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femeile in general conduc cu frica, la ele orice e peste 70-80 km/h e super viteza nu conteaza ca-i autostrada libera...asta nu inseamna ca nu sunt si femei care conduc foarte bine - insa alea-s exceptiile.

proaste e asa un termen general - e pacat ca distrug masinile cu stilul lor de condus...ma repet nu ma refer la TOATE ci doar la majoritatea covarsitoare.

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Si Daewoo Lațeii aia a ta ce baza tehnica are?
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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:16
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QUOTE(tony-s @ 28 Feb 2015, 14:08)
evident ca sunt si companii  spaniole mult mai mari - Cepsa,Banesto,Mapfre,Festina,El Corte Ingles...
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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:24
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Daca nu venea criza spaniolii ii depaseau in 2-3 ani pe jermani la pib/cap ....e drept ca acum diferenta s-a marit (masurile de austeritate impuse de jermania au adancit criza in toata ioropa, inclusiv in spania) insa daca spaniolii voteaza corect in toamna si ies de sub cizma jermana in maxim vreo 5 ani sunt peste jermanio la pib ppp/cap.

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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:25
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QUOTE(tony-s @ 1 Mar 2015, 20:24)
Daca nu venea criza
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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:38
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jermania n-a prea fost afectata de criza pt. ca ei de vreo 60 de ani traiesc pe spinarea altora, pe langa armata asigurata de americani mare parte din infrastructura a fost construita de hitler pe datorie pe care jermanii n-au mai platit-o niciodata inapoi....

Doar daca USA nu le asigura armata si jermania cheltuia in ultimii 60 de ani un 1 % din PIB in plus pe armata acum ar fi avut o datorie de cel putin 150-200 % din PIB si erau intr-o situatie mai proasta decat grecia.



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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:42
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QUOTE(tony-s @ 1 Mar 2015, 20:38)
jermania n-a prea fost afectata de criza pt. ca ei de vreo 60 de ani traiesc pe spinarea altora
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spre diferenta de SUA,care platesc cu 10 centi un copil sa le coase converșii

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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:45
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QUOTE(tony-s @ 1 Mar 2015, 20:38)
mare parte din infrastructura a fost construita de hitler pe datorie
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datorie către cine?


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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:46
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Era ful de datorii.Franci elvetieni.De aia s-a sinucis


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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:47
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Taci mă! slap.gif

Ne explică stony.


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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:48
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Pai nu stiu ca jermanika sa asigure armata in USA, reciproca e valabila....in rest americii nu prea stiu sa le fi sters cineva vreodata datoriile ...jermaniei i s-au sters toata datoriile dupa ww2.

Ca sa nu mai zic ca USA mai finanteaza inca cel putin vreo 5-6 tari - Israel,Japonia,Kuweit,Bahrain....si mai asigura diverse finantari si prin alte parti - e drept nu la fel de mari ....

Tari care sa finanteze USA eu nu stiu ...bine la cat de mare e economia USA oricine altcineva i-ar putea finanta doar cu maruntis ..poate mai putin mirobolanta ciaina (bine in cazul ciainei am eu asa o banuiala ca toate cifrele-s umflate macar cu 20-30% in cunoscuta practica a comunistilor).

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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:51
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Tu zi de-unde a luat Hitler datoria pentru autostrăzi, lasă vrăjeala.


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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:51
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De datoriile SUA ai auzit?Sau sunt vrajeli?Nu stii la cine a are datorii?Iti spun eu:catre China


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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:54
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Pai orice tara are datorii ....asta inseamna economia de piata ...eu am spus ca nu le-a sters nimeni datoriile nu ca nu au datorii.

USA are cam 80% din PIB datorii externe - o valoare medie in randul tarilor dezvoltate .....iar in ciuda legendelor cam 75% din datoriile USA sunt detinute de cetatenii americani.


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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:55
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Tonele, n-o mai zgudui. Unde avea avea Hitler datorii pentru Reichsautobahn?


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post 1 Mar 2015, 20:57
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QUOTE(Markos @ 1 Mar 2015, 20:51)
Tu zi de-unde a luat Hitler datoria pentru autostrăzi, lasă vrăjeala.
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Hitler prin anii 30 era bine vazut nu doar in ioropa ci in toata lumea - de aia s-a organizat olimpiada in 1936 la berlin...mare parte a autostrazilor au fost facute in anii 30 cand hitler s-a imprumutat de peste tot inclusiv de la greci.

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QUOTE(tony-s @ 1 Mar 2015, 20:57)
mare parte a autostrazilor au fost facute iin anii 30 cand hitler s-a imprumutat de peste tot inclusiv de la greci.
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post 1 Mar 2015, 21:01
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Pai n-am zis ca neaparat catre greci era cea mai mare parte a datoriei jermanilor..probabil cei mai importanti creditori erau prietenul stalin, amicii austro-ungari...chiar daca se destramase imperiul austro-ungar.

hitler a devenit cancelar la inceputul lui 1933 si inca de atunci avea vise cu al 3-lea reich si a dat drumul la constructia masiva de autostrazi pt. a se putea deplasa rapid tancurile si in acelasi timp a dat drumul la inarmare.

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Working conditions were hard and the pay very low, because it was based on the lowest local wage and unlike unemployment payments did not include an allowance for living expenses. There was also no payment until winter 1938 for bad weather days when work could not take place. Workers were initially housed in barracks, barns, industrial buildings, and tents and complained about the work, the conditions, and the pay. On October 18, 1934, the workers on the Hamburg - Bremen segment of the autobahn at Gyhum went on strike; the 141 who could not be talked into resuming work were transported to Berlin for interrogation by the Gestapo. To avoid a recurrence of such problems, a policy was put in place of investigating men for political reliability before they were hired for work on the autobahn, access to the workers' camps was restricted, a surveillance network was instituted in which the Gestapo participated increasingly, and the few SA members among the workers were organized into Baustürme (construction storms) that provided both example and intimidation at work sites.

The Reichsautobahn was initially to be financed by a road use tax, but in 1936 this was rejected and instead fuel taxes were raised and car owners taxed. In addition, the Reichsbahn and the national bank provided loans. However, approximately 60% of the financing came from the Reichsanstalt für Arbeitsvermittlung und Arbeitslosenversicherung, the government employment department. At the end of the war, total costs were 6.5 billion Reichsmarks, of which 4.6 billion RM was still owed, almost 74% to the employment department.


Da mă, s-a împrumutat de la greci, bulgari și români. Și de la spanioli și italieni.


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probabil cei mai importanti creditori erau prietenul stalin
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Cu Stalin a ajuns "prieten" în 1939. Până în 1941. Tu chiar ești paralel cu noțiuni elementare de istorie, da' zici că te pasionează sad.gif

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Si de la americani.Care finanteaza toata galaxia


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astea-s povesti de propaganda ...e naiv cineva care crede ca nebuniile cu inarmarea ale lui hitler si cu constructia de autostrazi puteau fi sustinute doar de economia jermana care oricum nu prea mergea grozav in perioada aia...e evident ca s-a imprumutat masiv - probabil cum am mai spus cel mai multe de la amicii stalin si austro-ungari...

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Macar de stia ca le-a facut ca sa mituie electoratul,scrie pe net.A facut 3500 km in 8 ani


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post 1 Mar 2015, 21:07
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QUOTE(daniM @ 1 Mar 2015, 21:05)
Si de la americani.Care finanteaza toata galaxia
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Așa, corect, uitasem.


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e evident ca s-a imprumutat masiv - probabil cum am mai spus cel mai multe de la amicii stalin si austro-ungari...
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Logica stony, în toată splendoarea ei. "E evident, probabil.."

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stalin l-a sustinut pe hitler sa ajunga cancelar si mai apoi fuhrer ...adica vorbim de anii 33-34

Pai ok n-am o statistica exacta cu datoriile acumulate de hitler insa e de presupus ca au fost mai ales de la prietenii stalin si austro-ungari, probabil si mentorul musollini.

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QUOTE(tony-s @ 1 Mar 2015, 21:08)
stalin l-a sustinut pe hitler sa ajunga cancelar si mai apoi fuhrer ...adica vorbim de anii 33-34
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Stony, intreb si aici ca dincolo nu mi-ai raspuns: Ai copii? Sunt curios.

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eu nu ma refer la pactul ribentrop molotov...stalin cu mult timp inaite il sustinea pe hitler.....jermanii si rusii aveau legaturi traditionale de prietenie si diverse pacte inca din ww1.

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QUOTE(tony-s @ 1 Mar 2015, 21:06)
astea-s povesti de propaganda ......e evident ca s-a imprumutat masiv - probabil cum am mai spus cel mai multe de la amicii stalin si austro-ungari...
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QUOTE(Markos @ 1 Mar 2015, 21:03)
Da mă, s-a împrumutat de la greci, bulgari și români.
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Taci, ma! Tu-n loc sa te bucuri, protestezi? Io deja mi-am inventariat toti strabunicii si deja am gasit fro trei, chiar patru de la care pot paria ca Hitler a imprumutat ceva maruntis. Abia astept sa vina frau Angela pe la noi, sa-i cer banii inapoi. Cu o dobanda modica, evident, ca doar suntem pretini: 2.835.409.543.684%...


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Ia gata, mă bag la un serial, că mi-a rescris stony toată istoria interbelică și-s confuz.


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