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post 12 Dec 2007, 20:08
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"Sunt bune,alea puse direct din fabrica".Te-ai uitat un pic,din curiozitate,cum sunt taiati electrozii la seturile astea mai noi?La 1300 foloseam sinterom si brisk,acum la nova aproape ca nici boschurile nu mai fac fata huh.gif .Totusi denso au mers un pic mai mult decat bosch.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 20:35
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Daca nu ai scantee puternica degeaba poti pune diferite bujii fiindca tot prost va functiona motorul. Eu ma gandesc sa schimb bujiile cu unele de injectie cresc un pic compresia la fiecare cilindru.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 21:04
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Ai vrut sa spui "bujii cu filet lung".Pt injectie au o rezistenta incorporata,de vre-o 5k,iar filetul e lung s-au scurt,in functie de model.

Am uitat sa spun: daca totusi pui cu filet lung,sa le desfaci macar o data la 2500km ca altfel o sa le scoti cu tot cu filet.

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post 12 Dec 2007, 21:36
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Poate vrei sa spui ca trebuie eliminat filetul prin strunjire(sau pilire...) pe portiunea care e in plus(se ia model o bujie normala).


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post 12 Dec 2007, 21:36
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Dar tu nu ai vazut cu posturi mai sus ca acel filet se ia la polizor in asa fel sa ramna cat e filetul de la o bujie normala wink.gif fiindca e normal cu filet lung sa se depuna calmina si sa nu mai poti scoate bujiile dupa aceea din chiuloasa.


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post 14 Dec 2007, 12:10
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densow20fpu isi merita banii.recomand la toata lumea;)


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post 14 Dec 2007, 16:31
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La ce temperatura lucreaza aceste bujii ?. Rezista la cdi facut de mine ?

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post 14 Dec 2007, 17:28
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QUOTE(djasu82 @ 12 Dec 2007, 20:35)
Eu ma gandesc sa schimb bujiile cu unele de injectie cresc un pic compresia la fiecare cilindru.
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Serios? dry.gif

QUOTE(ydaniel @ 14 Dec 2007, 12:10)
densow20fpu isi merita banii.recomand la toata lumea;)
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Daaa..cel mai mai mare "avantaj" la ele e ca scapa compresie pe langa izolator, rateaza scantei , se uda , si merge motorul tot intrerupt, testat cu Sinterom imediat dupa merge perfect. Din punctul meu de vedere Denso-urile au fost o mare teapa, nu recomand la nimeni.


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post 14 Dec 2007, 18:41
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Argon eu am champion L87Y si sunt multumit cum lucreaza . Aseara le-am pus eletrodzii la fiecare bujie la distanta de 1.1mm.

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post 14 Dec 2007, 18:53
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Si eu folosesc tot Denso w20fpu cam de 1 an si sunt foarte multumit, merge mai bine motorul decat cu Sinterom sau Brisk-astea am folosit inainte...


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post 15 Dec 2007, 00:39
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Dupa cum spuneam, fiecare Dacie cu marca ei preferata.


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post 15 Dec 2007, 09:50
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Merced nu e adevarat fiecare dacie cu reglajele ei wink.gif .Eu am das masina in service cu 2 bujii breisk si 2 sinteroame , multi spuneau nu lucreaza bine etc . Eu spun ca practic se simpatizeaza cu motorul perfect.


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post 15 Dec 2007, 23:05
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bai,nea argoane da ciudat mai esti bre!in urma cu ceva timp ziceai ca denso sunt bune,acu ca nu sunt.ziceai ca nu iti vei monta aprindere electronica.... ce o mai dai in diverse;) undeva scriai ca pui lubrifin dupa un timp ca e ulei prost si tot asa.acu nu te supara pe mine:)biggrin.gif


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post 16 Dec 2007, 05:38
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ydaniel, care e problema ta? Daca spune omul ca ii scapa compresie pe la o bujie Denso eu il cred. Pana sa apara aceasta problema erau bune. Si referitor la aprindere, care e problema daca si-a luat aprindere gotronic? Mai baiete, se mai schimba ideile omului si in functie de evolutia tehnicii!
Mai bine ai raspunde unde se gasesc fiste tesla, ca pretul vad ca il sti, cumva la Depozit , sau in alta parte?

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post 16 Dec 2007, 08:40
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Fise tesla se gasesc pe pantelimon la magazinele dacia cele mai vechi biggrin.gif sau daca nu incercati in vitan . Eu am loat si au rezistenta pe fiecare fise de 4 k. Argon e un pic mai incapatanat nu crede pana cand nu vede asa sunt si eu si alti biggrin.gif. Dar hai sa nu ne mai criticam ca nu mai facem nimic dupa aceea.


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post 16 Dec 2007, 12:07
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Bujiile Denso au fost bune! cam 5000 km. Parerea mea este ca ar trebui sa tina mai mult de atat.


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post 16 Dec 2007, 12:19
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Iar se discuta balarii. In motorul romanesc de Dacie producatorul spune ca se inlocuiesc la fiecare 10 k ? Iar despre o bujie Denso nu pot sa cred asa ceva.


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post 16 Dec 2007, 12:23
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Poate nu a inteles toata lumea, am avut bujii Denso cam 5000 km, sa zicem 4000 sigur, si au mers OK, de la o vreme au inceput sa se afume, si la 2 dintre ele, la imbinarea dintre izolator si metal a aparut o scurgere uleioasa asemanatoare calaminei. Inainte de astea am avut si Brisk si Sinterom, si NGK, si nu am avut asemenea problema, de asemenea bujiile actuale, Bosch, merg ca in prima zi de mai bine de 13-15000 km, nu mai stiu sigur.


EDIT: ydaniel, referotor la Lubrifin, am zis ca era bun, aveau un sortiment Vector, semisintetic, prin 2004 care era certificat Mercedes Benz, dupa s-au prostit de-abinelea. Nu vad legatura cu subiectul. Iar referitor la aprinderea electronica, nici nu-mi puneam, dar am primit una acum cativa ani, si de atunci nu cred ca am mai schimbat platina, deci m-am inselat la inceput, recunosc, aprinderea electronica e buna.

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post 16 Dec 2007, 15:47
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eu am folosit un timp dastea dar am renuntat ca sunt scumpe in draci http://chinanst.en.alibaba.com/product/501...Spark_Plug.html

bobina Bosch cu aprindere electronica STI-Multyspark


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post 16 Dec 2007, 16:29
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Bujiile acelea nu sunt pentru motoare pe injectie ? se potrivesc la filet par prea subtiri biggrin.gif Bobina da e foarte bun am probat si cdi meu pe ea da scantee wacko.gif


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post 16 Dec 2007, 16:38
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gasisem in vitan multyspark care a fost la fel la filet mergea bine dar lea schimbat taicamiu ca la mancat in cur ca cica alea nu sunt bujii si mia bagat tampenii romanesti mad.gif de bobina sunt multumit merge perfect cu arpinderea mea care recent a primit apa in carcasa cand sa spalat motorul icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 16 Dec 2007, 17:20
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Pai bobina bosche + bujiile cu 3 eletrozi bosche se pupa perfect . Cred ca imi iau si eu cel putin bujiile cu 3 eletrozi ce scantee voi avea pe 3 eletrozi de la cdi wub.gif .


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post 16 Dec 2007, 18:05
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nu numai la cdi la mine rupea pornirea pe frig asta iarna, la cdi esti boier icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 16 Dec 2007, 18:53
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Alea cu mai multi electrozi nu au decat un singur avantaj, tin mai mult. Nu o sa porneasca mai bine si nu da mai multe scantei odata. O scanteie va fii intotdeauna intre central si un singur electrod de masa, asta in mod normal, cu CDI nu stiu.


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post 16 Dec 2007, 20:35
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Cu CDi multi scantee fiindca v-a da o ploaie de scanteii la toti eletrozi .


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caut si eu o fisa de la distribuitor la bobina siliconata BOSCH ca am facut o prostie la fisa mea sad.gif


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post 16 Dec 2007, 20:52
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Eu in locul vostru as pune fise tip multifilara de la bobina la distributie. Findca se peierde deja 1-2kv pe fise, dupa aceea pe rotor la distributie iar 1kv.


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post 16 Dec 2007, 23:09
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@argon lubrifin vector a aparut in 2000.si da pt nenea Mircea se gasesc fisele la depozit.


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post 17 Dec 2007, 17:30
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Merci de raspuns!


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poate ajuta pe cineva:

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