post 17 Jun 2009, 13:45
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ESEPE, nu controlul tractiunii, nu diferential autoblocant!


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post 17 Jun 2009, 14:12
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Road test chief and all-round tasty wheelman Matt Prior drove the RS while muggings here got the keys to the Renault.

nenea tester... ia citeste mata articolul si vezi cat de incepator e soferul fordului ala....

dar na...cum sa se tina domne un reno de 200 de cai ...de ditamai fordul.......

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post 17 Jun 2009, 14:14
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QUOTE(tester @ 17 Jun 2009, 14:44)
"soferul" fordului e un incepator... ii ia mult prea mult sa puna o amarata de frana plus ca in momentul in care face fordul tripod e inca cu piciorul pe frana ford.jpg ( Size: 37.25k ) Number of downloads: 692
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cel mai bun test ar fi fost in genul celor de la 5th gear in care acelasi om face traseul cu ambele masini. asa s-ar fi vazut clar diferenta.
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post 17 Jun 2009, 14:26
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QUOTE(ArtVandelay @ 17 Jun 2009, 00:49)
ce avea renault cand ford scotea primul rs in 2002? sau escort-ul cosworth ? sau cand domina la raliuri? ce facea renault atunci?
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post 17 Jun 2009, 14:32
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cred ca intrebarea este ce face FORD acum? doarme-n bocanci? laugh.gif


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post 17 Jun 2009, 14:46
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mda, dupa cum se indeparta focusul de clio, imi dau seama ca totul a fost "pe bune".

Un motor aspirat de 200 cp cu 200 nm cuplu sta langa un motor turbo cu 300 cp si 400 nm pe linie dreapta? Siiigur!
In curbe e clar ca o masina mai usoara sta mai bine. Pe partea asta sta foarte bine Clio.
Astept cu mare interes un test la Top Gear biggrin.gif Stie careva cand apar noile episoade?

P.S. Noul Clio sport e urat cu spume. Modelul precedent arata mai bine de 10000000 de ori


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post 17 Jun 2009, 14:51
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Partea cu frana in curba e cam de kko...


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post 17 Jun 2009, 14:58
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dar de ce nu au mers ambele masinu cu ESP-ul activat/dezactivat? Ar fi fost mai corect asa


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post 17 Jun 2009, 15:07
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Ce am observat din unghiul meu neutru: nimeni de p-aici nu-i tine partea Fordului din motive subiective, in schimb admiratorii Renaultului sunt foarte agresivi.

De ce spun unghi neutru in cazul meu - Focusul nu-mi place, mi se pare o masina gresita din capul locului, peste 200 cai n-au ce cauta pe FWD, cu atat mai putin turbo. Pe langa asta, fostul Focus mi se parea a fi o masina frumoasa. Asta nu.
Dimpotriva, Clio mi se pare o masina corecta sub toate aspectele, iar pe cel vechi il gasesc chiar f frumos.

Dar ce au facut astia tot facatura ramane wink.gif


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post 17 Jun 2009, 15:09
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QUOTE(b76bgaarh @ 17 Jun 2009, 12:40)
oare de ce piuia la greu esp.... nu are buton de full off?????
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Noul RS are shift light+sound. Bipaia ca intra in limitare.

Marketing o fi, da intreb si eu ca ciobanu, de ce nu s-au deranjat cei de la Ford sa dea o raita pe nurburgring cu RSul inca?


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QUOTE(b76bgaarh @ 17 Jun 2009, 15:12)
Road test chief and all-round tasty wheelman Matt Prior drove the RS while muggings here got the keys to the Renault.

nenea tester... ia citeste mata articolul si vezi cat de incepator e soferul fordului ala....

dar na...cum sa se tina domne un reno de 200 de cai ...de ditamai fordul.......

deci rad in continuu.....
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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 17 Jun 2009, 15:14)
E chiar pilotul de teste sef al celor de la Autocar.
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daca chiar e super pilot de teste atunci facutura e maxima. faza cu frana ori e facuta intentionat sau e greseala de incepator.... sa trecem peste... dar trasele pe care a mers cu masina numai trase de pilot profesionist nu sunt.


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post 17 Jun 2009, 17:01
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Trebuie sa fim realisti ca pe circuit Focusul il facea muchi pe Clio, dar pe strada e cu totul altceva. Cu vreo 2 pagini in spate era un filmulet intre Focus si GTR si au recunoscut ca GTR-ul facea Focusul pe circuit varza, dar pe sosea se schimba datele problemei.


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post 17 Jun 2009, 21:55
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incredibil cat de usor il ajunge pe rs, clio-ul in curbe. Si cat de bine mergea clio-ul,parca era pe sine. Bravo renault, o masina de nota 10


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post 6 Aug 2009, 10:16
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iarasi a ramas in urma fordul rs, http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?d...TrUrl=Translate

deocamdata e in urma cu 9s fara de r26.r, pe Nordschleife


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post 6 Aug 2009, 10:40
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cand batranelul vorbitor, care ne "garanteaza" rezultatul, va rezista sa filmeze mai mult de odata traseul facut cu focusul mai vorbim.
se poate vedea clar cum difera soferul in cadrul imaginilor din super testul lor. capul batranelului nu iar incapea intr-o casca completa, se vede clar.
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post 6 Aug 2009, 10:50
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