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CriSTI68
post 9 Jun 2008, 14:42
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post 9 Jun 2008, 15:16
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Ma mir asa a vandut si amicul meu masina cu aprindere si senzor zice nu ai nevoie la dacia din 99 mai noua cica "nu dal naiba ca mere si fara" am ramas masca . Nici ca-l mai deranjez pe Gelu sa-mi dea un alt senzor si eu sa ma chinui la posta si sa-l montez dupa aceea biggrin.gif ce oameni .

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post 9 Jun 2008, 18:00
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sa fac ceva pe aprinderea cu senzor.... ma mancat in cur sa scot fisa de la bobina si cred ca 380 este tensiune mica fata de socul care la avut bobina wacko.gif


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post 9 Jun 2008, 18:13
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ce daca ai scos fisa de la bobina?
sau ai stricat senzoru?


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post 9 Jun 2008, 18:21
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fa si tu la fel ca mine... porneste motorul tine-l la 1000 si scoate fisa de la bobina icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 9 Jun 2008, 18:30
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ce se intampla? eu am legat fisele sa nu atinga senzoru...
dar am facut asa cu alta aprindere.......si mi-a tras o scantee de m-am linistit, daca asta ai patit si tu


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post 9 Jun 2008, 18:32
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Nu-s 380, ci doar 15000 de volti p-acolosha.

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post 9 Jun 2008, 19:02
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post 9 Jun 2008, 19:13
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cristi lasa ca mere si pe platina radmasa.gif .

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post 9 Jun 2008, 19:19
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nu am ars nimc..doar am vazut ditamai arcul...urmatorul l-a dat pe deget, nu pe capacul delco......si mai zici sa pun cdi..asta imi lipseste


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post 9 Jun 2008, 20:01
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Eu m-am eletrocutat de atatea ori si la 45kv si la 480 v la frecventa de 30khz si tot sunt in viata. Cel mai frumos a fost pornirea motorului fara prima fise la cilindru nr.1 arunca un traznet alb intre plotu nr.1 si carcasa delcoului si tot mere senzorul gotronic. Cdi a ajuns la 15000 de km parcursi si cu senzorul gotronic concluziile le trageti voi.


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post 10 Jun 2008, 01:23
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Eu m-am eletrocutat de atatea ori si la 45kv si la 480 v la frecventa de 30khz si tot sunt in viata. Cel mai frumos a fost pornirea motorului fara prima fise la cilindru nr.1 arunca un traznet alb intre plotu nr.1 si carcasa delcoului si tot mere senzorul gotronic. Cdi a ajuns la 15000 de km parcursi si cu senzorul gotronic concluziile le trageti voi.
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Poate ca spun prostii dar, aprinderea cdi nu este cumva pt moto si scutere?


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post 10 Jun 2008, 07:12
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Aprinderea CDI este Capacitive Discharge Ignition system. Deci e un tip de aprindere pentru motoare termice. Daca cel care a inventat acest tip de aprindere l-a conceput pentru masini, stia el de ce. Apoi s-au facut modificari si pentru scutere si motociclete.

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post 10 Jun 2008, 07:58
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QUOTE(djasu82 @ 9 Jun 2008, 21:01)
Eu m-am eletrocutat de atatea ori si la 45kv si la 480 v la frecventa de 30khz
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post 10 Jun 2008, 08:37
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QUOTE(argon @ 10 Jun 2008, 07:58)
acum se explica unele chestii 04.gif
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Oaiiiii ,ce apropo !! coffee_spitsk.gif


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post 10 Jun 2008, 12:20
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incredibil, culoarea bujiilor fara pic de negru pe electrozi blink.gif


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post 10 Jun 2008, 13:17
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QUOTE(CriSTI68 @ 10 Jun 2008, 12:20)
incredibil, culoarea bujiilor fara pic de negru pe electrozi  blink.gif
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Si de ce te miri ?? blink.gif

Rezulta un reglaj bun al carburatiei si al aprinderii , sa fi multumit ca altii se roaga sa le scoata "in halul "asta laugh.gif


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post 10 Jun 2008, 13:23
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Ce se explica argon ? a da ca rezist la tensiuni...


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post 10 Jun 2008, 14:59
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nu cred ca la asta se referea...... radmasa.gif
cica consum de 7,5%-8% cu dacii cu 4 vit, la 80-90 km/h este un consum normal(cu 1 pers). deci eu care am scos 7% cu 110-120 sa fiu super multumit. aprinderea este montata de aprox 1000 km...nu am mai umblat la delco deloc!(doar sa scot capacul sa ma dau mare cu senzorul ) smile.gif

trage bine masina acum. inainte de drumul cta-craiova o sa ii scot bujiile sa le verific si sa curat filetul chiuloasei, dar cred ca se prezinta bine. sinteroamele 14np21 erau caramizii pe electron, in rest innegrite, dar se explica, ca nu sunt pt motoru meu


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post 10 Jun 2008, 18:10
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Am 3 bobine, cu urmatoarele valori:


Bobina1- primar 4,5 ohm, secundar 6,5 kohm
Bobina2- primar 3,8 ohm, secundar 6,34 kohm
Bobina3- prima 2 ohm, secundar 9,7 kohm


Care e mai buna, si care sunt valorile stas, ca nu le gasesc acum..


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post 10 Jun 2008, 18:35
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varianta 2. Dar STAS ar putea fi toate depinde de la ce masini au fost luate. (chiar daca arata la fel, probabil) sleep.gif


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post 10 Jun 2008, 18:38
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toate de Dacie(cred), in folosinta proprie in decurs de multi ani. Arata cam asa, cealalta e pe masina(varianta 1) . De ce prima si ultima nu sunt bune?

bobina 3 cred ca e 3124, doiu e 3121, ce inseamna aceasta denumire? (3124, 3121) Am inteles ca 3121 e de Dacie, 3124 de ce e?

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post 10 Jun 2008, 18:59
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http://www.iame.ro/ aici gasesti diferentele!!! smile.gif

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post 10 Jun 2008, 19:00
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aia am vazut, dar nu ma incalzeste cu nimic...3121 e de Dacie presupun, dar cealalta?


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post 10 Jun 2008, 19:08
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Probabil Oltcit fara rezistenta aditionala. Dar mai poate fi si ptr. Dacie, IMS, ARO , Camioane.... dar ii lipseste rezistenta aditionala. Am avut si eu una dar demult si nu mai stiu de unde am "capatat-o.! sad.gif


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are si rezistenta, dar am dat-o jos..


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post 10 Jun 2008, 19:21
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post 10 Jun 2008, 19:41
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asadar..merge la Dacie pe Gotronic cu senzor, sau fara, bobina 3124? cu sau fara rezistenta aditionala?


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Nu se recomanda ca nu are tranzistorul final din aprindere radiator biggrin.gif , dar se poate face o misca inventie se adapteaza o rezistenta aditononala si un releul care sa o sunteze candpornesti motorul . Releul v-a primi impuls doar atata timp cat eactionat eletromotorul deci se ia un plus de startar . Astaajuta la pornire fiindca scanteea e foarte puternica in rest dupa ce s-a pornit cheiea trece in pozitie motor si rezistenta aditionala nu mai e suntata de releu fiindca s-a decuplat .


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