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post 10 Jul 2019, 15:25
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Tu ce faci acum, imi repeti mie ce am scris eu?
Explica-i lu' dizzy, ca el le-a incurcat.


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post 10 Jul 2019, 17:26
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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 10 Jul 2019, 15:14)
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  I3 are gumele alea de bicicleta....
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post 11 Jul 2019, 08:32
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si o janta de I3 o fi mai ieftina?


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post 11 Jul 2019, 08:43
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post 11 Jul 2019, 09:05
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comparativ, zoe e ieftin ca braga
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post 11 Jul 2019, 09:11
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post 11 Jul 2019, 09:16
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nu mai bine o platforma pana la p^rima borna? Zic si eu...


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post 11 Jul 2019, 09:17
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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 11 Jul 2019, 10:05)
zoe e ieftin
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Apropo, ce face un Zoe (sau orice alta masina electrica) daca sta o noapte la -20°C?
Cat mai mergi dupa ce iesi din cartier?
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post 11 Jul 2019, 09:24
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daca sta in priza o gasesti calda. Si folosirea incalzeste bateria, acuma depinde cat de friguros esti, aparent scauen si volan incalzit ajuta sa dea o senzatie de confort fara sa faci 25 d egrade in masina.


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post 11 Jul 2019, 09:36
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Pai hai sa intrebam pe norvegieni, adca nici ei nu stiu de iarna...
In mod normal pierzi cateva procente din baterie, nimic spctaculos.

Mai important este sa pre-incalzesti bateria inainte de plecare dimineata.


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post 11 Jul 2019, 09:41
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Pe un alt forum sunt cativa tipi in bucuresti care conduc zilnic un e-UP!
Nu s-au plans ca nu mai ies din cartier iarna trecuta, evident au mai pierdut din range dar nimic spectaculos si iesit din comun.


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post 11 Jul 2019, 09:45
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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 11 Jul 2019, 09:16)
nu mai bine o platforma pana la p^rima borna? Zic si eu...
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mult mai complicat cu platforma


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post 11 Jul 2019, 10:00
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post 11 Jul 2019, 12:17
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Eu am intrebat altceva. Nu lasata la incarcat peste noapte, nu in garaj.
Si da, trebuie sa folosesti incalzirea, doar nu o sa circuli in suba cu manusi.


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post 11 Jul 2019, 12:23
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 11 Jul 2019, 10:17)
Apropo, ce face un Zoe (sau orice alta masina electrica) daca sta o noapte la -20°C?
Cat mai mergi dupa ce iesi din cartier?
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Consuma energie pentru a mentine bateriile la o temperatura de peste -10 °C. Daca lasi masina conectata la priza nu te afecteaza.


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post 11 Jul 2019, 12:49
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QUOTE(bonzai @ 11 Jul 2019, 10:36)
Pai hai sa intrebam pe norvegieni, adca nici ei nu stiu de iarna...
In mod normal pierzi cateva procente din baterie, nimic spctaculos.

Mai important este sa pre-incalzesti bateria inainte de plecare dimineata.
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actually, de cand cu gulfstreamul iarna nu e mai frig de -10 la ei, zapada da, dar moderat de frig. La rusi in schimb....


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post 11 Jul 2019, 13:13
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 11 Jul 2019, 12:17)
Eu am intrebat altceva. Nu lasata la incarcat peste noapte, nu in garaj.
Si da, trebuie sa folosesti incalzirea, doar nu o sa circuli in suba cu manusi.
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post 11 Jul 2019, 14:24
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Ce chimie stiti si voi... la frig capacitatea aparent scade, cu descarcarea bateria se incalzeste si capacitatea revine, frigul doar o "ascunde". Problema e consumul pe sarcina hotel, in speta incalzirea


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post 11 Jul 2019, 14:27
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QUOTE(r_vlad @ 11 Jul 2019, 13:23)
Consuma energie pentru a mentine bateriile la o temperatura de peste -10 °C. Daca lasi masina conectata la priza nu te afecteaza.
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Asa mai merge, nu cu discutii din Norvegia.

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post 11 Jul 2019, 14:39
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Marian isi ia gume all season ca anu trecut a picat iarna intr-o miercuri si voua va e frica de -20 grade desi nici unul nu sta la brasoc sau intorsura buzaului......

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post 11 Jul 2019, 14:42
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Ce treaba are scula cu prefectura?


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post 11 Jul 2019, 14:51
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Dupa cum ziceam, se pierd cativa km din autonomi, peste noapte, la temperaturi negative. Nimic spectaculos.
Daca era o problema reala cei din nord le trimitau inapoi la producatori. Au trecut cetava ieri pe la ei.


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post 11 Jul 2019, 14:52
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acum cautam cusur ca sa o sa te curentezi mai rau de la electricitatea statica....


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post 11 Jul 2019, 15:00
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QUOTE(bonzai @ 11 Jul 2019, 15:51)
Dupa cum ziceam, se pierd cativa km din autonomi, peste noapte, la temperaturi negative. Nimic spectaculos.
Daca era o problema reala cei din nord le trimitau inapoi la producatori. Au trecut cetava ieri pe la ei.
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Aia din nord isi parcheaza masina la priza. Nu stiu de ce insisti.


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acum cautam cusur ...
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post 11 Jul 2019, 15:05
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Nu insist, dar eu nu vorbeam de priza cum ai sugerat. Am am vazut masini lasate peste noapte iarna, in aer liber, fara priza, cateodata acoperite de zapada, cu rezultatul de care ziceam. Ai pus o intrebare, am raspuns. Daca este nevoie, postam dovezi.


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post 11 Jul 2019, 15:45
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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 11 Jul 2019, 15:24)
Ce chimie stiti si voi... la frig capacitatea aparent scade, cu descarcarea bateria se incalzeste si capacitatea revine, frigul doar o "ascunde". Problema e consumul pe sarcina hotel, in speta incalzirea
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Total irelevant cata chimie stie unul sau altul. Pentru a folosi masinile electrice la temperaturi scazute bateria trebuie incalzita folosing energie electrica. Daca nu esti conectat la priza pierzi din autonomie. Nu are legatura cu incalzirea habitaclului. Graficul asta cred ca e destul de clar. E luat de pe Google dar la fel se comporta celulele Panasonic, 21700 sau orice alta li-ion actuala.
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post 11 Jul 2019, 15:48
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QUOTE(bonzai @ 11 Jul 2019, 16:05)
Nu insist, dar eu nu vorbeam de priza cum ai sugerat. Am am vazut masini lasate peste noapte iarna, in aer liber, fara priza, cateodata acoperite de zapada, cu rezultatul de care ziceam.  Ai pus o intrebare, am raspuns. Daca este nevoie, postam dovezi.
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La fel cum caii putere la unii producatori sunt mai puternici, asa si la electrice ...


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post 11 Jul 2019, 17:18
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Cam cati km ati condus jucarii din astea?


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post 12 Jul 2019, 07:43
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QUOTE(Merced @ 11 Jul 2019, 18:18)
Cam cati km ati condus jucarii din astea?
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vreo 4 drumuri de titu, vreo 3 din pipera pana la romana... Sa vedem daca cu zoele nou ma duc si la mioveni cu ele;


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