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post 5 Dec 2013, 12:43
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post 5 Dec 2013, 13:14
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post 5 Dec 2013, 13:17
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asa da, pare cea mai eleganta solutie..ramane sa vad cum demontez masina mad.gif


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post 5 Dec 2013, 14:08
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cu ce vrei tu??
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post 5 Dec 2013, 14:28
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5 Dec 2013, 14:29:
QUOTE(hitman1234 @ 5 Dec 2013, 13:17)
asa da, pare cea mai eleganta solutie..ramane sa vad cum demontez masina  mad.gif
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post 5 Dec 2013, 14:42
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Intai dai jos cutia de viteze, dup-aia-i relativ simplu.


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post 5 Dec 2013, 14:53
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QUOTE(l@u @ 5 Dec 2013, 11:29)
la vw Passat B5.5 motor AVF a 6-a e  degeaba !
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post 5 Dec 2013, 15:51
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la cuplu nu e degeaba !


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post 5 Dec 2013, 15:53
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Nu intuiesc vrajitoria asta, schimb a 6-a si-mi creste cuplul.


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post 5 Dec 2013, 15:55
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Intai dai jos ambreiaju', dup-aia-i relativ simplu.
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post 5 Dec 2013, 16:11
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la vw a 6-a e  pentru cuplu nu pentru economie !
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post 5 Dec 2013, 16:18
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QUOTE(corbex @ 5 Dec 2013, 15:53)
Nu intuiesc vrajitoria asta, schimb a 6-a si-mi creste cuplul.
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post 5 Dec 2013, 16:19
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coffee_spitsk.gif e fix degeaba cum s-a mai spus

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post 5 Dec 2013, 16:21
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Cuplu casatorit?


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post 5 Dec 2013, 16:23
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bai mediocrilor e vorba de cutia in 6 vs. cea in 5 , bineinteles ca si postul meu era ca o minge la fileu ! 022.gif


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post 5 Dec 2013, 16:24
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QUOTE(l@u @ 5 Dec 2013, 10:14)
la passat acelasi motor de 131 cp, cu cutie in 5 la 150km/h ai 3000rpm in tr. 5 cu 285Nm, iar la cea in 6 la 150km/h ai tot 3000rpm. dar 310NM, aici e diferenta.
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Eu tot nu inteleg cum acelasi motor la aceeasi turatie are mai mult cuplu in varianta de cutie cu 6 trepte.


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post 5 Dec 2013, 16:29
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Are rotile mai mici.


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post 5 Dec 2013, 16:51
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daca motorul e la fel ,turatia la fel,iar cutia difera, oare de unde o fi cuplul ala in plus ???


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post 5 Dec 2013, 16:54
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QUOTE(l@u @ 5 Dec 2013, 16:51)
daca motorul e la fel ,turatia la fel,iar cutia difera


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post 5 Dec 2013, 17:24
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QUOTE(Shush @ 5 Dec 2013, 12:28)
Eu am la Leon aux d-asta din fabrica si indiferent ce cablu am folosit, ce player sau ce format audio se aude destul de prost.

Cel mai ok a fost cu niste flac-uri pe telefon printr-un cablu d-ala gros, dar tot se auzeau prost la volum mare. CD-ul e sfant biggrin.gif
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Ce unitate audio ai? Nu cumva a fost schimbata de fostul proprietar? Calitatea sunetului pe AUX si/sau CDC la schimbarea unitatilor de generatie 2 cu cele de generatie 3 e cunoscuta: http://www.my-gti.com/1328/auxiliary-input...nging-head-unit si http://www.my-gti.com/1336/cd-changer-audi...nging-head-unit

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post 5 Dec 2013, 18:03
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post 5 Dec 2013, 18:09
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Ok, din postul ala deducem ca raportul treptei a 5-a in cazul cutiei in 5, este echivalent raportul treptei a 6-a in cazul celei in 6 (asta daca nu vorbim de roti de diametre diferite).
Cum pot avea doua motoare identice ca putere cupluri diferite la aceeasi turatie (putem echivala puterea la volanta cu cea de la roata, pentru ca avem acelasi raport de transmisie in cazul ambelor), tinand cont de ecuatia P=u*n, unde P= putere, u=cuplu motor, iar n=turatie?

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post 5 Dec 2013, 18:16
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intreaba producatorul sau cauta specificatiile : awx(131 cp, 285Nm cutie 5 tr.), sau avf(131cp, 310Nm., cutie 6 tr.).


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post 5 Dec 2013, 18:17
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Nu neg, poate asa o fi, dar acele valori de cuplu n-au cum sa fie la aceeasi turatie. Altfel valorile de putere nu se potrivesc la minciuni.


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post 5 Dec 2013, 18:22
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nu uita de soft !


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post 5 Dec 2013, 18:22
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In cazul asta nu are nicio treaba cutia, diferenta e la motor. Probabil din soft motorul de la varianta in 6 trepte are cuplu maxim mai mare.
Ce ai dat tu acolo e cuplul maxim al motorului, oferit de producator. Asta nu are treaba cu ce cutie e montata pe masina.
Ce ai explicat tu acolo nu prea e posibil. Acelasi motor (nu variatii ale lui, cu oarece modificari, fie ele doar soft) are acelasi cuplu daca restul paramtrilor sunt la fel (viteza, turatie, roti, etc).


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post 5 Dec 2013, 18:23
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bine ma nu e posibil prostii aia de nemti dau specificatii gresite, fapt dovedit prin stiinta de unii useri DC !


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post 5 Dec 2013, 18:26
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QUOTE(MuciX @ 5 Dec 2013, 18:17)
[...]dar acele valori de cuplu n-au cum sa fie la aceeasi turatie. Altfel valorile de putere nu se potrivesc la minciuni.
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96 kilowatts (131 PS; 129 bhp) @ 4,000 rpm; 310 newton metres (229 lbf·ft) @ 1,900 rpm — ASZ, AVF, BLT

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post 5 Dec 2013, 18:34
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vezi si pe topicul dedicat viteza/rpm, 5vs 6, asta daca tot ai inceput sapaturile !


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post 5 Dec 2013, 18:37
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Vorbim de chestii diferite l@ule.

PS Tractorul la 150kmph are fix 3000rpm in treapta a 5-a. Cele in 6 trepte au 180kmph la 3000rpm in treapta a 6-a. Nu e relevant, dar mai dadeam un exemplu.

Pe langa asta, daca nu ma insel, discutia a inceput de la comparatia plajei de turatii in cazul unui benzinar si al unui diesel. Despre ce vorbim?

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