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post 15 Mar 2007, 09:49
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vezi ca uleiul 10w40 semisintetic e mai vascos la cald decat 20w40 mineral wink.gif incredibil asa-i? e mai vascos pentru ca isi pastreaza propietatile mai bine, find semisintetic. Teoretic ar trebuii sa aiba aceasi vascozitate, dar un ulei mineral 20w40 dupa 3-4000 km nu prea mai isi pastreaza vascozitatea de nou.


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post 15 Mar 2007, 09:53
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QUOTE(argon @ 15 Mar 2007, 09:49)
vezi ca uleiul 10w40 semisintetic e mai vascos la cald decat 20w40 mineral wink.gif    incredibil asa-i?
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incredibil ptr. tine biggrin.gif poate.....un 20w40 mineral mai bun adica mobil1 sau valvoline e mai recomandabil de pus pe motoru de dacia pe carburatie.....pe dacia cu injectie merge un semisintetic....motoarele-s la fel dar difera sistemul de aprindere si asta face tot....la injectie arderea e aproape completa ! parca am mai discutat noi asta ,nu?


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post 15 Mar 2007, 09:56
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Tu poti pune ce vor muschii tai, eu la fel, ce vroiam eu sa zic e ca merge Dacia perfect cu ulei semisintetic, uleiul mineral, orice marca ar fi tot mineral ramane ,alta tehnologie invechita.

Apropos de consum, cartea de Dacie zice ca un consum de pana la 900 ml la 1000 km e normal, consumul meu e de 60 ml la 1000 km si asta cu ulei 10w40...de la 60 la 900 ml e cale lunga.


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post 15 Mar 2007, 10:04
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la dacia pe carburatie nu se face ardere completa...adica mai scapa un pic de benzina(cantitati enorm de mici) in jos(in carter)...la injectie nu se intampla asa sau daca se intampla e mult mai putin......de ce la daciile pe injectie tine motoru 200000 km(tine cont ca e acelasi motor) ? de ce teava de esapament e caramizie ?
stiai ca uleiu sintetic daca e atins de benzina se faca varza? ala mineral rezista mai mult ! nu e normal dar se intampla !
de aia s-a deschis topicul de racire ulei....racindu-l are parametri aproape normali excluzand "uzura" lui.....
pana la urma fiecare face ce vrea cu masina lui.......

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post 15 Mar 2007, 10:06
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pana una alta eu am aproape 140 000 km si masina n-a vazut ulei mineral decat in rodaj de noua, asa ca nu-s curios cum se face uleiul sintetic varza la contactul cu benzina biggrin.gif end of post-336-1110552475.gif


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post 15 Mar 2007, 11:15
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A mea cu 10W40 a "consumat" ulei numai la drum lung; asta pina am pipait busonul constatind ca e umed si i-am schimbat saiba din Cu cu una stil O-ring din Cu cu Pb. De atunci nu mai consuma; consumul ala de fapt era pierdere (100ml la 600 km, ma speriasem) si asta la drum, cind motorul atingea temperaturile de regim pe perioade mai lungi.
Nu pute a benzina, e onctuos si la 6500-7000, se innegreste, deci, spala.
Toba depune cafeniu la drum lung si cenusiu-negricios antracit pe drumuri scurte.


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post 15 Mar 2007, 12:09
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QUOTE(argon @ 15 Mar 2007, 09:49)
vezi ca uleiul 10w40 semisintetic e mai vascos la cald decat 20w40 mineral wink.gif 
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post 15 Mar 2007, 12:10
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trebuia sa citesti si in continuare .


PS: dar e mai simplu sa-ti faci simtita prezenta printr-un post mai mult sau mai putin stupid. wink.gif

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post 15 Mar 2007, 12:22
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QUOTE(argon @ 15 Mar 2007, 08:55)
In 8000 km imi consuma max jumatate de litru, deci nu completez intre
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post 15 Mar 2007, 12:22
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amanunte?! in fine, ma dau batut, nu mai stric orzul pe gâște.


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post 15 Mar 2007, 12:44
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daca ziceai ca a consumat 1l te credeam.........dar 500 ml e putin.....

la un mers batraneste merge consumul tau.........dar un mers in trafic...drum lung cu viteze mai mari de 120 de km/h sau incarcat etc nu merge consumul zis de tine..........



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post 15 Mar 2007, 13:07
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La ultimul schimb, pe care l-am facut mai repede adica pe la 6000 km lipseau 300 ml, la cel de dinainte la 8000 fara vreo 200 lipseau aproape 500 ml, tot timpul masor cat ulei ars scot din motor inclusiv cel din filtru, benzina nu intra in el, ca mai verific joja la 2 saptamani si nu s-a simtit niciodata miros de benzina. De mers merg in mod normal la 100-110 si 120 pe autostrada, ca la mai mult zgomotul in masina e deranjant.

Acum ca stii tu mai bine cat ulei imi consuma e alta poveste wacko.gif


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post 15 Mar 2007, 13:13
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ok. ai un super motor........ multumit........?
daca acum se ridica unu pe forum si zice mie imi consuma dacia 3l la 100 de km vrei sa il aplaud? sau il laud? asta e parerea mea......


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post 15 Mar 2007, 20:13
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ce-mi plac mie topicurile despre ulei.si mie imi zicea ca 10w60 e pre fluid pt dacie:))acu 2 ani am avut 6850km ulei elf 10w40 si la mers destul de tare cu ea mi-a consumat 800 grame.si mergeam cu 120-130km/h pe unde apucam ca benzina era 4 free biggrin.gif

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post 15 Mar 2007, 22:49
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Pt racirea uleiului...sa nu mai fim off topic.

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post 15 Mar 2007, 23:07
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de unde si cat !


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post 16 Mar 2007, 13:23
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Ai incercat tu ceva, dar nu a iesit tocmai ce trebuia. Parerea mea este ca e prea mica gaura de admisie si colectare a uleiului. Incearca sa frezezi pe semicerc in dreptul gaurii, tangent la canalul de garnitura, respectiv fata de asezare a filtrului. La fel recomand stuturile sa aiva gaurile interioare mai mari. Altfel o sa ai o cadere de presiune destul de mare in radiator, ceea ce nu e foarte bine!

Trebuia facuta mai groasa flansa, asta nu cred ca iti va permite gauri de 8mm in stuturi.


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post 16 Mar 2007, 20:40
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smile.gif oricum a facut ceva:))


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Am realizat si eu ulterior...si am uitat si de gaura pentru suprapresiune, acum e la rectificari.


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nu e neaparat nevoie sa dai acea gaura. Aia este pt o amorsare mai rapida cu ulei a motorului


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http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/167442

oare o merge adaptata tehnologia si pe dacia ? icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 24 Jun 2007, 00:56
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QUOTE(Adrianno @ 24 Jun 2007, 00:44)
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/167442

oare o merge adaptata tehnologia si pe dacia ?  icon_mrgreen.gif
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post 24 Jun 2007, 11:07
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Dar poate te uiti si pe ce motor e aplicata solutia aia, ca sa observi cam ce diferente sunt intre el si cel de Dacie..... rolleyes.gif


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post 24 Jun 2007, 11:35
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200 sx daca nu ma insel. 1.8 16 volti, turbo


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Si bun pana la vreo 450 de cai si 7000 rpm daca tin eu bine minte. Oarecum diferit fata 1.4 l 54 de cai si 5250 rpm..........


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1.4 are 62 cai, ala de 54 e 1.3


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si daca as adopta sistemul de racire care il aveam pe vechiul R18, adica un radiator cu electroventilator, o flansa care venea infiletata intre filtru de ulei si blocul motor, nu ar merge ?? unele componente de la racirea de la r18 le mai am in garaj smile.gif


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post 26 Jun 2007, 20:58
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eu pe vw ia m pus radiator de ulei, si acum mi se incalzeste uleiul mult mai repede...de ce mi se intampla fix invers???????sau ce se intampla de mi se aprinde becul de la ulei, ca nu mai pricep nimic??? ohmy.gif


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