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> Tuning motor 1.4/1.6 MPi, se poate imbunatati performanta Logan-ului?

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post 24 Sep 2008, 17:46
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Bine spus, drept urmare ma simt sarantoc acu smile.gif


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post 24 Sep 2008, 19:18
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Iar va certati aiurea biggrin.gif fiecare cu ce are si cum are noroc daca poate sa scoata mai mult din motor e bine daca nu nu si gata tot infloriti ata discutia pe langa subiect sau s-a afumat totul .
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Azi am vazut si eu la unu o dacie 1310 care avea compresor de tractor biggrin.gif am ras cu lacrimi doamne ce le mai da la romani prin minte si pe asta nu-l mai opreste politia .
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Cred ca cine si-a modificat puterea la motor si daca e prins de rar si nu corespunde puterea motorului cum scrie in talon iar poate avea belele mari , se umbla cu sonda de diagnostic la motorului asta azi am aflat si eu voi stiti ceva in legatura cu ce am spus eu mai sus ?

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post 24 Sep 2008, 19:23
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Nu am auzit ... Desi niciun motor nu are puterea data de carte/scris in talon, la fel cu un altul de acelasi tip.


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post 25 Sep 2008, 14:58
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1. Ce "sonda de diagnostic" e aia, de poate sa masoare puterea motorului pe marginea drumului (sau unde te opreste RAR-ul)? dry.gif
2. Puterea poate sa se modifice si in functie de conditii independente de proprietar: conditii meteo (temperatura mai scazuta), resoftare facuta de dealer (se practica in cazul masinilor de test drive, care apoi sunt vandute cu discount), etc.
3. Cat timp te incadrezi in normele de poluare, ce treaba are RAR-ul cu caii tai putere?!


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post 25 Sep 2008, 15:00
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QUOTE(raqzvan @ 25 Sep 2008, 15:58)
resoftare facuta de dealer (se practica in cazul masinilor de test drive, care apoi sunt vandute cu discount), etc.
Se poarta chiar si la masinile date jurnalistilor ... dar nu de dealeri, asa sunt iesite din fabrica


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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 25 Sep 2008, 16:00)
Se poarta chiar si la masinile date jurnalistilor ... dar nu de dealeri, asa sunt iesite din fabrica
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pai si zici tu ca alea date de UZINA pt jurnalisti si test drive au un soft mai "deosebit" ?


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post 2 Nov 2008, 11:47
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Tu ce ai citit?


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A facut cineva chiptuning la 1.4 ? Se simte vreo diferenta notabila dupa (la accelerare, ca nu ma intereseaza ca pot sa prind maxim 170 in loc de 160)? Sau arunc banii aiurea?


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post 3 Nov 2008, 23:20
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ai rasfoit si tu astea 53 de pagini?


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am citit primele si ultimele pagini si nu am gasit ceea ce cautam; e evident ca nu voi sta 3 ore sa citesc 50 de pagini...


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post 3 Nov 2008, 23:29
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Da, dupa remapare o sa prinzi 176km/h in loc de 162/km/h, iar demarajul o sa il ai in ~11sec (la fel ca motorul de 1.6MPI). Io zic ca daca vrei racheta, merita.

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Să vezi ce demaraj am eu Ironicule. biggrin.gif Ms mult domnu!


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Cu placere! wink.gif


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post 4 Nov 2008, 10:35
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Intrebare stupida; prin service se mai intampla OTS-uri de resoftare fara sa anunte neaparat clientul. E posibil ca la o resoftare ca asta sa-ti inlocuiasca si calibrarile alea inlocuite la chituning, pierzand astfel si ceva bani?
Ironik, daca stii raspunsul, ai putea sa-l postezi?


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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 4 Nov 2008, 11:35)
Intrebare stupida; prin service se mai intampla OTS-uri de resoftare fara sa anunte neaparat clientul. E posibil ca la o resoftare ca asta sa-ti inlocuiasca si calibrarile alea inlocuite la chituning, pierzand astfel si ceva bani?
  Ironik, daca stii raspunsul, ai putea sa-l postezi?
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Am vazut in service PEUGEOT un 206 S16 motor 2.0 caruia i s-a facut resoftare (telecharge, cum ii spun specialistii) si i l-a adus iar la 143 de CP. Omu` participa la curse cu el, daduse ceva bani sa-i creasca herghelia. Va dati seama ce fata a facut cind i-au murit manjii...


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post 4 Nov 2008, 10:46
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F tare! Atunci poate face si doctorasul un ban si vinde abonamente! Sau isi ia lumea unichip.


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Sa inteleg ca a asta a fost cu susta ... tu voiai de fapt sa spui ca apare o noua serie de resoftari ...


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post 9 Nov 2008, 10:09
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a realizat cineva un motor de 1,6 comprimat? adica sa se mai ia ceva din chiulasa..


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post 9 Nov 2008, 10:15
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Ironik, nu neaparat. O resoftare se mai face si pentru un motor care merge neregulat, cand nu prea stiu ei cesa-i mai faca.


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post 14 Nov 2008, 19:14
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Gata de azi ma numar printre cei care si-au remapat masina in Oradea.
Rezultatul e super parca e alta masina exact lipsa de cuplu si de putere care lipsea Loganului de 1.6.


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post 25 Nov 2008, 12:36
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si-a montat cineva asa ceva?chiar creste puterea sau e doar vrajeala?


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post 25 Nov 2008, 12:53
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O turbina merge cel putin la 30.000-40.000 RPM-uri pe cand porcaria aia nu face mai mult de 5000RPM la 12V.


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dupa cum zice numele sitului.. dream dream long long dream


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post 25 Nov 2008, 13:03
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Eu stiu una din asta montata pe un opel astra de 1.4 parca da omu zice ca nu mertita deoarece motorasu ala nu face fata si nu da cat aer trebuie


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Adica...vroia sa spuna ca obtureaza. 168.gif


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post 25 Nov 2008, 13:11
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deci in final e vrajeala.
parea prea frumos sa mai creasca puterea cu 13 cai + chip vreo 8cai
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Treaba cu motorasele electrice e clara: trebuie sa asigure debitul de aer necesar motorului si ceva in plus.
La un motor de 1.4 inseamna un necesar de 0,7l de aer pe revolutie, ceea ce la 4500 rpm inseamna 3150 l/minut, adica 52 l/secunda.
Daca are peste debitul ala merge, daca nu...


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QUOTE(b3ny @ 25 Nov 2008, 13:11)
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Fara sa intervii in blocul motor, nu obtii aceasta putere.


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QUOTE(klaus @ 25 Nov 2008, 13:25)
La un motor de 1.4 inseamna un necesar de 0,7l de aer pe revolutie, ceea ce la 4500 rpm inseamna 3150 l/minut, adica 52 l/secunda.
Daca are peste debitul ala merge, daca nu...
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am gasit un ventilator de PC care are 133 CFM ( scythe ) , adica 281 L/sec
asta inseamana ca se poate folosi? chiar daca are doar 3000RPM ?
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