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post 30 Jan 2007, 22:41
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De la batrani, bineinteles. radmasa.gif


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Exteriorul este facut la cota de presare, interior este facut astfel incat dupa presare miezul de poate culisa.

Bucsile de monteaza astfel incat baza cilindrului sa frece pe urechile de la lonjeron, in caz ca vine vreun destept si spune ca pleaca bascula fata-spate.

NU bate, Nu troncane, Nu e nici o diferenta de confort, doar de performante. Directia este mult mai ferma, unghiurile nu se mai modifica in viaje violente.

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post 31 Jan 2007, 12:59
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post 31 Jan 2007, 15:07
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ce material au bucsile astea intre inelul metalic si camasa (adica miezul)?


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post 31 Jan 2007, 16:56
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alea nu-s cumva bucsi de teflon?cu miezul metalic? daca da am mai vazut eu...facute artizanal...cica tin mult......


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post 31 Jan 2007, 18:07
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mai mult decat masina.


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post 31 Jan 2007, 18:10
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Teflonul este un material moale, care are deformare plastica. Nu il recomand pt busci.


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post 31 Jan 2007, 18:59
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Poliuretan? Scirtiie? Se aud ceva zgomote?


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post 31 Jan 2007, 20:04
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Teflonul este un material moale, care are deformare plastica. Nu il recomand pt busci.
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pai atunci din ce sunt ? daca se poate sa ne zici........


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post 31 Jan 2007, 20:12
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Eu mi-am bucsat bratele inferioare (bascula) cu bucsi teu amortizor dar inainte, am bagat in brate niste bucsi metalice pe care le-am bagat presat si le-am lipit cu Loctite si am taiat din distantierul dintre bucsi, i-am facut niste bielete antiruliu modificate, are bara de torsine majorata la diam de 26mm dupa care am facut un reglaj al directiei pe un stand computerizat si sta masina in viraje ca pe sine, mult succes!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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post 31 Jan 2007, 20:45
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Eu mi-am bucsat bratele inferioare (bascula) cu bucsi teu amortizor dar inainte, am bagat in brate niste bucsi metalice pe care le-am bagat presat si le-am lipit cu Loctite si am taiat din distantierul dintre bucsi, i-am facut niste bielete antiruliu modificate, are bara de torsine majorata la diam de 26mm dupa care am facut un reglaj al directiei pe un stand computerizat si sta masina in viraje ca pe sine, mult succes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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eu cred ca nu ai nici un avantaj...nu te supara...dar daca o bucsa "custom" facuta de tine are cauciucul din ea mai subtire si ai o distanta de apasare mai mica....e mai rigida masina...rupe din aderenta in curbe mai ales....poate un avantaj mic.......poate nu m-am exprimat corect !!!

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post 31 Jan 2007, 21:31
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Am scris mai sus, ca nu scoate nici un zgomot ciudat, nu scartaie, nu bate. Miezul a fost lubrefiat cu vaselina inainte de montare. Modificarea a fost facuta pt performanta.

Pt confort, recomand alta masina, nu Dacia.

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post 31 Jan 2007, 21:36
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Pt confort, recomand alta masina, nu Dacia.
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biggrin.gif asta asa e......
dar de ce nu ne zici ce material e ala....


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post 31 Jan 2007, 21:37
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Ok, si daca ne-ai spune de unde sunt, din ce sunt, daca se gasesc sau fabrica pe undeva, ar fi perfect. Ne-ai aratat pozele ca sa vedem ca se poate, da' e secret, sau ca sa le folosim si noi ?

Uite, eu am suspensia varza si articulatiile tot varza. M-ar interesa si pe mine bucse de genul asta.

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post 31 Jan 2007, 22:03
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Se pare ca ar fi poliuretan.Mai ales daca sunt de la batrani!
Asai Robert?

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post 31 Jan 2007, 22:03
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am eu la munca buscsi tot cam ca astea de isuzu(mini bus)....materialu e la fel....aflu si va spun maine la toti.....sgm nu vrea sa spuna !


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post 31 Jan 2007, 22:13
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v-am tinut in suspans. Poliamida!


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post 31 Jan 2007, 22:17
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v-am tinut in suspans. Poliamida!
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pai daca e asa maine imi fac un set de bucse de astea la mine la munca wink.gif ! eu si cu strungaru !


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post 31 Jan 2007, 23:30
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Ai grija cum calculezi cota interioara in care intra miezul, astfel incat dupa ce presezi bucsa in bascula, miezul sa se poate invartii (nu foarte usor).

La montare centreaza bucsile astfel incat zaza cilndrului sa frece pe urechile de pe lonjeron, sa nu aiva cum sa se mista bascula fata-spate.

Obligatoriu vaselina peste tot,sa nu o usture! Bafta !

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post 31 Jan 2007, 23:35
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robert si cat a ajuns sa faci 6 bucati? ca eu am bucsaraia varza si daca tot e sa o fac peste vreo luna asa, as mai astepta oleaca sa mai strang niste banuti sa-mi fac si eu.
acum alta intrebare cam cat te tin astea?(in km)


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post 1 Feb 2007, 00:51
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M-a dus la 80 lei alea 6(material +mana de lucru), si mi-a mai ramas material, din ce am cumparat.

Nu le mai schimbi in viata ta. Tin mai mult decat masina.


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post 1 Feb 2007, 02:21
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robert dar ai vazut pivoti tot asa custom. cand se mai toceste mai strangi oleaca surubu in cap si mergi mai departe. facea un tatal la un coleg, dar nu mai stiu ce punea in capul pivotului. Ce zici nu ar merge sa punem tot poliamida si se rezolva si cu pivotii. + ca daca strangi mai tare o sa ai joc si mai mic la calea de rulare.


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post 1 Feb 2007, 07:07
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Nu v-ati saturat de pivoti cu reglaj... Vreti sa va sara dracu' rotile!

Daca cele mai "bune" bucse de brat care se gasesc in magazine sunt Fartec, la pivoti va recomand sa cautati Lucas TRW. Sunt facuti in tarile cu traditie in apa calda.

As fi curios daca SGM a gasit o solutie pentru bucsele de tirant wink.gif

PS: zici ca ti-ai facut 6 bucati. De ce n-ai facut 8 ca ar mai fi mers 2 la bratul central al puntii spate...


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post 1 Feb 2007, 09:53
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Ce vaselina ai pus la montaj, simpla sau d-aia cu silicon mai lipicioasa? Eu am avut poliuretan si trebuiau unse periodic(6 luni), altfel cam scirtiiau la miscari ample ale suspensiei.

Oricum, buna miscare, rezistenta marita, deflectie minima in curba, dpdv al performantei imbunatirile sint vizibile.

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Unde as putea gasi "Poliamida " in Valcea ???


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muttley cui dracu i-au sarit rotile tata? ca asa se zicea si cu bieleta antiruliu ca se rupe ca zboara si dai in sant. eu il stiu pe ala cu pivoti si stiu cum merge si ii are de cel putin 4 ani si merge numai prin hartoape ca de drumurile noastre.


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In primul rand, acesti pivoti sunt inventii tipic romanesti. Carpeli adica. Sigur ca merge sa compensam uzura unei articulatii sferice cu un surub!!! wacko.gif La fel cum merge sa reconditionam pivoti si bielete de directie cu ciocanul. Le faci ca noi, nu alta.
Intr-al doilea, nu da nimeni in sant cand se rupe bieleta antiruliu. Doar daca se rupe in plin viraj, se inclina brusc masina. Da' macar n-o iau rotile la plimbare
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post 1 Feb 2007, 20:59
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Bucse... nu bucsi, fi-v-ar matematica a dracu'! radmasa.gif
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Cuzineti elastici. radmasa.gif

Pt tirant, CLASICA solutie cu bieleta de directie sau pivot superior !


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