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post 17 Sep 2010, 21:51
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Camionul trage cel mai bine la 1500 rpm, pacat ca nu mai intra Bulan sa zica...dar singura asemanare cu un motor de masina mica e ca e diesel, in rest e alta mancare de peste, cutia de viteze idem.

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post 17 Sep 2010, 21:52
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acolola 1500 depinde si de camion parca ar fi putere consum optim smile.gif
cutia de viteze la camioane e pneumatica tongue.gif

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post 17 Sep 2010, 21:54
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post 17 Sep 2010, 22:07
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merced...
cred ca am facut o nefacuta!!
la opel-ul meu, motor 1.6 d, dupa ce se incalzeste motorul se aude mai strident, parca huruie mai tare decat de obicei, la rece se aude normal motorul, ce dracu sa fii patit??
sa fie asta cauza??-- cand am fost la mare cu masina am alergat-o ~ 5 min. pe autostrada, max 140km/h.

la tine cum se aude motorul la rece?? dar dupa ce se incalzeste la temp. optima??

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post 17 Sep 2010, 22:11
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Chiar habar n-am ce sa zic. Totul pare ok? Uleiul e ulei, n-are apa in el? Baga un film, eu oricum probabil ca n-o sa am habar, dar avem multi colegi mult mai competenti care sa-si dea cu parerea.

Al meu invers, cand e mai rece e zgomotos la pornire, dupaia se mai potoleste.


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post 17 Sep 2010, 22:13
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Sa vezi loganu dci cum face iarna ,zici ca se rupe,dupa ce se incalzeste e silent ,ca un disel cei drept icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 17 Sep 2010, 22:16
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da totul pare ok pe la motor!!
pierde f. putin ulei pe la baia de ulei, in rest ar fi ok!!
ca si consum e bine ~20lt. motorina Buc.- Brasov- Buc.
face asa cam de 2 saptamani.

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post 17 Sep 2010, 22:24
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2xgi ma crezi ca cu 80ron am acuma pe kilometraj 480km facuti si acu e inca intre rosu si primu sfert laugh.gif .
bagat 80 ron pe linia rosie.
io zic ca mai duce peste 500 maxim 510. ca deja alimentez io.nam chef sa moara in strada. laugh.gif
Bine bine asta e secretu unui mers relaxat cu 80 pe afara si a 5-a la 60 prin oras, ca am facut 300 km,pe afara si prin bucuresti restu biggrin.gif

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post 17 Sep 2010, 22:28
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he he he ai imbatranit 04.gif

si eu tot in stilul asta merg!!!!


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post 17 Sep 2010, 22:29
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statu ma imbatranit ,sunt carunt tot laugh.gif


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post 17 Sep 2010, 22:34
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statu degeaba sau.......alt stat?


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post 17 Sep 2010, 22:36
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ambele radmasa.gif

Asa si merced ,ca sa nu te suparam cum mai merge masina ? icon_mrgreen.gif consuma ulei tongue.gif ? i-ai schimbat rotile biggrin.gif


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post 17 Sep 2010, 22:40
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Merced nu vii in Buc. la o promotie mica??

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si ca sa nu il suparam pe Merced.. cum mai merge masina? consuma ulei? ceva nou? tongue.gif


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post 17 Sep 2010, 23:39
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De la 1:30 inainte se vede care e turatia optima la un motor de TIR si cam pe unde ar fi limita.







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post 18 Sep 2010, 07:29
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La Bucuresti o sa vin la altfel de promotii. N-am de gand sa bat drumul degeaba, sper sa vin cat de curand la sigur. tongue.gif

Masina merge cum a mers si pana acum. Ulei nu stiu, probabil ca mananca un pic, mancase cam 250ml in primii 3000km, acum am peste 4000. Pentru ca bagasem cu un litru mai putin, am mai zis, cand a ajuns la minim pe joja am turnat inca un litru peste. Uite, daca-mi aduc aminte o sa ma uit sa vad cam pe unde a ajuns. Oricum consumul e decent, teoretic daca pun cat trebuie de la inceput, n-ar trebui sa am nevoie sa completez intre schimburi. Fum albastru nu scoate, doar negreu cand o calc brusc, la viteza mare sau la turatii inalte constante nu scoate, sau daca scoate, nu-l vad in oglinda, chiar m-am uitat de treaba asta.
Bataia aia la roata fata-dreapta e in continuare la locul ei, deja m-am obisnuit cu ea.
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post 18 Sep 2010, 12:24
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Merced.. am fost azi dim. la magazin si am cumparat ulei diesel nou (elf)+filtru, schimbat cele vechi si mers cu masina pana sa incalzit, nu mai face zgomotul ala asa de tare smile.gif , uleiul cel vechi era f. negru si cam subtire, dar nici urma de apa in el. s-a incalzit ceva mai greu cu uleiul nou, sper sa fi fost asta problema!!

la fel ca la tine se comporta si masina mea- fum negru la pornire si in ture ridicate, in rest f. putin s-au deloc.

na ca am editat.... blush.gif

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QUOTE(2xGI @ 18 Sep 2010, 13:24)
( ies brobonite de apa la suprafata daca avea apa in el, nu??)
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Ma, tu ce fizica ai invatat? radmasa.gif


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post 18 Sep 2010, 12:32
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na ca l-am editat si pe asta.......... tongue.gif

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post 18 Sep 2010, 16:19
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uleiul pluteste deasupra apei, deci eventualele bobite de apa sunt pe fundul galetii smile.gif


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post 18 Sep 2010, 19:48
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La pornire, daca am motorina suficienta sa plece la sfert nu scoate pui de fum. Daca nu am, trebuie sa tin contactul mai mult, sa o ajut si din acceleratie, porneste mai greu si scoate ceva fum alb. Iar in ture, am zis, nu prea scoate. Doar daca o calci mai repede decat se tureaza, atunci da, scoate ceva. Nu foarte mult, adica am vazut multe masini diesel mai noi si mai cu pretentii care tot asa scot cand sunt calcate, unele am vazut ca scoteau si la turatii constante.
Motorul nu e sigur intr-o super stare, dar e ok, pentru cat o sa merg eu cu masina asta.


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post 18 Sep 2010, 19:52
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Stiam ca nu te atingi de acceleratie in timp ce porneste...o fi al tau model vechi?


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post 18 Sep 2010, 19:58
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Daca are motorina, nu ma ating. Daca n-are, decat sa-i dau cinci chei, mai compensez un pic. Probabil ca se poate rupe cureaua de distributie din ce am citit eu.


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post 18 Sep 2010, 20:17
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post 18 Sep 2010, 20:19
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Mai, uite inca un exemplu. Am avut un Citroen CX in familie, motor 2.2 diesel aspirat, d-asta conceput pe vremea lui bunica. La tine cel mai probabil sistemul de injectie e putin mai avansat, pentru ca ai aproximativ aceeasi putere la 1.9 cat aveam eu din 2.2 Nu stiu cat de 'in mintile lui' a fost motorul, dar la pornire cerea intotdeauna acceleratie. Altfel, vara pornea greu, iarna si mai greu (dar pornea eventual). Daca in 10 zece ani nu a picat distributia (care a fost schimbata de 2 ori in timpul asta, deci conform manualului), eu zic ca nici al tau n-o sa aiba nimic daca e ajutat cu putina motorina.

Dar, asta e exemplu personal, a nu se lua drept generalizare.


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merced,sper ca nu faci din nou curat in topic

la iarna o sa trebuiasca pedala apasata putin...pentru a porni., lucrul asta e specificat in manualele de reparatie de la vw.. din moment ce motoarele sunt same shit.
acum depinde si cum e reglat avansul, in unele cazuri mai rau ii faci cu aceleratia decat bine... nu pleca urechea la toate "sfaturile" , experimentand,o sa inveti care sunt conditiile care trebuiesc "indeplinite"
L.E la -25 nu mai porneste decat cu mix de motorina benzina,.soc,+ pedala biggrin.gif, conform manualului de utilizare

ha ha wacko.gif

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post 18 Sep 2010, 21:27
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si care ar fi proportia motorina-benzina?


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QUOTE(ct-03-tvy @ 18 Sep 2010, 22:18)
[...] mix de motorina benzina,.soclu,+ pedala biggrin.gif, conform manualului de utilizare
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Ce dracu ma, ii faci statuie de-ti trebuie soclu?


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post 18 Sep 2010, 21:48
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A mea are un soi de soc activat de temperatura apei, dar e lesne de inteles ca e decuplat pentru ca probabil nu mai merge.

Ca idee, daca vor fi -25 de grade nici nu cred ca incerc s-o pornesc, ca n-are sens. Pana una alta sper ca daca am motorina peste limita la care-mi face probleme, bujiile ok si atunci, sa porneasca si la iarna. Am observat ca timpul de actiune al bujiilor difera in functie de temperatura ambienta. In vreo doua dimineti mai racoroase saptamana trecuta s-a vazut clar diferenta.


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A mea n-avea probleme la pornirea iarna. Daca nu cumva ingheta motorina in ea, dadeam la automat putin mai mult si o lua fara griji.


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Si acel "soc termic" il aveai legat? Vine cam de pe unde-i termostatu' teoretic(pe care zic eu ca nu-l am, dar o sa trebuiasca sa-l pun neaparat), si se "agata" undeva de pompa de injectie.


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