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post 24 Sep 2006, 00:06
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Nu stiai bine !
Nici un F1 nici in Rally nu se foloseste sau folosit vre-odata asa ceva !
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S-a folosit la Lancia Delta S4 o solutie tehnica cu compresor volumetric (Volumex) pt. boost pana pe la 4500 rpm si un turbo (KKK) dupa aceea turatie, asta pt. a elimina turbo-lagul. In versiunea de rally de grupa B, masina avea 470CP (din motor de 1.8 litrii) la 1000kg.


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BNZ, felicitari pentru prestatia de ieri. Si totusi, ce a mancat de dimineata Suzuki-ul Swift albastru?. Bravo B2. Felicitari si pentru ceilalti timisoreni. Va ma asteptam.


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post 25 Sep 2006, 14:20
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..tine tot asa bnz !!!!!!!!!!!!! tongue.gif


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post 1 Oct 2006, 23:57
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salut
in primu rand respectele mele pt munca depusa la mainuta si pt toti ceilalti care fac din daciute ceva cu care sa le dam peste nas la aia sme.

acum am si o problema: pe la inceput spuneai si tu si robert(SGM) ca mergeati cu r.c. 11, cat anume ai rabotat din chiumoasa si cu ce benzina mergeai, nu facea detonatii??? la aprindere era ceva modificat atunci?? avansu vacumatic ?

As fi vrut si eu turbo dar pana atunci mai sunt multe de invatat.

sanatate si bani de benzina sa fie la toata lumea


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Si ca tot veni vorba de r.c. , ce volum are camera de ardere la chiulasa de 1.4 ? Difera volumele c.a. intre ele la 1.3 , 1.4 si 1.6 ?


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Ah nu mai stiu cat am luat din chiuloasa...poate SGM mai stie sa-ti spuna.
Benzina de 98 si nu aveam detonatii.Aprindere am facut rost de una electronica adaptata pt dacie de catre un mosh,tare buna aprinderea aia !


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post 6 Oct 2006, 20:28
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3mm, daca tin eu minte bine.


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post 7 Nov 2006, 19:47
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salut...ti ai luat pana la urma r5?


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post 7 Nov 2006, 21:27
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Foarte corect...acum detin 2 bestii ! biggrin.gif


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post 18 Nov 2006, 01:40
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Putin offtopic dar legat de bestia no. 2 : intheshadowavatartw9.jpg

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post 18 Nov 2006, 02:24
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buna treaba ai facut.
Dar ia zi acum la ce presiune mergi cu turbina si RC ce valoare are??
Pistoanele scobite sunt la toate R5 cu turbo? sau numai la modelele mai performante?


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post 18 Nov 2006, 09:04
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sunt pistoane custom wink.gif


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post 18 Nov 2006, 18:00
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QUOTE(yknot @ 18 Nov 2006, 09:04)
sunt pistoane custom wink.gif
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...si presiunea la fel,custom in fuctie de "client"
Dar ca sa o sumarizam...in jurul a 1.3 boost.
RC nu am calculat...


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post 18 Nov 2006, 19:32
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pai si care-i smecheria cu pistoanele custom?? alea drepte in cap ce0au(asa sunt cele originale de R5??, ca am vazut ca la R18T sunt scobite)??? Si astea custom sunt facute din cele originale si luate la srung? Cat ai luat din adancime, ca la asa ceva ma gandeam si eu, dar eu vroiam sa fac un fel de gaura(in forma de calota de sfera blink.gif asta nu stiu daca am spus-o bine), nu 2 cercuri. Si cu pistoanele astea custom pana la ce presiune crezi ca poti sa urci, dar cu cele stock??

Inca ceva: in caz ca urci presiunea prea mult, risti sa se topeasca pistoanele sau sa arzi garnitura? care cedeaza prima? Este posibil sa se rupa arborele?

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post 18 Nov 2006, 22:53
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garnitura prima

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post 20 Nov 2006, 09:49
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QUOTE(madmaxtata @ 18 Nov 2006, 19:32)
pai si care-i smecheria cu pistoanele custom?? alea drepte in cap ce0au(asa sunt cele originale de R5??, ca am vazut ca la R18T sunt scobite)???    Si astea custom sunt facute din cele originale si luate la srung? Cat ai luat din adancime, ca la asa ceva ma gandeam si eu, dar eu vroiam sa fac un fel de gaura(in forma de calota de sfera blink.gif asta nu stiu daca am spus-o bine), nu 2 cercuri. Si cu pistoanele astea custom pana la ce presiune crezi ca poti sa urci, dar cu cele stock??

Inca ceva: in caz ca urci presiunea prea mult, risti sa se topeasca pistoanele sau sa arzi garnitura? care cedeaza prima? Este posibil sa se rupa arborele?
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post 20 Nov 2006, 16:44
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incercarea moarte n-are. Cel mai important daca sunt pistoanele de GTT si daca sunt drepte asa stock. Si mare intrebare cat ai luat in adancime? nu ma intereseaza celelalte dimensiuni nu ma intereseaza(secretu fiecaruia). A si inca ceva ca sa nu fie prea mare schimbarea: alea de gtt sunt mai groase in carne decat cele de dacie???(de ex: eu am dat o gaura in blocu motor acolo unde vine curbat la baza si are grosime de 5mm unde e unghiul ala si mai jos unde e portiune mai dreapta 6mm).

Eu nu ma grabesc, asa ca va astept cu raspunsurile. deocamdata ne documentam.


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post 20 Nov 2006, 16:49
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1,5 mm in adancime


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cunoscatorii stiu ce pistoane sunt alea. Multi pe pot avea in motor fara sa stie.


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post 21 Nov 2006, 15:15
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Cand se organizeaza cursa BNZ VS SGM ?


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post 21 Nov 2006, 18:31
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Pai ca cei mai tari 2 magneti de poli pozitivi,nu se pot apropia una de alta,deci un se intrevede nici o materializare a cursei wink.gif
Masiniile vor ramane legende,fiecare pe jumatatea ei de tzara !

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Cand o sa plateasca FLP o platforma sa aduca BNZ-ul in Bucuresti, sau SGM-ul in Timisoara, atunci.


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QUOTE(madmaxtata @ 18 Nov 2006, 02:24)
buna treaba ai facut.
Dar ia zi acum la ce presiune mergi cu turbina si RC ce valoare are??
Pistoanele scobite sunt la toate R5 cu turbo? sau numai la modelele mai performante?
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Ca necunoscator pot zice ca:
pentru a imparti cat mai multe piese, motoarele sunt mai comprimate sau mai decomprimate si datorita formei pistonului.

  • piston "cocosat", pentru motor normal aspirat, are aceasta forma pt o compresie maxima.
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  • pistoane forjate, pentru motor turbo, care permit diverse compresii. La motoarele turbo compresia trebuie sa fie mai mica, pentru a putea suporta presiunea venita de la turbina.
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Nu am spus-o cu nici o rautate sau altceva, era doar o curiozitate oricum raspunsul lu BNZ mi-a placut smile.gif

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post 27 Nov 2006, 16:42
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vad ca sunt oameni priceputi pe aici ..asa ca am si eu o intrebare..ca pe motoarele cu carburator inteleg care i treaba dar la cele cu injectie nu! deci....cum sa r putea pune turbina pe injectie??? excl.gif


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este chiar mai usor pe motoarele cu injectie electronica wink.gif


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..injectie multi punct mecanica(cu delcou ) blush.gif


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daca are delcou asta nu inseamna ca e mecanica!
injectia electronica este cea care comanda electronic momentul, si timpul de deschidere a injectoarelor


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injectoarele se deschid de la 5.0bar in sus ,presiunea e data de pompa de benzinna ,fara calculator sau alte minuni...am inteles ca este un tip in iasi care si a pus asa ceva dar avea calculator pt ca era motor de golf2, insa al meu e identic cu golfu 1,dupa ce si a pus turbinuta (zice el ca doar cu cea de Subaru Legacy 2litri 16v avea performante) a batut r5 alpine g2 gti 16v si altele......suna ff tentant rolleyes.gif


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