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tyka
post 6 Mar 2004, 00:48
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dece OCEBE ai vazut tu ca eu nu .Zine si noua daca ai vazut sa vedem si noi. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post 6 Mar 2004, 00:49
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dacati intra ulei an filtru e clar ai segmenti cocsati sau sparti. :?


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post 6 Mar 2004, 07:00
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2-300 km un litru de ulei.Io zic ca nui problema

n-am vazut, dar am citit (de aia am pus si citatul); altminteri, pentru un motor in 4 timpi, cum sa nu fie problema 1 litru ulei la 2-300 km?


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post 8 Mar 2004, 00:04
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mie asa ami mananca si mai si pierde pe la palir prin spate,cred ca sa cenzuratiut semeringu. biggrin.gif smile.gif sad.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif 022.gif icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 8 Mar 2004, 20:57
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:oops: fac in jur de 2-250km numai in oras, intre doua complectari , da nu pun mai mult de 200ml de ulei ,


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post 9 Mar 2004, 00:33
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e bineeeeeee. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


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post 9 Mar 2004, 12:09
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:oops: MERSI, CE ZICETI VOI DE UNDE IMI APARE ULEI PE BUJIE LA PISTONUL 4, CARE AR FI CAUZA CA TOTDEAUNA AM PROBLEME NUMAI CU ACEL PISTON. SE ULEIAZA BINE BUJIA SE COCSIFICA SI GATA, IAR TREBUIE CURATATA DUPA CARE MERGE O VREME IAR.


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tyka
post 9 Mar 2004, 23:17
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ai segmenti aliniati.sau supapa nuti anchide bine. icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 10 Mar 2004, 18:19
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:oops: si asta ce inseamna segmentat sau mai rau?


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post 12 Mar 2004, 01:16
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daca ai aliniati segmenti anseamna ca ai camasa ovala si cred ca trebuie sa schimbi camasa sau setu,se poate ca mecanicu care a bagat setu sa nu fii pus bine segmenti. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post 12 Mar 2004, 09:55
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:oops: ok ,am sa va spun cind aflu care era baiul


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post 12 Mar 2004, 09:59
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Poate ma lumineaza si pe mine cineva cu drumul uleiului spre filtru de aer la dacia


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post 12 Mar 2004, 10:18
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Nu exista un asemenea "drum" al uleiului spre filtrul de aer in cazul daciilor!


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post 12 Mar 2004, 13:38
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Pai cineva mai inainte se plingea ca a gasit ulei in filtrul de aer.


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post 12 Mar 2004, 14:20
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Pai cineva mai inainte se plingea ca a gasit ulei in filtrul de aer.


Sincer sa fiu nu am am mai auzit de aceasta problema decat in cazul Oltcit-urilor atunci cand in baie este nivelul prea mare!


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post 12 Mar 2004, 14:26
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Mie mi-e de altceva...
Sa nu-i fi aruncat ulei pe la simeringul de la distributie si sa-l fi aspirat filtrul.Sau poate din scut...
Oricum acolo e ventilatorul asa ca...
...e doar o teorie..


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post 12 Mar 2004, 14:56
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Intradevar, mi se pare o explicatie foarte plauzibila!


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post 12 Mar 2004, 16:24
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Eu cred ca este doar o teorie.Peste simeringul de distributie este un capac daca nu ma insel si cit ulei sa curga ca sa-l arunce fulia si sa-l traga filtrul de aer apoi,nu,nu,este numai o teorie,credeti-ma :!:


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post 12 Mar 2004, 19:32
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daca scapa semeringul de la distributie, mult din uleiul scapat, datorita sensului de rotatie a arborelui "se depune" pe semiaripa dreapta, deci pe partea filtrului de aer; daca tot a ajuns pe semiaripa, cat mai are pana sa-l "aspire" filtrul ? poate parea SF, da' mai stii?


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post 13 Mar 2004, 00:49
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nu cred chestia asta,asta doar daca ati curge la greu. icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 13 Mar 2004, 09:42
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si atunci de ce sufletul meu aveam ulei si-n c*r cind era bulit semeringul de la distributie. Picta cureaua alternatorului intr-o veselie pe capota icon_evil.gif .


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post 13 Mar 2004, 14:00
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Probabil acel simering era bulit in sensul ca nu mai era,dar la Nova cred ca este alta poveste(ai Nova,nu?),nu cumva are filtrul de aer chiar pe carburator? si nu cumva circuitul de recuperare al gazelor se termina chiar in filtrul de aer?


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post 14 Mar 2004, 11:51
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Filtrul e pe carburator, dar circuitul de recuperare e normal, din T in galeria de admisie.
Eu nu am gasit ulei in filtru, dar pe capota avea la greu.
Si semeringul era dar era uzat, iar uleiul era bine-merci angrenat de fulie si plimbat pe cureaua alterantorului peste tot.


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post 14 Mar 2004, 13:30
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La 1300 circuitul de recirculare duce o parte din gaze in carburator si o parte in colectorul de admisie prin duza calibrata de pe furtun,in general la toate masinile cu carburator gazele se ramifica in felul acesta si cred ca nici Nova nu face exceptie.


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post 14 Mar 2004, 15:07
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am si io o intrebare pe aicea....
daca masina ciupeste nitzel, dar nitrel de tot, sa zicem 1-2 mm pe joja de ulei, la cateva sute, dar numai dupa ce uleiul respectiv implineste minim!!! 1000 km, asta ce se inseamna?
setu e nou, are 10000!
treaba asta poate avea vreo legatura cu pornirea grea de asta iarna?
nu scoate fum albastru, merge rotund..etc!


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post 14 Mar 2004, 16:05
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Orice motor indiferent cit de nou este maninca ulei,mai exact il arde,problema este cit arde la 1000 km,in general la motoarele care au simeringuri pe supape se accepta in consum max de 250 ml la 1000 km iar cele fara simeringuri pe supape daca ard mai putin de 1000(o mie)ml la 1000 km este in regula.
In privinta masinii tale,eu zic ca nu maninca ulei,joja are 2 zone fiecare dintre ele reprezinta 1 litru,fa si tu socoteala si pot sa te asigur ca pornirea grea din aceasta iarna are alte cauze.


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post 14 Mar 2004, 20:13
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dupa socoteala mea e vorba de 100-200 de ml..dar totusi si inainte sa fac motorul am avut aceeasi problema, de fapt de aiai l-am si facut, a fost cumva gratis...
in fine, voiam insa sa zic ca am avut un break din '99 care mergea numa cu ulei romanesc cate 10000, a avut 6 schimburi in 80-90 de mii de km1
ma crezi ca nu lipsea de pe joja nici macar un singur gram intre schimburi?
cat de jegos era motorul nu mai conteaza, dar totusi!!!!

si eu am bagat si 2+2, si liqui molly (inclusiv de ala cu molibden)..
efectul se vedea la presiune, dar de mancat tot papa..
insa numai dupa primii 1000-1500(ASTIA SUNT KM CU NOUL ULEI, SPER CA S-A INTELES, NU KM MOTORULUI!!)

DE CE NU MANANCA DIN MOM IN CARE II FAC SCHIMBUL SI BAG ULEIUL CEL NOU???
DE CE TRE SA MERG 1000 CU ULEIUL SI DUPA AIA SCADE?
nivelul il masor in aceeasi pozotie, ca am loc de parcare fix, asa ca poate nu e exact, dar e raportat la aceeasi pozitie a masinii de fiecare data!
imi poti da o explicatzie pt asta?


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post 15 Mar 2004, 00:06
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ati mananca ulei.Ori ai semerigurile dela supape uzate[de caldura]?ia verifica. icon_mrgreen.gif icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 15 Mar 2004, 03:09
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cum verific??
in motor la propriu nu m-am bagat pana acum!!!
ce-mi recomanzi sa fac exact??


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post 15 Mar 2004, 23:27
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ATUNCI LASAL asa si le shimbi cand umbli an el.E complicata chestia. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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