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Lostboy
post 18 May 2007, 10:29
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sigur diesel-urile au același compresor cu benzinele?
că și la mine (mpi) se aude când intră gmv-ul în treapta a doua. dar e un zgomot fain, discret. nu huruit.
alți diesel-ari cu ac nu ne pot da impresii?
au drujbe sau nu?
că noi la benzine avem la greu smile.gif


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post 18 May 2007, 14:02
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Am fost si eu in service cu multdiscutata problema. Mi-au montat pe conducta de joasa presiune o greutate metalica la care-i spune MASA ACUSTICA si surpriza zgomotul e mult mai discret Codul de la respectiva piesa e 6001550584 Nu a disparut de tot zgomotul dar a devenit suportabil


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post 18 May 2007, 14:09
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Nu pui si o poza sa vedem si noi masa aia inertiala ?


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post 18 May 2007, 14:17
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nu pot pune poza acum E o bucsa metalica de vreo 40 mm lungime si cu grosimea peretelui de 5-6 mm taiata in 2 si prinsa pe furtunul de joasa presiune cu 2 suruburi intre cele 2 jumatati Nu te gindi la ceva complicat


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post 18 May 2007, 14:21
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Daca este doar metal atunci reduce vibratia si scade frecventa de rezonata. Daca avea si cauciuc rezultau doua armonici mai mici.


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post 18 May 2007, 14:27
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QUOTE(prody @ 17 May 2007, 17:25)
Nu prea vad pe nimeni cu DCI plangandu-se de astfel de probleme desi este acelasi compresor. Sau poate la diesel drujba principala eclipseaza zgomotul de la drujba mai mica? smile.gif
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Se poate! Eu nu am constatat zgomote suspecte. Evident... cind pornesc AC-ul, zgomotul creste un picut si cred ca e normal de altfel...
QUOTE(nh1980ro @ 17 May 2007, 19:22)
Eu as zice ca la DCI nu prea ajungi la 3000rpm asa des cum ajungi la benzinare.
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Si cind ajungi/depasesti 3000rot "zgomotul de fond" cred ca acopera o parte din zgomotul datorat AC.
QUOTE(DFA @ 18 May 2007, 08:26)
La dCi compresorul nu prea se aude, în schimb se aude GMV-ul când pornește direct în treapta a 2-a odată cu pornirea AC-ului.
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Confirm. Si cred ca tocmai asta e sursa zgomotului suplimentar amintit un pic mai sus.


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post 18 May 2007, 14:36
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QUOTE(mariuscond @ 18 May 2007, 14:27)
Confirm. Si cred ca tocmai asta e sursa zgomotului suplimentar amintit un pic mai sus.
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Păi el e singurul care se aude! Zgomotul făcut de compresor nu este decelabil, fiind acoperit de treapta a 2-a GMV-ului, care, cel puțin la dCi-uri este cam singura ocazie cu care pornește la treapta a 2-a, pentru că restul timpului stă nemișcat.


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post 18 May 2007, 16:41
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Codurile de la piesele de Logan incep cu 6001?


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post 18 May 2007, 16:42
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post 18 May 2007, 16:58
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Greutatea aceea se pune pentru rezonanta(vibratii) si se monteaza pe furtunul conductei.Nu este montat fierul direct pe furtun,in interior are o bucsa de plastic.


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post 18 May 2007, 17:09
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Asa mai vii de acasa. Pui si o poza ? Ca tot ne-ai obisnuit.

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post 21 May 2007, 04:34
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Partea prosta este ca pentru a fi montata trebuie taiata pe jumatate deoarece nu se poate baga pe conducta chiar daca ar fi desfacuta.Probabil ca am sa lipesc cele doua jumatati sau am sa le prind cu doua coliere.

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post 21 May 2007, 07:30
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si se simte ceva?
1. sunt curios cum ajuta la reducerea zgomotului.
2. daca codul e 6001550584 iar codulrile de la piesele de logan nu incep cu 6001, sa fie de solenta?
3. Cam cat costa?


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post 21 May 2007, 08:16
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ce greutate are? wink.gif


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post 21 May 2007, 08:33
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QUOTE(Lostboy @ 21 May 2007, 08:30)
codulrile de la piesele de logan nu incep cu 6001, sa fie de solenta?
Te-ai chinuit mult pana ai zis asa ceva ?


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post 21 May 2007, 08:39
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nu m-am chinuit dar am observat ca tu ai raspuns la intrebarea nh1980ro ca NU?
Să fi fost ironick în exprimare?!?!


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post 21 May 2007, 08:49
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Am raspuns nu pentru ca cele cu 600... sunt coduri de Dacia, nu de Logan.


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post 21 May 2007, 08:57
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aha...ok.
nu m-am trezit bine. smile.gif)


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post 21 May 2007, 09:05
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Lostboy, 820.... este renault

Doctorasul, poti sa pui o poza si cu pozitionarea ei ? Mersi

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post 21 May 2007, 11:30
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Ironick , se monteza la distanta de 13cm(masurand furtunul conductei din partea stanga a pozei) si are 218gr.

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post 21 May 2007, 11:43
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Deci putem pune orice prostie in greutate de 218 grame la 13 cm de conducta de metal. Cool....sa isi bage codul in fund. Cine stie cat mai costa si prostia asta...


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post 21 May 2007, 11:43
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cam ce pret are?


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post 21 May 2007, 13:24
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Costa aproape 5 euro.

driverx, ai legatura ...

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post 21 May 2007, 13:56
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@doctorasul: Se simte vreo diminuare a zgomotului?


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post 21 May 2007, 14:02
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 21 May 2007, 14:24)
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driverx, ai legatura ...
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Cinque Euro? O bucata de plastic? Mult, mult, dincolo era mai eftin. radmasa.gif


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post 21 May 2007, 14:31
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Inca nu am montat bucsa pe conducta,daca ma lasa ploaia poate o montez in cursul zilei de azi.
Nu am remarcat pana acum sa fi facut vreun zgomot conducta cu pricina,inclin sa cred ca bucsa este pusa sa protejeze conducta de vibratiile(o fi cedat vreuna?).


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post 21 May 2007, 14:36
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Cu ce ai taiat bucsa ? Intreb si eu ca se pierde din greutatea metalului la bomfaier, flex, .....
Poate un colier metalic compenseaza din greutate.

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Il prinzi cu bride d'alea si recuperezi o parte din greutate. Don't worry, nu se simte diferenta. Doar nu crezi ca doua furtune AC de logan is la fel.....


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post 21 May 2007, 14:52
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Am taiat-o cu bonfaierul,gramajul pierdut se recupereaza cu colierul.Oricum nu cred ca influenta prea mult.

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post 21 May 2007, 18:35
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Si eu precum capra raioasa: nu ar merge facuta o greutate din aia din plastilina epoxidica? Se pune o bucata de plastic (ca sa nu fuga, am niste indoieli ca ar avea un alt rost) si zdrong cu plastilina aia...
Iar pentru taietura ingusta (pierderi minile): cu panza de traforaj de metale.


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