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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:03
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si ELECTROZI

stie cineva cum se confectioneaza acesti electrozi ?

(am citit ceva de genul ca se ingroapa o faza in perete..ceva de genul asta,,dar neconcludent)



metoda clasica ar fi :
-curatat pana la beton
-spalat cu clor (clor,hipoclorit,savo,bison,etc)
-izolare cu extrudat (sau vata minerala,vata de sticla,expandat)
-rigips
-lavabila antimucegai
-folosirea unui dezumificator,aerisire periodica,incalzirea constanta a camerei


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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:08
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De ce te-ai obosi sa cureti peretele daca pe urma il acoperi cu polistiren si rigips, in felul asta blocand evaporarea condensului?


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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:16
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Egrasia, ai legatura.


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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:22
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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:23
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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:23
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E offline, de obicei este E-Grasia.


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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:24
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Nu te-ai fi dus sa participi si tu. Pot sa jur ca rupeai pe piesa asta:
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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:26
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QUOTE(Victoras2001 @ 8 Nov 2011, 21:23)
Hehe, ma uit.  icon_mrgreen.gif
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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:28
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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:31
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Ba episodul de ieri a fost chiar interesant.


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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:34
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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:43
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QUOTE(Merced @ 8 Nov 2011, 21:34)
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Si raspunsul la a doua intrebare?


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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:44
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@ magelan_explorer:

piatra vanata.

Solutia: o lingura la 2 litri de apa. Aplici cu pensula/bidineaua inainte de amorsa/vopsea numai pe interiorul peretelui.


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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:47
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post 8 Nov 2011, 21:53
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Prietene, tu n-ai spus nici macar ce vrei in primul post. Banuiesc ca vrei sa scapi de umezeala.
Solutia nu e neaparat solutia de nu stiu ce. E ca-n medicina, tratezi cauza si elimini efectul, nu tratezi direct efectul si lasi cauza, ca revine.
Asadar depinde de multi factori. E casa pe pamant, e apartament la bloc, e in oras, e in padure, e locuita non-stop, e locuita doar vara, e locuita doar de cateva ori pe an, o aerisesti zilnic, n-o aerisesti cu anii, bate apa pe undeva...
Nici macar n-ai spus daca e vorba de un perete, de tavan sau de toata casa.
Daca nu elimini cauzele, degeaba cauti zemuri si electozi.
Aerisitul e sfant. Plus caldura constanta. Daca sunt indeplinite aceste doua conditii, n-o sa-ti trebuiasca nici dezumidificatoare, nici zemuri nici altceva.
O casa fleasca, daca o izolezi ca la carte, o sa-ti faca mari probleme. Nu mai are pe unde sa se evapore apa din ea.


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post 8 Nov 2011, 22:26
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eu am aplicat pe pereti savo a facut cu brio fata la mucegai


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post 8 Nov 2011, 23:07
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QUOTE(Victoras2001 @ 8 Nov 2011, 21:53)
Prietene, tu n-ai spus nici macar ce vrei in primul post. Banuiesc ca vrei sa scapi de umezeala.
Solutia nu e neaparat solutia de nu stiu ce. E ca-n medicina, tratezi cauza si elimini efectul, nu tratezi direct efectul si lasi cauza, ca revine.
Asadar depinde de multi factori. E casa pe pamant, e apartament la bloc, e in oras, e in padure, e locuita non-stop, e locuita doar vara, e locuita doar de cateva ori pe an, o aerisesti zilnic, n-o aerisesti cu anii, bate apa pe undeva...
Nici macar n-ai spus daca e vorba de un perete, de tavan sau de toata casa.
Daca nu elimini cauzele, degeaba cauti zemuri si electozi.
Aerisitul e sfant. Plus caldura constanta. Daca sunt indeplinite aceste doua conditii, n-o sa-ti trebuiasca nici dezumidificatoare, nici zemuri nici altceva.
O casa fleasca, daca o izolezi ca la carte, o sa-ti faca mari probleme. Nu mai are pe unde sa se evapore apa din ea.
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exact,vreau sa scap de umezeala
intr-o CAMERA de BLOC,pe un singur perete din BETON (perete exterior,evident)
casa e locuita,camera nu,fenomenul a aparut acum,doar in acea camera,doar pe
acel perete(nu e peretele cu geam),exact dupa ce am pus termopan,nu bate apa,o aerisesc zilnic
la CALDURA am o problema:nu mai merge caloriferul in acea camera,acum e prea tarziu
sa-l repar/schimb
dimineata,geamul e plin de broboane de apa,peretele in cauza + peretele cu geamul sunt f reci
momentan am bagat un radiator electric in camera ca o solutie temporara


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post 8 Nov 2011, 23:12
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QUOTE(Victoras2001 @ 8 Nov 2011, 21:53)
Aerisitul e sfant.
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Da' ce e, ma? Butoi de varza murata?


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post 8 Nov 2011, 23:39
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QUOTE(magelan_explorer @ 8 Nov 2011, 23:07)
exact,vreau sa scap de umezeala
intr-o CAMERA de BLOC,pe un singur perete din BETON  (perete exterior,evident)
casa e locuita,camera nu,fenomenul a aparut acum,doar in acea camera,doar pe
acel perete(nu e peretele cu geam),exact dupa ce am pus termopan,nu bate apa,o   aerisesc zilnic
la CALDURA am o problema:nu mai merge caloriferul in acea camera,acum e prea tarziu
sa-l repar/schimb
dimineata,geamul e plin de broboane de apa,peretele in cauza + peretele cu geamul sunt f reci
momentan am bagat un radiator electric in camera ca o solutie temporara
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Pai ti-ai cam raspuns singur la intrebare. Igrasia apare ca urmare a procesului de condensare a vaporilor de apa din perete. Vaporii de apa se transforma in umezeala atunci cand mediul pe care il tranziteaza (in cazul tau peretele cu pricina) atinge temperatura de roua. Temperatura de roua depinde direct de doi factori. Umezeala din camera si temperatura din camera.

Montand fereastra termopan ai redus semnificativ ventilatia care inainte se producea prin neetanseitatile ferestrei vechi. Nu contest ca aerisesti, dar probabil ca nu aerisesti destul.

Avand si caloriferul defect, ai indeplinit la fix conditiile: temperatura scazuta + umezeala marita => temperatura de roua scade foarte mult => apare condens => apare igrasia.

Decat sa tin in camera aia un radiator electric, mai degraba as incerca sa las usa de la camera pemanent larg deschisa.

Subiectul (condens, igrasie) a fost tratat mai pe larg la topicul legat de termoizolarea blocurilor.

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scapa de umeazeala ca daia apare mucegai, incalzeste camera bine apoi ia un spaclu si vopsea


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post 9 Nov 2011, 12:20
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Cred ca el zicea ca dupa ce a terminat cu reparatia sa ia si un dezumidificator ca sa il ajute sa previna reaparitia mucegaiului.


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O lampa cu benzina rezolva mucegaiul prezent. Cu spori cu tot. Pentru mucegaiul viitor, recomand modelul de robinet de calorifer care are numai pozitia deschis.


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Daca pana si un arhitect sugereaza sa combata efectul si nu cauza, ma las de meserie...
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chimic sau electric

ala electric se poate face duntr-o lada frigorifica , principiul e acalasi , ceva rece pe care sa condenseze apa


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