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post 11 May 2010, 20:02
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ok.de curent nu mai stiu. smile.gif


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post 11 May 2010, 23:04
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Cataline, la postul 197 ai explicat foarte corect schema de functionare si acum incurci omul cu 5 motoare pe acelasi circuit? Deci pentru Marian: daca alarma pe care o ai nu are iesire dedicata pentru actuatorul portbagajului(adica comanda aparte) se aplica schema explicata mai sus de Catalin,Se face inlocuirea unui actuator dintr-o usa cu 2 fire cu unul cu 5 fire ,iar cel ramas (cu 2 fire) se monteaza in haion.Instalatia masinii va actiona tot 4 motoare,cel de al 5 -lea va fi pe un circuit separat,adica instalatia nu iti va actiona actuatorul odata cu celelalte 4 ci doar iti activeaza butonul exterior permitand alimentarea actuatorului de la haion numai cand usile sunt descuiate.Iata schema:

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post 13 May 2010, 15:52
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aa asta era faza cu actuatorul cu 5 fire montat intr-o usa din spate...
multumesc pentru ca m-ai lamurit...
am descoperit ca inchiderea mea are fire pentru butonul de inchidere deschidere din bord...erau matisate cu instalatia...

inchiderea mea se legaga de +ul permanent care vine la tabloul de sigurante din habitaclu...un fir albastru deschis ceva mai gros
am vazut pe tabloul de sigurante ca are o masina cu usile deschise...(semnul specific), sincer nu am verificat sa vad daca e + permanent acolo dar am sa fac asta...
intrebarea: acea siguranta este destinata inchiderii centralizate??masinile cu inchidere stock, de acolo au alimentata inchiderea centralizata???


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post 7 Jun 2010, 09:37
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am si eu o intrebare, actuatorul dupa ce actioneza revine in forma initiala, nu ca la inchidere, daca pun un fir la masa si celalalt la iesirea auxiliara de la alarma ar trebui sa mearga, mai trebuie pus releu????.stima


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post 7 Jun 2010, 09:43
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Ce vrei sa faci mai exact? Ce problema ai?


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post 7 Jun 2010, 09:45
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vreau sa imi fac deschidere la porbagaj din telecomanda de la alarma,

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cum se numeste chestia asta incercuita in poza, unde gasesc sa cumpar?

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post 7 Jun 2010, 09:49
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Un fel de brida metalica pentru prinderea celor doua tije. In general se vinde impreuna cu actuatorul, si tija metalica care merge in paralel cu tija din fabrica care actioneaza incuietoarea de la hayon.

Vrei sa fie actionat actuatorul de la hayon impreuna cu celelalte 4 actuatoare, atunci cand dezarmezi inchiderea centralizata?


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post 7 Jun 2010, 09:52
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NU, alarma are iesire auxiliara cu buton separat pe telecomanda, vreau sa leg un fir de la actuator la masa si celalalt la alarma la iesirea auxiliara(in cutia ei ncare o are montata sub volan), ar mai fi necesara montarea unui releu. ms pt raspuns


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post 7 Jun 2010, 09:55
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Pentru a nu forta motorasul, ai putea monta un releu... eu unul am pus actuator la hayon, actionat de un push-button si nu am mai montat releu, iar actuatorul este legat la +12v permanent, fiind conditionat doar de push-butoon. Il am montat de cateva luni si nu am avut probleme cu el. Daca ai releul poti sa montezi, daca nu ai nu ar fi mare crima.

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post 7 Jun 2010, 10:34
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releu nu am dar nu cred ca ar necesita pt ca la telecomanda daca apesi butonul ii da un semnal, s-ar putea sa arda alarma fara releu.stima


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post 7 Jun 2010, 11:22
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dupa toate ploile care au fost in bucuresti,butonu meu inca rezista.
A curs la apa pe el si nare nimic. biggrin.gif sunt multumit.
Nu mai zic de spalat ca bate apa in el cu jet.


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post 7 Jun 2010, 14:19
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actuatorul trebuie sa traga nu sa impinga, am montat si ceva nu mi-o iesit bine


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post 7 Jun 2010, 14:32
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Gresit... actuatorul trebuie sa impinga. In stare de "repaus" el sta "tras", iar cand il pui la 12v, impinge clenciul ala... acum depinde si de cum il montezi. Daca schimbi polaritatea o sa traga respectiv impinga si invers.


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post 7 Jun 2010, 14:37
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asa l-am montat, actuatorul nu ar trebui sa traga in jos ca sa impinga tija sa se deschida porbagajul

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post 7 Jun 2010, 14:40
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Uita-te pe prima pagina la postul 14. O sa vezi poze mai clare si o sa iti dai seama.


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post 7 Jun 2010, 15:55
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pozele le-am inteles,
Cu porbagajul inchis actuatorul sta cu capatul care actioneaza in sus sau in jos. mersi mult pt sfaturi

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post 7 Jun 2010, 16:13
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Ma uit diseara la a mea, iti fac poza si iti zic care tija in ce directie se duce, si cum am montat actuatorul.


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post 8 Jun 2010, 13:30
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Colegii deci daca nu.i pun releu actuatorului nu e grav nu ???? Adica nu ia foc??? radmasa.gif


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post 8 Jun 2010, 13:42
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apesi pe buton 1 sec,nu tii apasat pe el intruna.si prinbuton treci minusu.


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post 8 Jun 2010, 13:45
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pai nu plusul se trece prin buton, ninusu nu ii masa


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post 8 Jun 2010, 13:57
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io am intrerup tminusu,avand butonu afara,expus la apa.macar daca face scurt nu se intampla nimic decat deschide haionu.


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post 8 Jun 2010, 14:03
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Pai nu prea ar fi bine sa faca scurt si sa se deschida singur hayonul... intr-adevar poti sa intrerupi fie minusul, fie plusul, si nu trebuie sa apesi decat 1 secunda, sau ma rog, apesi si iei degetul imediat. Eu am tinut apasat cateva secunde acum cateva luni sa vad daca rezista instalatia si actuatorul si nu am avut probleme, in conditiile in care nu am releu.


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post 8 Jun 2010, 14:03
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Eu pun butonul inauntru asa ca o sa trec plusul prin el . Ma gandisem si eu ca daca nu il tin apasat nu pateste nimic....ma gandeam sa.i pun si o siguranta pana in buton...


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post 8 Jun 2010, 14:06
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QUOTE(Maskatu @ 8 Jun 2010, 15:03)
Pai nu prea ar fi bine sa faca scurt si sa se deschida singur hayonul... intr-adevar poti sa intrerupi fie minusul, fie plusul, si nu trebuie sa apesi decat 1 secunda, sau ma rog, apesi si iei degetul imediat. Eu am tinut apasat cateva secunde acum cateva luni sa vad daca rezista instalatia si actuatorul si nu am avut probleme, in conditiile in care nu am releu.
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oricumnu se deschide haionu decat daca e descuiata masina,in mers alarma incuie usile cand plec de pe loc,si se dezactiveaza si butonu.ca altfel era naspa,imi deschidea oricine haionu la semafor laugh.gif


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post 8 Jun 2010, 14:08
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colegu nu ai reusit sa faci pozele la hayon.stima


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post 8 Jun 2010, 14:14
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Am uitat. Am pus reminder la telefon. Diseara o sa fac.


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post 8 Jun 2010, 18:43
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biggrin.gif la mine azi s-a blocat tongue.gif a sarit parghia bucuria hotilor ca nu-l poate deschide , maine pe racoare ai vin de hac ... prea cald a fost azi pe la 13 cand am scapat cu treaba de la munca.


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post 8 Jun 2010, 22:19
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ceva practic si simplu de facut! biggrin.gif

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post 9 Jun 2010, 00:01
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marianmn ai cumva motorasul care se vede in poza legat la inchiderea centralizata ???


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post 9 Jun 2010, 00:05
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da. firul vine de la o portiera spate si se descuie/incuie portbagajul in acelasi timp cu portierele.


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